Jury awards Apple $119.6M, Samsung $158K in damages after finding both guilty of patent infringement

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  • Reply 241 of 307
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    When was the last time you used an Android device?? haha.  I've actually NEVER seen slide to unlock on Android (with that wording and icon sliding across) - perhaps the Galaxy S had it 6 years ago.

    No, no, no, the Galaxy S had "Sweep to unlock", obviously completely different to "Slide to unlock", totally, totally different, nothing similar at all.

    Very high levels of sarcasm detected, proceed with caution.
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  • Reply 242 of 307
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    solipsismx wrote: »

    By SCOTUS?

    No by the Government under powers granted by the constitution.
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  • Reply 243 of 307
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    1) And the thread gets more bizarre.

    2) There is no game except the one you're playing with yourself.

    3) Pay attention, there is no whining or complaining, just a question about how much the law firms are banking from all these iPhone-related legal fees.

    4) Again, pay attention, there was no statement about Apple paying one a billion dollars to lawyers. No fucking clue how you could have even read into such a ludicrous statement.

    I'll rephrase, all the money that Apple has spent on lawyers and lawsuits is nowhere near what those lawyers have made for Apple, the effect on Apples ability to pay for R&D is a positive one i.e. Apple has more money to spend thanks to these lawsuits.

    Saying that these lawsuits have any effect on Apple's ability to innovate is absolutely ludicrous.

    Yet that tired old line is trotted out, over and over again, usually several times in any thread discussing Apple and lawsuits.
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  • Reply 244 of 307
    tastowetastowe Posts: 108member
    The samsung should not to copy from everybody in the United States. The google should not to buy smartphones from oversea Chinese phone maker vendors. I prefer the smartphones maker vendors made in the United States instead China.
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  • Reply 245 of 307
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

    DED's forehead is throbbing. Right. Now.

     

    Not just his.

     

    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post

    For the little its worth

     

    Why not just come right out with how little it’s worth? You know how little it’s worth.

     

    Originally Posted by SirLance99 View Post

    So Apple grossly underestimated the price.

     

    Fixed.

     

    Originally Posted by Andysol View Post

    You're on trial and could face the death penalty. You get 20 years instead. You're still getting raped by a guy named Bruce.

     

    20 days instead. You’re still getting towel whipped by a guy nam

     

    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post

    Fortunately

     

    For you.

     

    Originally Posted by AtlApple View Post

    Like it or not he is correct. You can't spin or slant being found guilty by a jury. 

     

    You can, however, get the verdict overturned.

     

    Originally Posted by Peterbob View Post

    Most of these software patents were useless and obvious. they shouldn't even be patents. At least these next to nothing software patents received next to nothing value. Good day for innovation.

     

    You through? You ought to be.

     

    Originally Posted by HAMETA View Post


     

    Ah, our great republic and the tenants of its order: Democracy! Whiskey! Sexy!

     

    Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

    Meh, a wins a win.

     

    You call this a win?

     

    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

    $1.4 billion SWAG.

     

    You seem considerably older than the kind of people associated with using that word. Unless it’s an acronym that I’m missing. “Suit Winning Amazing damaGes…”

     

    Originally Posted by Lord Amhran View Post

    Whatever happened to KDarling? He slink back to MacRumors?

     

    I vaguely remember him, a ban button, and a steamy make out session. Maybe not.

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  • Reply 246 of 307
    pharmkid02pharmkid02 Posts: 31member
    Only if SameSong would stop copying. It will end
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  • Reply 247 of 307
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    hill60 wrote: »
    I'll rephrase, all the money that Apple has spent on lawyers and lawsuits is nowhere near what those lawyers have made for Apple, the effect on Apples ability to pay for R&D is a positive one i.e. Apple has more money to spend thanks to these lawsuits.

    Saying that these lawsuits have any effect on Apple's ability to innovate is absolutely ludicrous.

    Yet that tired old line is trotted out, over and over again, usually several times in any thread discussing Apple and lawsuits.

    None of your comments address my query and now you're oddly including "Saying that these lawsuits have any effect on Apple's ability to innovate is absolutely ludicrous" when in no way did I suggest such a thing.
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  • Reply 248 of 307
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    Whatever happened to KDarling? He slink back to MacRumors?

    A good old Kevin. Yup: http://forums.macrumors.com/member.php?u=109523

    Total Posts: 11,064
    Posts Per Day: 4.39
    Last Activity: Today 09:17 AM

    And he's got a friend over there: gatorguy2 (who never posted anything). Also a kdarling2 account here since Jan., but no posts http://forums.appleinsider.com/u/200308/kdarling2

    His view on multi-touch invention:
    http://techpinions.com/pinch-to-zoom-and-rounded-rectangles-what-the-jury-didnt-say/9465

    Here's an email from 1992:
    From: kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling)
    Subject: Re: mci to put bills on CD
    Date: 1 Feb 92 07:35:49 GMT
    Organization: North Carolina State University

    emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) writes:

    > Yes, I know that paper is expensive to print out and to ship, but
    > that technology is pretty well entrenched and not easy to make
    > obsolete just with a little effort. Aside from the central
    > facilities costs of producing one-off cd-roms, there's the whole
    > matter of ensuring that customer sites are prepared to
    > read the disks and make some use from them.

    A computer and a CDROM drive. It's highly likely that sites receiving
    thousands of pages of phone bill a month already own such equipment.

    If not, the cost is nothing compared to the ability gained to track phone
    usage.

    Of course, the downside might be: no more sneaking in long distance calls
    to relatives and girlfriends :)

    best - kevin <kdarling@catt.ncsu.edu>

    Maybe he can still be reached at:
    kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling)
    You want his CC# as well¿

    (just thought this thread could use a little more weird fucking)
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  • Reply 249 of 307
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,769member
    philboogie wrote: »
    yada yada gatorguy2 (who never posted anything). etc etc

    That would be me. Someone there already took Gatorguy (wonder for what reason). I was trying to find out what his actual experience was and what he does. Never got an answer from him so had no interest in spending any time there. The smarter and more connected guys seem to be here.

    The rest of your post is bordering on stalker-ish IMO. If it was details you chose not to share about yourself here I suspect you'd look at it that way too. If I were to know some personal details about some of the members here ;) I'd have the courtesy to keep it to myself and not step on someone's toes, intruding and making implications for no other reason than being ornery.

    For someone like yourself with a stated objection to Google collecting information about us anonymized or not you seem to have no issue with publicly broadcasting whatever personal information you collect about someone else. More than a little disingenuous. Perhaps you should consider a bit of editing in your last post. There's already way too much in the way of personal attacks in different forums that have little to nothing to do with intelligent discussions.
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  • Reply 250 of 307
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    (Removed by decree per Judge Koh)
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  • Reply 251 of 307
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    That would be me at McRumors. Someone there already took Gatorguy (wonder for what reason).

    I'll never understand why someone wants to use someone else's Internet username.
    I was trying to find out what his actual experience was and what he does. Never got an answer from him so had no interest in spending any time there. The smarter and more connected guys seem to be here.

    I don't visit that site but get what you did, and why.
    The rest of your post is bordering on stalker-ish IMO. If it was details you chose not to share about yourself here I suspect you'd look at it that way too. If I were to know some personal details about some of the members here ;) I'd have the courtesy to keep it to myself and not step on someone's toes, intruding and making implications for no other reason than being ornery.

    I agree that it's not ok ok to be stalker-ish. Then again, it's all online and can be found thanks to search engines. By anyone. Still, you make a valid point.
    For someone like yourself with a stated objection to Google collecting information about us anonymized or not you seem to have no issue with publicly broadcasting whatever personal information you come across about someone else. More than a little disingenuous.

    I indeed disapprove of Google's ways (for many reasons) but rehashing seems to be the MO of the blogosphere nowadays. To be clear on the subject: I don't have any gripes with the person. I may have disagreed with (some of) his opinions, but I didn't make any derogatory posts about him, or his profession.
    Perhaps you should consider a bit of editing in your last post. There's already way too much in the way of personal attacks in different forums that have little to nothing to do with intelligent discussions.

    Good point! It was indeed not only a useless post, OT, and a little too personal but editing it out is a bit dumb if you ask me; AI sends out the email before one can edit their post, and I think I leave it as-is so people can see I make useless posts and can block me for that reason.

    PS sorry for the slow reply, I just had to watch a great piece from Blackadder.
    PPS this site could use a thumbs-down system so I can see other peoples' view on my lame post.
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  • Reply 252 of 307
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,769member
    philboogie wrote: »

    I agree that it's not ok ok to be stalker-ish. Then again, it's all online and can be found thanks to search engines. By anyone. Still, you make a valid point.

    I indeed disapprove of Google's ways (for many reasons) but rehashing seems to be the MO of the blogosphere nowadays. To be clear on the subject: I don't have any gripes with the person. I may have disagreed with (some of) his opinions, but I didn't make any derogatory posts about him, or his profession.

    Good point! It was indeed not only a useless post, OT, and a little too personal but editing it out is a bit dumb if you ask me; AI sends out the email before one can edit their post, and I think I leave it as-is so people can see I make useless posts and can block me for that reason.
    The only people that get emails are the ones that subscribe to the thread. That's not many. Probably even fewer read them. Don't let that affect your choice to leave it or not.

    As for Google and personal information it's all on-line for them to collect too just as you have. The difference? They don't see a need to share it without the person's permission. Yet they're evil. . .
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  • Reply 253 of 307

    Exactly, specially the so called "slide to unlock" button is very funny...this is so ridiculous.....my old Sony laptop has a physical button that slides to enable or disable wireless internet. But apple only implemented this idea in software....and now claim their invention. WOW...here most people who commented here are Americans, and no matter what, they just want a foreign company like Samsung to loss...that is very obvious. 

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  • Reply 254 of 307
    benjamin frostbenjamin frost Posts: 7,203member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

     

     

    One can only hope. It's all getting a bit old.


    Justice is always reprehensible to the unjust.

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  • Reply 255 of 307
    vaporlandvaporland Posts: 358member
    that settlement amount should just about cover the lawyers' bills. funny how things work out that way, almost like the system planned it in advance . . .

    . . . and it's certainly nice to know it happens to "corporations are people too™" not just the little guy in class actions.
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  • Reply 256 of 307
    atlappleatlapple Posts: 496member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

     

    You can, however, get the verdict overturned.


    Yes you can. However the odds aren't great. About 20% get overturned in favor of the plaintiff. I've said it many times, this was never going to go well for Apple, not because of the laws it's the mindset when it comes to stealing IP. We live in a world that steals music, video games, movies, computer software by the millions on a daily basis, it's seen as a victimless crime. 

     

    In the thread with the breakdown of damages island hermit posted the top news headlines it's rather telling. Did Samsung steal of course they did, was it unethical of course, it's getting a jury to see it as serious crime. The one certain fact is the lawyers will always do well. 

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  • Reply 257 of 307
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by AtlApple View Post

    However the odds aren't great.

     

    Come on. Really?

     

    I've said it many times, this was never going to go well for Apple, not because of the laws it's the mindset when it comes to stealing IP.


     

    You were wrong every time, though.

     

    We live in a world that steals music, video games, movies, computer software by the millions on a daily basis, it's seen as a victimless crime.


     

    Yeah, this isn’t that by a long shot.

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  • Reply 258 of 307
    dick applebaumdick applebaum Posts: 12,527member
    <span style="line-height:1.4em;">$1.4 billion SWAG.</span>

    You seem considerably older than the kind of people associated with using that word. Unless it’s an acronym that I’m missing. “Suit Winning Amazing damaGes…”

    Scientific Wild-Assed Guess ...

    First heard the term used in a programming class in the mid 1960s -- I was 25 then ...

    Everything old is new again... If I remember correctly???
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  • Reply 259 of 307
    snovasnova Posts: 1,281member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

     
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     
    Quote:

    $1.4 billion SWAG.




    You seem considerably older than the kind of people associated with using that word. Unless it’s an acronym that I’m missing. “Suit Winning Amazing damaGes…”



    Scientific Wild-Assed Guess ...



    First heard the term used in a programming class in the mid 1960s -- I was 25 then ...



    Everything old is new again... If I remember correctly???

     


    I use it all the time in my profession.   except I learned it to mean "Simple Wild Ass Guess".   But I think your version is funnier. 

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  • Reply 260 of 307
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member

    The pundits say Samsung and Google won in the end.  They are wrong.  Guilty is guilty.  These days a lot of people have thick face skins.  Their noses are also especially long.  They all know Jobs outrages.  They pretend they have not read Jobs words. 

     

    From now on, no Androids can use these three court validated patents.  Without slide to unlock, without data detection, the Android users know they are hopelessly using an inferior device. 

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