If 264 ppi is retina, than doesn't it mean 326 ppi is overkill because the human eye can't distinguish? I still get the merits of having a consistent resolution.
Depends on the "average viewing distance." You most likely hold a Mini closer than you do an Air.
I'm still on the fence whether to go with the iPad mini with Retina or iPad air. I currently have an iPad 2, love it and the screen real-estate but the allure of the smaller form of the mini is calling to me. I have to wait till the cellular comes out, so still time to make a decision.
The mini is easier to type on than the air in portrait mode. The iPads are really slow compared to a keyboard or even iPhone. So if you type a lot- a keyboard is almost a necessity.
I have both the air and original mini (new mini coming in tomorrow). Can't go wrong either way.
I can type really fast on the iPad mini in portrait mode. I wouldn't bother using a keyboard with it. I'm much slower on the full sized keyboard and would probably consider using a keyboard if I was going to be doing a lot of typing with it. So far, I have never felt the desire to.
On a side note, I'm really looking forward to the iPad mini with Retina. I loved the old mini, and I'm really glad Apple didn't make the new mini a lesser iPad than the Air.
Great choice! What with the same pixel total as the iPad Air I figure that's the way to go. And that's the total I went for with my Air choice…. take full advantage of all those display pixels….
On a related note: is there a setting for how photo's are loaded into the pads like with music? I shoot some rather large files off my Nikon D800 and it would be fun to have all 32 mega-pixels to play with on my pad.
I know iPhoto app will support 20(I think) of those pixels, I don't think you can get the 32 on there, maybe 30 if lucky.
I'll be interested in seeing how the CPU and GPU stack up to the Air in clock speed and throttling, the 5S throttled back to 1GHz in just two minutes while the Air did better.
Also the Mini has a more washed out screen than the 3/4/Air
Has anyone come across a similar comparison photo between the Air's screen density and the Retina Mini yet? I tried holding my 5S against the Air in the Apple store, but it didn't sit with me as a comparable test.
. . . Also the Mini has a more washed out screen than the 3/4/Air . . .
No it doesn't. A bunch of dishonest little blowhard chihuahuas on MacRumors and The Verge are trying to spread the idea that the colors are washed out, but they are not washed out on mine.
But go ahead and join in the yapping if you feel you need to.
So the AP published a review of the mini. In the first paragraph they say only Apple could get away with a price increase. Hmmm...I could have sworn the 2nd gen Nexus 7 also went up in price. Am I wrong about that? Anyway the conclusion of their review is if you don't need the very best get a Nexus 7 or Kindle Fire, but if you can afford the retina mini go for it.
Apple is the only one who can get away with it because people will still buy the mini. Nexus won't get away with it because nobody wants one of those " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
If 264 ppi is retina, than doesn't it mean 326 ppi is overkill because the human eye can't distinguish? I still get the merits of having a consistent resolution.
If you're interested in stereo photography, and I don't know why everyone isn't, the 326 ppi screen is a necessity. When you use a stereoscope over a pair of images, the lenses magnify perhaps 1.5 times. The normal iPad retina screen is too coarse, and you see the pixels to the point of distraction. With the mini you still don't see the pixels under magnification.
There might be other reasons for using a lens over a screen as well. For a look at modern interest in stereo photography, check out Brian May's website. (Yes, the guitarist for Queen.):
No it doesn't. A bunch of dishonest little blowhard chihuahuas on MacRumors and The Verge are trying to spread the idea that the colors are washed out, but they are not washed out on mine.
But go ahead and join in the yapping if you feel you need to.
Richard Devine from imore.com says he doesn't have this issue. His screen is sharp, bright and vibrant. And from the picture below the mini and Air screens look the same to me. The few reviews that I have seen, from Jim Darylmple, AP, Macworld and cnet don't mention anything about the screen looking "washed out". Could be that some people got a mini with a bad display. But the forum on MacRumors is ridiculous. Some people there won't stop until they find a flaw. They're not enjoying their device because they're spending all their time trying to find something wrong with it. :rolleyes:
Replaces an iPad2 which tumbled off my side table, cracking the screen. But, it still works! I cannot remove the Moshi screen protectors, however, without shards of glass falling into my lap.
So, the iPad2 will become parked next to the bedroom TV, and I can still use it to stream videos, HBOgo, etc.
But the long awaited R mini is my path to the future. I will likely add a MBA as my main computer for projects, connecting it to a large screen in my office, but also giving me complete computing mobility in a small sized backback...iPhone, iPad mini and laptop Air...
Richard Devine from imore.com says he doesn't have this issue. His screen is sharp, bright and vibrant. And from the picture below the mini and Air screens look the same to me. The few reviews that I have seen, from Jim Darylmple, AP, Macworld and cnet don't mention anything about the screen looking "washed out". Could be that some people got a mini with a bad display. But the forum on MacRumors is ridiculous. Some people there won't stop until they find a flaw. They're not enjoying their device because they're spending all their time trying to find something wrong with it. :rolleyes:
Exactly, thanks. Actually that comparison picture makes the mini screen look a little more saturated.
The point is that once you get it home and start using it it, the screen looks great. If you want to set it next to an Air and obsess over it to find something wrong, that's perverse. MacRumors is a den of gibbering technopervs.
High trade in value? I sold my mini on fee bay and after all their fees netted $215. Bah
Which model did you have, what was the actual condition, and did you have all the accessories, including the box? If you had a 16GB model, you did well considering the current 16GB model is now $299.
Most of the comments I read about the Retina iPad Mini on other sites is how someone can get a Nexus 7 or Kindle Fire for half the price that's just as good. WTF?!! I'm pretty certain that most consumers must feel this way but certainly not everyone. The day I look at a Porsche Boxster and say to myself I can get a Toyota Matrix for one-third the price that's just as good, I'm thinking of shooting myself. Why does the price come up every time they make some product comparison? Consumers usually get what they pay for. A Nexus 7 or Kindle Fire is nothing like this Retina iPad Mini because they're on a completely different platform and this Apple-branded product will hold it's value far longer than any Android product. Anyway, consumers should buy what they can afford and if they can't afford to buy Apple products then that's their loss. That Retina iPad Mini looks to be a fine model of advanced engineering.
I know iPhoto app will support 20(I think) of those pixels, I don't think you can get the 32 on there, maybe 30 if lucky.
Thanks. I poked a bit further and discovered that via app "file sharing" I can load the full size files into iPhoto for iOS (though I have to export them out of my Aperture library using iPhoto or I get weird error messages and it doesn't work) and the information window says the image is, for instance, "54.5" MB, but the other complication is they're all RAW so what actually may be being displayed is the embedded jpg preview.
Exactly, thanks. Actually that comparison picture makes the mini screen look a little more saturated.
The point is that once you get it home and start using it it, the screen looks great. If you want to set it next to an Air and obsess over it to find something wrong, that's perverse. MacRumors is a den of gibbering technopervs.
And now they're doing the same thing comparing it to the nexus 7. Fact is 99.9% of the people who buy a rMini will be perfectly happy with it.
I got the iPad mini w/ Retina and had a chance to compare it against an Air. First thing I noticed on the Air was that the colors were more vibrant/saturated, even the red progress bar from Youtube looked more "red" on the Air. Checking some webpages (like NY Times) I thought the background was kind of gray on the Mini while in the Air they were bright white. Felt that colors are a little washed out in the Mini.
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If 264 ppi is retina, than doesn't it mean 326 ppi is overkill because the human eye can't distinguish? I still get the merits of having a consistent resolution.
Depends on the "average viewing distance." You most likely hold a Mini closer than you do an Air.
The mini is easier to type on than the air in portrait mode. The iPads are really slow compared to a keyboard or even iPhone. So if you type a lot- a keyboard is almost a necessity.
I have both the air and original mini (new mini coming in tomorrow). Can't go wrong either way.
I can type really fast on the iPad mini in portrait mode. I wouldn't bother using a keyboard with it. I'm much slower on the full sized keyboard and would probably consider using a keyboard if I was going to be doing a lot of typing with it. So far, I have never felt the desire to.
On a side note, I'm really looking forward to the iPad mini with Retina. I loved the old mini, and I'm really glad Apple didn't make the new mini a lesser iPad than the Air.
I'll be interested in seeing how the CPU and GPU stack up to the Air in clock speed and throttling, the 5S throttled back to 1GHz in just two minutes while the Air did better.
Also the Mini has a more washed out screen than the 3/4/Air
http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/12/5097886/rmini-washed-out-screen
Has anyone come across a similar comparison photo between the Air's screen density and the Retina Mini yet? I tried holding my 5S against the Air in the Apple store, but it didn't sit with me as a comparable test.
Apple released Iphone6 image.Did you see it?If not see here http://imgdino.com/viewer.php?file=68880560336892107577.jpg
How about three Toyota 86's for the price of a Boxster?
You have three of those but you're still envious of Boxster owner anyway.
very good, I just buy a iphone 5s, cant wait to buy an ipad mini2
No it doesn't. A bunch of dishonest little blowhard chihuahuas on MacRumors and The Verge are trying to spread the idea that the colors are washed out, but they are not washed out on mine.
But go ahead and join in the yapping if you feel you need to.
So the AP published a review of the mini. In the first paragraph they say only Apple could get away with a price increase. Hmmm...I could have sworn the 2nd gen Nexus 7 also went up in price. Am I wrong about that? Anyway the conclusion of their review is if you don't need the very best get a Nexus 7 or Kindle Fire, but if you can afford the retina mini go for it.
Apple is the only one who can get away with it because people will still buy the mini. Nexus won't get away with it because nobody wants one of those
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If you're interested in stereo photography, and I don't know why everyone isn't, the 326 ppi screen is a necessity. When you use a stereoscope over a pair of images, the lenses magnify perhaps 1.5 times. The normal iPad retina screen is too coarse, and you see the pixels to the point of distraction. With the mini you still don't see the pixels under magnification.
There might be other reasons for using a lens over a screen as well. For a look at modern interest in stereo photography, check out Brian May's website. (Yes, the guitarist for Queen.):
http://www.londonstereo.com/
Richard Devine from imore.com says he doesn't have this issue. His screen is sharp, bright and vibrant. And from the picture below the mini and Air screens look the same to me. The few reviews that I have seen, from Jim Darylmple, AP, Macworld and cnet don't mention anything about the screen looking "washed out". Could be that some people got a mini with a bad display. But the forum on MacRumors is ridiculous. Some people there won't stop until they find a flaw. They're not enjoying their device because they're spending all their time trying to find something wrong with it. :rolleyes:
Ordered mine last night...white, 128 GB WiFi
Replaces an iPad2 which tumbled off my side table, cracking the screen. But, it still works! I cannot remove the Moshi screen protectors, however, without shards of glass falling into my lap.
So, the iPad2 will become parked next to the bedroom TV, and I can still use it to stream videos, HBOgo, etc.
But the long awaited R mini is my path to the future. I will likely add a MBA as my main computer for projects, connecting it to a large screen in my office, but also giving me complete computing mobility in a small sized backback...iPhone, iPad mini and laptop Air...
Now, I gotta go find a 2nd job!
Exactly, thanks. Actually that comparison picture makes the mini screen look a little more saturated.
The point is that once you get it home and start using it it, the screen looks great. If you want to set it next to an Air and obsess over it to find something wrong, that's perverse. MacRumors is a den of gibbering technopervs.
High trade in value? I sold my mini on fee bay and after all their fees netted $215. Bah
Which model did you have, what was the actual condition, and did you have all the accessories, including the box? If you had a 16GB model, you did well considering the current 16GB model is now $299.
Most of the comments I read about the Retina iPad Mini on other sites is how someone can get a Nexus 7 or Kindle Fire for half the price that's just as good. WTF?!! I'm pretty certain that most consumers must feel this way but certainly not everyone. The day I look at a Porsche Boxster and say to myself I can get a Toyota Matrix for one-third the price that's just as good, I'm thinking of shooting myself. Why does the price come up every time they make some product comparison? Consumers usually get what they pay for. A Nexus 7 or Kindle Fire is nothing like this Retina iPad Mini because they're on a completely different platform and this Apple-branded product will hold it's value far longer than any Android product. Anyway, consumers should buy what they can afford and if they can't afford to buy Apple products then that's their loss. That Retina iPad Mini looks to be a fine model of advanced engineering.
That is the most condescending comment ever made.
I know iPhoto app will support 20(I think) of those pixels, I don't think you can get the 32 on there, maybe 30 if lucky.
Thanks. I poked a bit further and discovered that via app "file sharing" I can load the full size files into iPhoto for iOS (though I have to export them out of my Aperture library using iPhoto or I get weird error messages and it doesn't work) and the information window says the image is, for instance, "54.5" MB, but the other complication is they're all RAW so what actually may be being displayed is the embedded jpg preview.
Fun stuff in any case.
I got the iPad mini w/ Retina and had a chance to compare it against an Air. First thing I noticed on the Air was that the colors were more vibrant/saturated, even the red progress bar from Youtube looked more "red" on the Air. Checking some webpages (like NY Times) I thought the background was kind of gray on the Mini while in the Air they were bright white. Felt that colors are a little washed out in the Mini.
Anyone else had a chance to compare them?