BOGO at one carrier, $0 down at another. It's sad they need to do this for a brand new phone.
Ah, so these are carrier specific deals implemented by the carriers (not Samsung) to try to sway you to their services over their competitions. That makes more sense.
Ah, so these are carrier specific deals implemented by the carriers (not Samsung) to try to sway you to their services over their competitions. That makes more sense.
Not really. I'm sure Sammy has a say in it and carriers aren't willingly going to lose money on an end-user sale unless they get money on the back-end.
I do think we will see NFC on the iPhone 6 4.7" and 5.5" models.
Here's the reason why: nobody has produced a Bluetooth 4.0 (LE) point of sale terminal anywhere in the world, while NFC point of sale terminals are common sights in Japan, South Korea and parts of Europe. I think at the insistence of Japanese and South Korean cellphone carriers, Apple has decided to put in an NFC radio/antenna subsystem, especially if that antenna also doubles as the Bluetooth 4.0 (LE) antenna. Because the case of the iPhone 6 4.7" and 5.5" models are completely brand new (it owes nothing to the iPhone 5/5S design), Apple could incorporate the latest technology to incorporate two radio and antenna subsystems, one for cellphone signals and Wi-Fi signals and one for NFC and Bluetooth signals but in a way that it won't compromise the thickness of the phone itself.
One thing Apple could pull off is the use of a new lithium-ion battery design. Several lithium-ion battery manufacturers have been test producing a new generation of dry-electrode lithium-ion batteries that promise way more power storage for the same battery size; if they can start ramping up production now, the new iPhones could be among the world's first consumer devices to use this new battery technology, one that could promise a reasonably thin phone case design but with much longer battery life per charge than on the iPhone 5S.
I wear Diesel straight leg jeans and I can fit almost any phone in my pocket and have it feel comfy. I have a Lumia 920, and it is not thin at all. A larger iPhone will be fine in your pocket.
whatever man. I know better. If the phone is in your front pocket and you are driving with seatbelt on and it rings in- you won't get it out of you pocket. Don't try to tell me.
Maybe you are freakish skinny with no resemblance of a real man and can do that . But at 6'1 190 and gnarly wearing 34-36- what you said won't happen sitting down. The current iPhone affords you the ability to carry it like a phone. Increase the size too much and you have a monster in your pocket. or an iPad.
and yeah, whatever - I have a monster in there that dwarfs your mushroom cap so don't even go there
Ah, so these are carrier specific deals implemented by the carriers (not Samsung) to try to sway you to their services over their competitions. That makes more sense.
does it matter that much who the hell is offering it? I guess if it that would save the argument you might be trying to make then fine. Good for you.
P.S. is that greenish yellow hue apparent on your nose really the color of samsungs dung? or has it always looked like that?
I disagree, because Apple is finding out that no manufacturer of point of sale terminals wants to build a Bluetooth 4.0 (LE) compatible point of sale terminal. Also, the range of Bluetooth 4.0 makes it potentially vulnerable to hacking, unlike NFC, which only has a range of a few inches (enough for a "tap to pay" function like you see with mobile payments common in Japan and South Korea).
With modern antenna technology, Apple could build a single antenna that could support both NFC and Bluetooth 4.0 at the same time, so there are no major concerns about adding NFC making the phone too big.
I disagree, because Apple is finding out that no manufacturer of point of sale terminals wants to build a Bluetooth 4.0 (LE) compatible point of sale terminal. Also, the range of Bluetooth 4.0 makes it potentially vulnerable to hacking, unlike NFC, which only has a range of a few inches (enough for a "tap to pay" function like you see with mobile payments common in Japan and South Korea).
With modern antenna technology, Apple could build a single antenna that could support both NFC and Bluetooth 4.0 at the same time, so there are no major concerns about adding NFC making the phone too big.
I think Apple will utilize Passbook somehow with Touch ID to pull-up a credit card in barcode form. Almost every vendor has a bar code scanner.
I think Apple will utilize Passbook somehow with Touch ID to pull-up a credit card in barcode form. Almost every vendor has a bar code scanner.
Right now, with Passbook you can use a variety of cards that will appear on your Lock Screen when you are in range of a retail location. You then swipe over it from left to right and it reveals the pass with a barcode, providing that retailer has added that feature to their Passbook pass. No unlocking of the device is required for this task.
This means that anyone that steals my iPhone could use it at Starbucks before I wipe it (or even after I wipe it if they take a photo of the barcode with their phone and then use that image to pass elsewhere. Not a big deal as the risk is minimal and I auto-recharge the card by $50 once it's below $10 so we're talking no more than $60 being lost.
With a CC or debit card* that could more of an issue so having Touch ID or a PIN to help verify you are the card owner would be nice. That said, the above method used with my Starbuck Passbook pass is just as secure as the plastic card which would give the user the same access if stolen so having any 2nd-tier authentication at checkout would increase security considerably but I would bet the average person**is still weary of anything secure of electronics are involved.
* Is DC for debit card an acceptable abbreviation? I've never seen it but I feel like if we can use CC for credit card we should be able to use DC for debit card without any confusion if they are used in tandem.
** I wonder how many average persons changed their passwords for corrected websites affected by Heartbleed?
Right now, with Passbook you can use a variety of cards that will appear on your Lock Screen when you are in range of a retail location. You then swipe over it from left to right and it reveals the pass with a barcode, providing that retailer has added that feature to their Passbook pass. No unlocking of the device is required for this task.
This means that anyone that steals my iPhone could use it at Starbucks before I wipe it (or even after I wipe it if they take a photo of the barcode with their phone and then use that image to pass elsewhere. Not a big deal as the risk is minimal and I auto-recharge the card by $50 once it's below $10 so we're talking no more than $60 being lost.
With a CC or debit card* that could more of an issue so having Touch ID or a PIN to help verify you are the card owner would be nice. That said, the above method used with my Starbuck Passbook pass is just as secure as the plastic card which would give the user the same access if stolen so having any 2nd-tier authentication at checkout would increase security considerably but I would bet the average person**is still weary of anything secure of electronics are involved.
* Is DC for debit card an acceptable abbreviation? I've never seen it but I feel like if we can use CC for credit card we should be able to use DC for debit card without any confusion if they are used in tandem.
** I wonder how many average persons changed their passwords for corrected websites affected by Heartbleed?
But isn't it also true that anyone that steals an NFC enable phone can use your NFC data? That's another reason why I probably won't use a mobile phone wallet.
But isn't it also true that anyone that steals an NFC enable phone can use your NFC data? That's another reason why I probably won't use a mobile phone wallet.
NFC is just a short-range, wireless loop technology so there is no inherent NFC data like there is no inherent BT or WiFi data. I use 1Password which has a lot of information about me. If that gets accessed someone really has every piece of information on me*. I would expect that Apple would keep any private card data encrypted in the secure enclave of your device or solely on Apple's servers (like they are now) so that it would unlikely for something to figure out how to access that data before you had a chance to cancel those cards. In fact, it's still much, much easier for someone to steal a card from your wallet or even just copy the numbers and name of a card from wallet. I bet with today's smartphone cameras I could easily keep the camera running and then analyze frames of people in a checkout line to gather plenty of card and driver's license data. Probably even PIN numbers.
* Including my vaccinations. I wish 1Password would add a health card option with expiry dates that will remind you when it's time to get more shots, checkups, and of course keep track of various medical visits and procedures
I think that the 5.5" iPhone is perfect, I would like to get the 128 GB Version. I'm glad that Apple has steped up and are building larger iPhones so I want have to strain my eyes to watch videos and look at my apps. Way To Go Apple, I Applaud You!
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And 4.67".
BOGO at one carrier, $0 down at another. It's sad they need to do this for a brand new phone.
BOGO at one carrier, $0 down at another. It's sad they need to do this for a brand new phone.
Ah, so these are carrier specific deals implemented by the carriers (not Samsung) to try to sway you to their services over their competitions. That makes more sense.
Not really. I'm sure Sammy has a say in it and carriers aren't willingly going to lose money on an end-user sale unless they get money on the back-end.
I do think we will see NFC on the iPhone 6 4.7" and 5.5" models.
Here's the reason why: nobody has produced a Bluetooth 4.0 (LE) point of sale terminal anywhere in the world, while NFC point of sale terminals are common sights in Japan, South Korea and parts of Europe. I think at the insistence of Japanese and South Korean cellphone carriers, Apple has decided to put in an NFC radio/antenna subsystem, especially if that antenna also doubles as the Bluetooth 4.0 (LE) antenna. Because the case of the iPhone 6 4.7" and 5.5" models are completely brand new (it owes nothing to the iPhone 5/5S design), Apple could incorporate the latest technology to incorporate two radio and antenna subsystems, one for cellphone signals and Wi-Fi signals and one for NFC and Bluetooth signals but in a way that it won't compromise the thickness of the phone itself.
One thing Apple could pull off is the use of a new lithium-ion battery design. Several lithium-ion battery manufacturers have been test producing a new generation of dry-electrode lithium-ion batteries that promise way more power storage for the same battery size; if they can start ramping up production now, the new iPhones could be among the world's first consumer devices to use this new battery technology, one that could promise a reasonably thin phone case design but with much longer battery life per charge than on the iPhone 5S.
I wear Diesel straight leg jeans and I can fit almost any phone in my pocket and have it feel comfy. I have a Lumia 920, and it is not thin at all. A larger iPhone will be fine in your pocket.
whatever man. I know better. If the phone is in your front pocket and you are driving with seatbelt on and it rings in- you won't get it out of you pocket. Don't try to tell me.
Maybe you are freakish skinny with no resemblance of a real man and can do that . But at 6'1 190 and gnarly wearing 34-36- what you said won't happen sitting down. The current iPhone affords you the ability to carry it like a phone. Increase the size too much and you have a monster in your pocket. or an iPad.
and yeah, whatever - I have a monster in there that dwarfs your mushroom cap so don't even go there
does it matter that much who the hel
Ah, so these are carrier specific deals implemented by the carriers (not Samsung) to try to sway you to their services over their competitions. That makes more sense.
does it matter that much who the hell is offering it? I guess if it that would save the argument you might be trying to make then fine. Good for you.
P.S. is that greenish yellow hue apparent on your nose really the color of samsungs dung? or has it always looked like that?
Not going to happen. Apple has moved on.
I still don't know of any other technology that offers similar or better wireless security than NFC.
Not going to happen. Apple has moved on.
I disagree, because Apple is finding out that no manufacturer of point of sale terminals wants to build a Bluetooth 4.0 (LE) compatible point of sale terminal. Also, the range of Bluetooth 4.0 makes it potentially vulnerable to hacking, unlike NFC, which only has a range of a few inches (enough for a "tap to pay" function like you see with mobile payments common in Japan and South Korea).
With modern antenna technology, Apple could build a single antenna that could support both NFC and Bluetooth 4.0 at the same time, so there are no major concerns about adding NFC making the phone too big.
I think Apple will utilize Passbook somehow with Touch ID to pull-up a credit card in barcode form. Almost every vendor has a bar code scanner.
Right now, with Passbook you can use a variety of cards that will appear on your Lock Screen when you are in range of a retail location. You then swipe over it from left to right and it reveals the pass with a barcode, providing that retailer has added that feature to their Passbook pass. No unlocking of the device is required for this task.
This means that anyone that steals my iPhone could use it at Starbucks before I wipe it (or even after I wipe it if they take a photo of the barcode with their phone and then use that image to pass elsewhere. Not a big deal as the risk is minimal and I auto-recharge the card by $50 once it's below $10 so we're talking no more than $60 being lost.
With a CC or debit card* that could more of an issue so having Touch ID or a PIN to help verify you are the card owner would be nice. That said, the above method used with my Starbuck Passbook pass is just as secure as the plastic card which would give the user the same access if stolen so having any 2nd-tier authentication at checkout would increase security considerably but I would bet the average person**is still weary of anything secure of electronics are involved.
* Is DC for debit card an acceptable abbreviation? I've never seen it but I feel like if we can use CC for credit card we should be able to use DC for debit card without any confusion if they are used in tandem.
** I wonder how many average persons changed their passwords for corrected websites affected by Heartbleed?
But isn't it also true that anyone that steals an NFC enable phone can use your NFC data? That's another reason why I probably won't use a mobile phone wallet.
NFC is just a short-range, wireless loop technology so there is no inherent NFC data like there is no inherent BT or WiFi data. I use 1Password which has a lot of information about me. If that gets accessed someone really has every piece of information on me*. I would expect that Apple would keep any private card data encrypted in the secure enclave of your device or solely on Apple's servers (like they are now) so that it would unlikely for something to figure out how to access that data before you had a chance to cancel those cards. In fact, it's still much, much easier for someone to steal a card from your wallet or even just copy the numbers and name of a card from wallet. I bet with today's smartphone cameras I could easily keep the camera running and then analyze frames of people in a checkout line to gather plenty of card and driver's license data. Probably even PIN numbers.
* Including my vaccinations. I wish 1Password would add a health card option with expiry dates that will remind you when it's time to get more shots, checkups, and of course keep track of various medical visits and procedures