All available color combinations do work well together. It's the setting–the fact that they're on a phone–that makes them situationally good or bad*. But I believe that some of them are Apple giving a slap in the face to Windows 8's atrocious colors. "See, it's not the colors that make your OS sell poorly, it's your OS!"
*I'm trying to remember where I've seen these colors together in a beautiful way… I'll think of it.
My question, if you watched the video...Mr. Ive took an awful lot of time and smugness to describe how wonderful this new chassis design is...how great is feels in your hand, how durable and high quality it is....blah, blah, blah. Oh, yeah, he's hide all that with these fugly looking cases. Not to mention they missed that the back whole partially cover the "iPhone" moniker and the testing labels. Bad design detail. why didn't they just hide a couple hole so we didn't see the "...hon." peeking through the holes??? Not to mention that the silicone back will make it about 1" into your pocket before getting stuck...and the holes will capture just about every scrap on lint in your pocket, and get trapped between the case and the chassis.
My question, if you watched the video...Mr. Ive took an awful lot of time and smugness to describe how wonderful this new chassis design is...how great is feels in your hand, how durable and high quality it is....blah, blah, blah.
Jonathan Ive has ALWAYS been against cases. Always. He won't ever use them, and I'm sure he protests their creation at every meeting when it comes time to design a new one. More of a running gag by now than anything.
That doesn't mean Apple can't and shouldn't design the best case they can.
Not to mention they missed that the back whole partially cover the "iPhone" moniker and the testing labels. Bad design detail. why didn't they just hide a couple hole so we didn't see the "...hon." peeking through the holes???
I agree wholeheartedly on this. Otherwise I think the cases are neat.
Not to mention that the silicone back will make it about 1" into your pocket before getting stuck...
Well, that's obviously not right; they wouldn't make them otherwise.
…and the holes will capture just about every scrap on lint in your pocket…
See, that I wonder about. Doubt it can get between, though; it's a snug fit.
It's too much money to produce the 5 and the 5s those aluminum chassis are expensive. Hence 5c. I agree with the case it looks cool but functionality seems to be at a 0. And 550 is way too much for a plastic phone. They should have done 450 and dumped the 5 and 4s.
Glad they kept the 4s. That means that it will be supported in some sort of way for at least another year. If I'm lucky maybe even two. Or more, who knows? Look at the 3GS. My only problem with upgrading would be the screen size. I like to handle my phone with one hand, and I don't see my self doing that with the newer iPhones. But that's just me. So come to think of it, maybe I'll never upgrade, unless in the future Apple makes a "retro" iPhone maybe lol. iPhone 4S, the last true iPhone, with iOS 5 that is.....
Jonathan Ive has ALWAYS been against cases. Always. He won't ever use them, and I'm sure he protests their creation at every meeting when it comes time to design a new one. More of a running gag by now than anything.
That doesn't mean Apple can't and shouldn't design the best case they can.
I agree wholeheartedly on this. Otherwise I think the cases are neat.
Well, that's obviously not right; they wouldn't make them otherwise.
See, that I wonder about. Doubt it can get between, though; it's a snug fit.
have a really great, snug fitting speck case (pixel case) and i periodically have to clean my iP4 because of all the dust and what nots that get trapped. And the only holes are around the camera, dock connector and mute switch. Otherwise it's pretty seamless. So to me these apple cases are going to be vacuum cleaners for dust/dirt. I also have a silicon case (and a speck rubber) for my iPod classic and both are so freakin grippy, once I actually get it in my pocket (size and material doesn't matter), its really annoyingly tough to get out. Hence, I don't use cases unless they are smooth and as non-grippy as possible. That speck pixel case is by far the best case I've owned. Now I don't like using cases, but the iPhone 4 changed that opinion and the iPhone 5s prolly won't change that opinion.
Well that was a massively underwhelming Apple event. I think we all need to temper our expectations and remember that Apple is an incredibly patient company that is perfectly willing to make people wait 16 months for an overdue update.
I'm sure they want to standardize on the Lightning connector and 4" display, but ultimately it's about dollars and cents. Shoving the 4S guts into the 5C body (what I predicted the 5C would be) must have a higher cost than continuing production of the 4S unchanged. Therefore Apple is willing to wait until 2014 to finally put the 30-pin connector out to pasture.
They're also in no rush to change a pricing model that yields greater than 1000% margins on flash memory. A quick look at SD card pricing shows a $10 difference between 16GB and 32GB yet Apple has conditioned its sheeple to pay $100.
At this point my expectations for the upcoming iPad and Mac events are about as low as they could possibly be.
Huh? 64-bit A7 and the M7! When Cook said the A7 was a desktop class CPU, with new class of instruction sets, it should have given you a hint of where the iPad devices are going. Giving away iWork is also a hint where Apple will be taking iPads and other devices. Cook called the iPhone 5S "forward looking". Overall, the architecture changes are a big deal. As developers take advantage of new iOS 7 features based on this new architecture, expect to see big changes. The question will be with their Mac line ups.
I have a really great, snug fitting speck case (pixel case) and i periodically have to clean my iP4 because of all the dust and what nots that get trapped. And the only holes are around the camera, dock connector and mute switch. Otherwise it's pretty seamless. So to me these apple cases are going to be vacuum cleaners for dust/dirt.
Hmm… Is it just one material all the way through, or does it have a microfiber liner on the inside?
I also have a silicon case (and a speck rubber) for my iPod classic and both are so freakin grippy, once I actually get it in my pocket (size and material doesn't matter), its really annoyingly tough to get out.
I see where you're coming from here, and I'd try it out myself, but the only silicone products I have are two oven mitts and two cooling stones, so I'd need ghetto pants to see if that works. " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
I just inherently trust Apple not to make a case that dirties the device and sticks to your pants. Their whole existence is about experience, after all. And while it's probably more secure to have a phone you can't get out of your pocket in the first place, it's not as good an experience.
Well that was a massively underwhelming Apple event. I think we all need to temper our expectations and remember that Apple is an incredibly patient company that is perfectly willing to make people wait 16 months for an overdue update.
I'm sure they want to standardize on the Lightning connector and 4" display, but ultimately it's about dollars and cents. Shoving the 4S guts into the 5C body (what I predicted the 5C would be) must have a higher cost than continuing production of the 4S unchanged. Therefore Apple is willing to wait until 2014 to finally put the 30-pin connector out to pasture.
They're also in no rush to change a pricing model that yields greater than 1000% margins on flash memory. A quick look at SD card pricing shows a $10 difference between 16GB and 32GB yet Apple has conditioned its sheeple to pay $100.
At this point my expectations for the upcoming iPad and Mac events are about as low as they could possibly be.
1. What overdue update? iPhones sell strong year round and get refreshed year round. Nothing overdue about any of it.
2. No, what they realized is that they would lose money if the style and function of the 5C were available at 8 GB for $450, because it would undoubtedly cannibalize sales of the 16 GB $550 tier. They want a $0/$450 offering...but one that is far less attractive than a 16 GB 5C. The 30-pin connector is all but gone. Keeping it 1 more year on just the 4S (and iPod classic & shuffle) is a negligible move. Moral of the story: 85% or more of all iPhone sales in 2013-2014 will be with lightning.
3. Its about conditioning. Its about this is what we offer and this is what it costs. Don't want it? Don't buy it. Have you seen how profitable iPhones are for Apple? Those $100 premiums for double storage are key. Don't like it? Don't buy it. But, have fun trying to convince yourself when buying a 16 GB iPhone for $650 (or $199) that it isn't "worth it" to simply pony up another $100 for double the storage capacity. And another hundred still for quadruple.
4. Redesigned iPad 5 with mini-like body & A7X 64-bit chip are low expectations? Wow, can't imagine what you think its appropriate at this stage, given your advanced knowledge of engineering.
The 4S is horribly outdated, it won't even get the full features of iOS 7 for cook's sake.
It doesn't feel right having an outdated model stay, while the more current phone is left in the dust.
I know the 5C is basically the 5, but it's prices as a "low-cost" iPhone? Yeah right.
I will let tell you that you got it not right.
The 4S was still selling for $99/$550 yesterday at a 16 GB capacity. Still selling well in many channels.
There is now a reduced price model, offered at $0/$450 in 8 GB capacity. This is bottom tier, that replaces the iPhone 4 (also still selling yesterday).
The iPhone 5C replaces the iPhone 5 in this year's role. The 5 would have continued at $99/$550. Instead, the 5C is inserted here, equal to the 5 is every way, and improved in handful of others. Also, major brand new design and color scheme. Overall, MUCH better than if the 5 had followed the usual pattern.
The iPhone 5S is the new flagship iPhone. As for "S" upgrades, it is the most substantial yet. Because of the way technology is moving at Apple, this year brings some major improvements. The A7 64-bit chip is no joke, and puts them lightyears ahead of the competition, once again. The new camera system is really outstanding, as the innovations baked into it directly effect the every-day use of the camera. If you don't value improvements to sharpness in action shots or dramatically improved low light shots, you simply don't use an iPhone camera. And the Touch ID is just brilliant and perfectly executed. When I first heard this, I imagined its implementation down to the detail, and Apple has designed exactly what I thought of, because it is without a doubt a flawless and logical execution. Home button, touch & unlock, even down to the setup and configuration. They thought of everything and left nothing for round 2. Obviously in the future, this could potentially be expanded to payment systems outside of the Apple Store, but why do that day 1? Lets have some time to let millions of users field test with just the Apple store, and make sure this is as safe and secure as we think it is.
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All available color combinations do work well together. It's the setting–the fact that they're on a phone–that makes them situationally good or bad*. But I believe that some of them are Apple giving a slap in the face to Windows 8's atrocious colors. "See, it's not the colors that make your OS sell poorly, it's your OS!"
*I'm trying to remember where I've seen these colors together in a beautiful way… I'll think of it.
My question, if you watched the video...Mr. Ive took an awful lot of time and smugness to describe how wonderful this new chassis design is...how great is feels in your hand, how durable and high quality it is....blah, blah, blah. Oh, yeah, he's hide all that with these fugly looking cases. Not to mention they missed that the back whole partially cover the "iPhone" moniker and the testing labels. Bad design detail. why didn't they just hide a couple hole so we didn't see the "...hon." peeking through the holes??? Not to mention that the silicone back will make it about 1" into your pocket before getting stuck...and the holes will capture just about every scrap on lint in your pocket, and get trapped between the case and the chassis.
Just bad, bad, bad.
My question, if you watched the video...Mr. Ive took an awful lot of time and smugness to describe how wonderful this new chassis design is...how great is feels in your hand, how durable and high quality it is....blah, blah, blah.
Jonathan Ive has ALWAYS been against cases. Always. He won't ever use them, and I'm sure he protests their creation at every meeting when it comes time to design a new one. More of a running gag by now than anything.
That doesn't mean Apple can't and shouldn't design the best case they can.
Not to mention they missed that the back whole partially cover the "iPhone" moniker and the testing labels. Bad design detail. why didn't they just hide a couple hole so we didn't see the "...hon." peeking through the holes???
I agree wholeheartedly on this. Otherwise I think the cases are neat.
Well, that's obviously not right; they wouldn't make them otherwise.
See, that I wonder about. Doubt it can get between, though; it's a snug fit.
It's too much money to produce the 5 and the 5s those aluminum chassis are expensive. Hence 5c. I agree with the case it looks cool but functionality seems to be at a 0. And 550 is way too much for a plastic phone. They should have done 450 and dumped the 5 and 4s.
So, let tell me if I got this right.
Apple keeps the 4S, however only 8GB.
Apple drops the 5, leaving for worse specs?
The 4S is horribly outdated, it won't even get the full features of iOS 7 for cook's sake.
It doesn't feel right having an outdated model stay, while the more current phone is left in the dust.
I know the 5C is basically the 5, but it's prices as a "low-cost" iPhone? Yeah right.
Well that was a massively underwhelming Apple event. I think we all need to temper our expectations and remember that Apple is an incredibly patient company that is perfectly willing to make people wait 16 months for an overdue update.
I'm sure they want to standardize on the Lightning connector and 4" display, but ultimately it's about dollars and cents. Shoving the 4S guts into the 5C body (what I predicted the 5C would be) must have a higher cost than continuing production of the 4S unchanged. Therefore Apple is willing to wait until 2014 to finally put the 30-pin connector out to pasture.
They're also in no rush to change a pricing model that yields greater than 1000% margins on flash memory. A quick look at SD card pricing shows a $10 difference between 16GB and 32GB yet Apple has conditioned its sheeple to pay $100.
At this point my expectations for the upcoming iPad and Mac events are about as low as they could possibly be.
Huh? 64-bit A7 and the M7! When Cook said the A7 was a desktop class CPU, with new class of instruction sets, it should have given you a hint of where the iPad devices are going. Giving away iWork is also a hint where Apple will be taking iPads and other devices. Cook called the iPhone 5S "forward looking". Overall, the architecture changes are a big deal. As developers take advantage of new iOS 7 features based on this new architecture, expect to see big changes. The question will be with their Mac line ups.
Hmm… Is it just one material all the way through, or does it have a microfiber liner on the inside?
I see where you're coming from here, and I'd try it out myself, but the only silicone products I have are two oven mitts and two cooling stones, so I'd need ghetto pants to see if that works.
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I just inherently trust Apple not to make a case that dirties the device and sticks to your pants. Their whole existence is about experience, after all. And while it's probably more secure to have a phone you can't get out of your pocket in the first place, it's not as good an experience.
Yeah. So what's the point of the plastic?
What's the problem with it? Nothing.
Pros: Lightweight, Durable, Scratch resistent, cheaper and faster to manufacturer.
Cons: ........
Well that was a massively underwhelming Apple event. I think we all need to temper our expectations and remember that Apple is an incredibly patient company that is perfectly willing to make people wait 16 months for an overdue update.
I'm sure they want to standardize on the Lightning connector and 4" display, but ultimately it's about dollars and cents. Shoving the 4S guts into the 5C body (what I predicted the 5C would be) must have a higher cost than continuing production of the 4S unchanged. Therefore Apple is willing to wait until 2014 to finally put the 30-pin connector out to pasture.
They're also in no rush to change a pricing model that yields greater than 1000% margins on flash memory. A quick look at SD card pricing shows a $10 difference between 16GB and 32GB yet Apple has conditioned its sheeple to pay $100.
At this point my expectations for the upcoming iPad and Mac events are about as low as they could possibly be.
1. What overdue update? iPhones sell strong year round and get refreshed year round. Nothing overdue about any of it.
2. No, what they realized is that they would lose money if the style and function of the 5C were available at 8 GB for $450, because it would undoubtedly cannibalize sales of the 16 GB $550 tier. They want a $0/$450 offering...but one that is far less attractive than a 16 GB 5C. The 30-pin connector is all but gone. Keeping it 1 more year on just the 4S (and iPod classic & shuffle) is a negligible move. Moral of the story: 85% or more of all iPhone sales in 2013-2014 will be with lightning.
3. Its about conditioning. Its about this is what we offer and this is what it costs. Don't want it? Don't buy it. Have you seen how profitable iPhones are for Apple? Those $100 premiums for double storage are key. Don't like it? Don't buy it. But, have fun trying to convince yourself when buying a 16 GB iPhone for $650 (or $199) that it isn't "worth it" to simply pony up another $100 for double the storage capacity. And another hundred still for quadruple.
4. Redesigned iPad 5 with mini-like body & A7X 64-bit chip are low expectations? Wow, can't imagine what you think its appropriate at this stage, given your advanced knowledge of engineering.
So, let tell me if I got this right.
Apple keeps the 4S, however only 8GB.
Apple drops the 5, leaving for worse specs?
The 4S is horribly outdated, it won't even get the full features of iOS 7 for cook's sake.
It doesn't feel right having an outdated model stay, while the more current phone is left in the dust.
I know the 5C is basically the 5, but it's prices as a "low-cost" iPhone? Yeah right.
I will let tell you that you got it not right.
The 4S was still selling for $99/$550 yesterday at a 16 GB capacity. Still selling well in many channels.
There is now a reduced price model, offered at $0/$450 in 8 GB capacity. This is bottom tier, that replaces the iPhone 4 (also still selling yesterday).
The iPhone 5C replaces the iPhone 5 in this year's role. The 5 would have continued at $99/$550. Instead, the 5C is inserted here, equal to the 5 is every way, and improved in handful of others. Also, major brand new design and color scheme. Overall, MUCH better than if the 5 had followed the usual pattern.
The iPhone 5S is the new flagship iPhone. As for "S" upgrades, it is the most substantial yet. Because of the way technology is moving at Apple, this year brings some major improvements. The A7 64-bit chip is no joke, and puts them lightyears ahead of the competition, once again. The new camera system is really outstanding, as the innovations baked into it directly effect the every-day use of the camera. If you don't value improvements to sharpness in action shots or dramatically improved low light shots, you simply don't use an iPhone camera. And the Touch ID is just brilliant and perfectly executed. When I first heard this, I imagined its implementation down to the detail, and Apple has designed exactly what I thought of, because it is without a doubt a flawless and logical execution. Home button, touch & unlock, even down to the setup and configuration. They thought of everything and left nothing for round 2. Obviously in the future, this could potentially be expanded to payment systems outside of the Apple Store, but why do that day 1? Lets have some time to let millions of users field test with just the Apple store, and make sure this is as safe and secure as we think it is.
Nobody cares about "on contract" price anymore, even the US is moving to separate phone/contract models slowly.
But given the dreadful price of the 5C, it's good they kept the 4S.
Everyone does, the 5C price is exactly what it should be, not a penny more or less. Don't like it? Don't buy one.
Approx. 40 million people will disagree with you in the next 6 months.
Which is about the same sales as last year dropping iOS on phones to < 10%.
Sounds like a failure.