This is why Apple can develop successful new app capabilities for iOS: developers have good reason to use them at once! What can Google do? They can add features (and they do) but how many developers are going to make an app for the tiny sliver who have the latest OS? Where's the business model for that? How will the momentum be achieved to make a feature something people actually use? And with Apple designing hardware and OS together the difference is even greater.
I don't care for the look of iOS 7 - it looks amateurish to me, regardless of how many people worked on it and how much effort went into it.
To me, it looks awful - like something a 7 year old would put together. Through a quirk, I had to exchange my 5 - the replacement has iOS 6.1.4 on it - and I only wish there were a way to revert my iPad to 6.
7 may indeed be a substantial technical advance, but I agree with those who hatehatehate how it looks.
I just lost my first long reply when Safari crashed. IOS 7 on the iPad mini retina. It crashes frequently.
What I was saying—I think iOS 7 looks like it was designed by uptight left-brain retentives determined not to be tactile, textural or "cluttered." It's part of a style trend in the hipster designer world, and I find it soulless and cold. The colors, I agree, are infantile, when combined with such things as the denatured Safari icon. The icons are absurdly bloodless, like the Settings one, that now looks like a bathroom ventilator grill. All for what? For glitzy wipes and swipes, which would have been jarring with the old icons—too much virtual "mass" to be sliding around.
They could have made the icons lovable or beautiful, like they were before, while they also flattened and de-massed them. But they seem to have overreacted against the Jobs-Forestall tactility. They went Puritanical, smashed the ikons, tossed the sensuous prior art into the flames. They took out the charm.
I'm keeping my 4S on iOS 6 to the bitter end, or until they regain their senses, literally. Meanwhile, they should meditate on the careers of Oliver Cromwell, Cotton Mather and the imams of Iran.
And the gigabyte-plus of iOS 7 that's sitting unused and unasked for on my phone, I want it back.
I don't care for the look of iOS 7 - it looks amateurish to me, regardless of how many people worked on it and how much effort went into it.
To me, it looks awful - like something a 7 year old would put together. Through a quirk, I had to exchange my 5 - the replacement has iOS 6.1.4 on it - and I only wish there were a way to revert my iPad to 6.
7 may indeed be a substantial technical advance, but I agree with those who hatehatehate how it looks.
That's really idiotic. There is nothing to "hate" about it. This is just more snarky bandwagon BS.
I'm glad you can't revert your devices...it will force you to understand that you were never entitled to anything about iOS 6 in the first place, and it will teach you how to adjust to change.
There is not one person who whines publicly about iOS 7 that is doing anything other than reacting to the very immature and basic human nature response to change. People can't handle change....or rather, people that don't understand that change has to happen to for things to move forward.
iOS 7 is a massive improvement VISUALLY over iOS 6 for dozens of measurable and enumerable reasons. The Layout, color scheme, Menu bars, pull overs, pop overs, and every single other UI element makes an amazing amount of sense for the devices, the apps, and how they are used. The fact that you don't understand this is merely your uneducated and uninformed outlook on iOS itself...and is no one's fault but your own.
You, and the rest of the minority, don't have to like it...but IT IS better. Whether you like it or not, it physically, functionally, and visually better....and thats the end of it.
...yet roughly three weeks after Kit Kat was announced all the big three, Verizon, ATT and T-Mo, (US) already rolled it out to Motorola's Moto X. In fact Verizon was the first to do so :wow:
Even some of the smaller carriers like US Cellular are already offering OTA updates to KitKat for the MotoX. Perhaps Google has more influence with the carriers than they're being given credit for.
That isn't a fair comparison of the Android landscape. I would expect everyone here expects Google's Nexus and Moto Products to get updates relatively fast and for a time frame longer than other Android-based vendors offer.
That's really idiotic. There is nothing to "hate" about it. This is just more snarky bandwagon BS.
I'm glad you can't revert your devices...it will force you to understand that you were never entitled to anything about iOS 6 in the first place, and it will teach you how to adjust to change.
There is not one person who whines publicly about iOS 7 that is doing anything other than reacting to the very immature and basic human nature response to change. People can't handle change....or rather, people that don't understand that change has to happen to for things to move forward.
iOS 7 is a massive improvement VISUALLY over iOS 6 for dozens of measurable and enumerable reasons. The Layout, color scheme, Menu bars, pull overs, pop overs, and every single other UI element makes an amazing amount of sense for the devices, the apps, and how they are used. The fact that you don't understand this is merely your uneducated and uninformed outlook on iOS itself...and is no one's fault but your own.
You, and the rest of the minority, don't have to like it...but IT IS better. Whether you like it or not, it physically, functionally, and visually better....and thats the end of it.
Better in many ways, I agree, but not aesthetically overall, in my opinion. Like I said above, they took out the charm, the mysterious visceral factor that Apple gets in spades with their hardware. Tactility rules most peoples' affection as much as the visual does.
Safari has crashed five times in the process of making these replies, by the way.. Is it iOS 7 or Safari or Huddler?
That's really idiotic. There is nothing to "hate" about it. This is just more snarky bandwagon BS.
I'm glad you can't revert your devices...it will force you to understand that you were never entitled to anything about iOS 6 in the first place, and it will teach you how to adjust to change.
There is not one person who whines publicly about iOS 7 that is doing anything other than reacting to the very immature and basic human nature response to change. People can't handle change....or rather, people that don't understand that change has to happen to for things to move forward.
iOS 7 is a massive improvement VISUALLY over iOS 6 for dozens of measurable and enumerable reasons. The Layout, color scheme, Menu bars, pull overs, pop overs, and every single other UI element makes an amazing amount of sense for the devices, the apps, and how they are used. The fact that you don't understand this is merely your uneducated and uninformed outlook on iOS itself...and is no one's fault but your own.
You, and the rest of the minority, don't have to like it...but IT IS better. Whether you like it or not, it physically, functionally, and visually better....and thats the end of it.
There's no need for all that self-righteousness, especially when it's bullshit. Yes, iOS7 is a major improvement feature wise, and in SOME cases, aesthetically. However, proclaiming the UI is unequivocally better is baloney, and shows that you don't have much objectivity in the matter. There are COUNTLESS aspects that make things less accessible, less legible, less obvious, and more confusing. Ultra-thin, small fonts, parallas backgrounds, removal of all shadows, transparencies, vaseline-like blur effects, major loss of contrast, non-sensical removal of skeumorphism that made some sense (ie. bookshelf is now weird grayish-white gradient, a pointless change that in all regards looks worse), odd use of typography and text colors, making buttons look like standard text, etc. To pretend that every single element is a step forward, and an improvement, is reaching. There's a reason there's been a shitload of very indepth, articulate articles from talented designers and UI specialists explain what exactly is wrong about iOS7. These people have very valid, specific, well argued points- not simply "can't handle change". You're the one that is chilidsh with the "it's better, shutup" mentality. I LOVE change, and I've been running iOS7 since the betas. But change has to make sense, and my issues with iOS7 go far beyond "not liking change".
I would expect this number to have a slight bump from Thanksgiving. Like many of you, Thanksgiving is a time for me to provide tech support to all of the old fogies that don't have much of a clue about doing it themselves. Lord knows all I did was upgrade my in-laws' iDevices to iOS 7 all day.
Those Android statistics are only devices that can connect to Google's Play Store - a majority of "Android" devices on the market today do not have access to that store.
Yes, but Debian Linux can claim they are winning because look how many Linux kernels are installed in all kinds of devices!
I don't know why Google decided to have 3 API updates to Jelly Bean and not call them different names, it's kind of misleads the consumer into thinking they are at the latest versions of Jelly Bean, since very few are running anything other than 4.1.x.
This is one main reason why I won't touch Android.
...yet roughly three weeks after Kit Kat was announced all the big three, Verizon, ATT and T-Mo, (US) already rolled it out to Motorola's Moto X. In fact Verizon was the first to do so :wow:
Even some of the smaller carriers like US Cellular are already offering OTA updates to KitKat for the MotoX. Perhaps Google has more influence with the carriers than they're being given credit for.
Google better get to work on that Chrome OS and hope they can start all over again, Oracle just might win the latest court battle (hopefully) ...
Better in many ways, I agree, but not aesthetically overall, in my opinion. Like I said above, they took out the charm, the mysterious visceral factor that Apple gets in spades with their hardware. Tactility rules most peoples' affection as much as the visual does.
Safari has crashed five times in the process of making these replies, by the way.. Is it iOS 7 or Safari or Huddler?
Do those crashes happen anywhere else as much as here on AI? My OS X Safari is no longer crashing on AI since yesterday's 10.9.1 update (but it never crashed anywhere else) so it may be an Apple-Huddler conflict?
I get Safari crashes in Mavericks with this site but on iOS I get an error when trying to access AI forums. This all seems to be Huddler issues.
Safari crashes in Mountain Lion while typing into the forums from time to time. Yes, I have the latest updates from Apple. Yes, I have reported it to Apple. Even if Huddler were buggy, Safari shouldn't crash.
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I actually like IOS7. It works good, I like the new features, the look is fine, actually pretty clean look in my opinion.
Things I don't like:
1) the paralax, just seems unnessisary and distracting.
2) The continued bugs (one in particualr dealing with web-apps)
I just lost my first long reply when Safari crashed. IOS 7 on the iPad mini retina. It crashes frequently.
What I was saying—I think iOS 7 looks like it was designed by uptight left-brain retentives determined not to be tactile, textural or "cluttered." It's part of a style trend in the hipster designer world, and I find it soulless and cold. The colors, I agree, are infantile, when combined with such things as the denatured Safari icon. The icons are absurdly bloodless, like the Settings one, that now looks like a bathroom ventilator grill. All for what? For glitzy wipes and swipes, which would have been jarring with the old icons—too much virtual "mass" to be sliding around.
They could have made the icons lovable or beautiful, like they were before, while they also flattened and de-massed them. But they seem to have overreacted against the Jobs-Forestall tactility. They went Puritanical, smashed the ikons, tossed the sensuous prior art into the flames. They took out the charm.
I'm keeping my 4S on iOS 6 to the bitter end, or until they regain their senses, literally. Meanwhile, they should meditate on the careers of Oliver Cromwell, Cotton Mather and the imams of Iran.
And the gigabyte-plus of iOS 7 that's sitting unused and unasked for on my phone, I want it back.
I don't care for the look of iOS 7 - it looks amateurish to me, regardless of how many people worked on it and how much effort went into it.
To me, it looks awful - like something a 7 year old would put together. Through a quirk, I had to exchange my 5 - the replacement has iOS 6.1.4 on it - and I only wish there were a way to revert my iPad to 6.
7 may indeed be a substantial technical advance, but I agree with those who hatehatehate how it looks.
That's really idiotic. There is nothing to "hate" about it. This is just more snarky bandwagon BS.
I'm glad you can't revert your devices...it will force you to understand that you were never entitled to anything about iOS 6 in the first place, and it will teach you how to adjust to change.
There is not one person who whines publicly about iOS 7 that is doing anything other than reacting to the very immature and basic human nature response to change. People can't handle change....or rather, people that don't understand that change has to happen to for things to move forward.
iOS 7 is a massive improvement VISUALLY over iOS 6 for dozens of measurable and enumerable reasons. The Layout, color scheme, Menu bars, pull overs, pop overs, and every single other UI element makes an amazing amount of sense for the devices, the apps, and how they are used. The fact that you don't understand this is merely your uneducated and uninformed outlook on iOS itself...and is no one's fault but your own.
You, and the rest of the minority, don't have to like it...but IT IS better. Whether you like it or not, it physically, functionally, and visually better....and thats the end of it.
After using the sleek and clean iOS 7 for a few weeks looking back on iOS 6 or earlier that all looks so outdated to me.
That isn't a fair comparison of the Android landscape. I would expect everyone here expects Google's Nexus and Moto Products to get updates relatively fast and for a time frame longer than other Android-based vendors offer.
This link shows a comparison of updates for various smartphone vendors: http://www.fidlee.com/tag/android/
Better in many ways, I agree, but not aesthetically overall, in my opinion. Like I said above, they took out the charm, the mysterious visceral factor that Apple gets in spades with their hardware. Tactility rules most peoples' affection as much as the visual does.
Safari has crashed five times in the process of making these replies, by the way.. Is it iOS 7 or Safari or Huddler?
Huddler.
I get Safari crashes in Mavericks with this site but on iOS I get an error when trying to access AI forums. This all seems to be Huddler issues.
I get Safari crashes in Mavericks with this site but on iOS I get an error when trying to access AI forums. This all seems to be Huddler issues.
AI crashes all the time for me on FireFox in Win7....the problem is FlashPlayerPlugin hanging up all the time.
That's really idiotic. There is nothing to "hate" about it. This is just more snarky bandwagon BS.
I'm glad you can't revert your devices...it will force you to understand that you were never entitled to anything about iOS 6 in the first place, and it will teach you how to adjust to change.
There is not one person who whines publicly about iOS 7 that is doing anything other than reacting to the very immature and basic human nature response to change. People can't handle change....or rather, people that don't understand that change has to happen to for things to move forward.
iOS 7 is a massive improvement VISUALLY over iOS 6 for dozens of measurable and enumerable reasons. The Layout, color scheme, Menu bars, pull overs, pop overs, and every single other UI element makes an amazing amount of sense for the devices, the apps, and how they are used. The fact that you don't understand this is merely your uneducated and uninformed outlook on iOS itself...and is no one's fault but your own.
You, and the rest of the minority, don't have to like it...but IT IS better. Whether you like it or not, it physically, functionally, and visually better....and thats the end of it.
There's no need for all that self-righteousness, especially when it's bullshit. Yes, iOS7 is a major improvement feature wise, and in SOME cases, aesthetically. However, proclaiming the UI is unequivocally better is baloney, and shows that you don't have much objectivity in the matter. There are COUNTLESS aspects that make things less accessible, less legible, less obvious, and more confusing. Ultra-thin, small fonts, parallas backgrounds, removal of all shadows, transparencies, vaseline-like blur effects, major loss of contrast, non-sensical removal of skeumorphism that made some sense (ie. bookshelf is now weird grayish-white gradient, a pointless change that in all regards looks worse), odd use of typography and text colors, making buttons look like standard text, etc. To pretend that every single element is a step forward, and an improvement, is reaching. There's a reason there's been a shitload of very indepth, articulate articles from talented designers and UI specialists explain what exactly is wrong about iOS7. These people have very valid, specific, well argued points- not simply "can't handle change". You're the one that is chilidsh with the "it's better, shutup" mentality. I LOVE change, and I've been running iOS7 since the betas. But change has to make sense, and my issues with iOS7 go far beyond "not liking change".
I have Click2Flash installed and this still happens.
Yes, but Debian Linux can claim they are winning because look how many Linux kernels are installed in all kinds of devices!
This is one main reason why I won't touch Android.
Google better get to work on that Chrome OS and hope they can start all over again, Oracle just might win the latest court battle (hopefully) ...
Do those crashes happen anywhere else as much as here on AI? My OS X Safari is no longer crashing on AI since yesterday's 10.9.1 update (but it never crashed anywhere else) so it may be an Apple-Huddler conflict?
Safari crashes in Mountain Lion while typing into the forums from time to time. Yes, I have the latest updates from Apple. Yes, I have reported it to Apple. Even if Huddler were buggy, Safari shouldn't crash.
Seems solid in iOS 6 (iPhone 5)