Yes, with you, and your comprehension of the situation.
It’s not a question of “letting” it happen. There will be no stopping it. Greece and Spain have fallen. If Italy falls, Germany and France won’t be ABLE to stop it.
It could become a problem for such companies in the UK. A well known coffee chain recently had to give in over this in response to public opinion, once their tax evasion 'scam' was given publicity in the press. As 'gimarbazat' says, it's not as if Apple is short of cash.
It's blackmail and Apple should tell the EU to FOAD.
It’s not a question of “letting” it happen. There will be no stopping it. Greece and Spain have fallen. If Italy falls, Germany and France won’t be ABLE to stop it.
This is what I thought also but the European reality has been proved much more complex.
It's blackmail and Apple should tell the EU to FOAD.
The case being referred to was not blackmail by the government, it was pressure from a public backlash that threatened sales. If a similar backlash were to raise against Apple then they could tell the buying public to FOAD if they want, but I doubt it'd work out well for them.
If the commission is just looking to get in on Apple's cash then the right thing to do is to legislate, not try to rob them after they followed the laws that had been set up. If you expect corporations to not seek the setup with the lowest tax burden then you operate under a world view that is strange to me.
I still have never been able to understand why some people think it's ok to look at a successful person or business and think to themselves, "I deserve the reward for their work, simply because I have less than they do." Wanting it is envy. Thinking you deserve it is a breakdown of some mental faculty.
If the commission is just looking to get in on Apple's cash then the right thing to do is to legislate, not try to rob them after they followed the laws that had been set up.
Good for you. Maybe you shouldn’t have posted it publicly, then.
Why not? It hasn't brought me any harm. I'm not offended by you answering me with your usual snide and clueless condescension, I just have no interest in engaging with you.
The problem for the EU is that if these companies like Starbucks continue to be allowed to trade, the whole tax regime folds.
They need to get serious. Interestingly, because of the large scale tax evasion a good percentage of the UK population rightly boycott Starbucks. The reason being that Starbucks undermines the UK economy.
It is the duty of all citizens, businesses and corporations to pay their taxes. See eBeliefSystem's comment, above. Also, could those childish commentator's making inane, rude even, remarks, please desist, it doesn't reflect well on them and annoys everyone else.
It is the duty of all citizens, businesses and corporations to pay their taxes. See eBeliefSystem's comment, above. Also, could those childish commentator's making inane, rude even, remarks, please desist, it doesn't reflect well on them and annoys everyone else.
Depends on which special interest has pushed through their tax increase or exemption, doesn't it?
The special interests concerned in this case are the US treasury, The Irish and British Governments and Apple, an incredibly rich, highly sophisticated knowledge based company that operates in all three countries.
Each of those countries, for better or worse, have their own tax laws. Apple is not alone amongst large trading companies in seeking to find ways of avoiding paying taxes in the countries it operates in, largely through loop holes in the taxation laws of those countries. The bigger the company, the more they can spend on lawyers in order to avoid paying tax. Little people like me and, I assume, you, do not have that facility. It is us, the little people, who have to pay taxes through the nose for public services, pensions, the military and police, etc. out of our own pockets. Don't get me wrong, Apple products are all over my desk. They are great products, but that does not mean that Apple et al
should be able to get away with avoiding paying their dues.
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According to whose morals?
Everyone who wants to have an opinion on it? What sort of question is that?
Everyone who wants to have an opinion on it? What sort of question is that?
What sort of answer is that?
France can't stop anything.
What sort of answer is that?
Not everyone has the same morals. That's why we have laws. It's perfectly legal for Apple and others to avoid taxes this way.
It's blackmail and Apple should tell the EU to FOAD.
The EU is not after Apple. It's all explained in the other thread.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/180559/european-union-announces-tax-evasion-investigations-of-apple-fiat-starbucks#post_2548839
It’s not a question of “letting” it happen. There will be no stopping it. Greece and Spain have fallen. If Italy falls, Germany and France won’t be ABLE to stop it.
This is what I thought also but the European reality has been proved much more complex.
Good for you. Maybe you shouldn’t have posted it publicly, then.
You know, I’ve heard that. Germany seems to be pulling the dead weight of the entire Eurozone behind them. How much longer will they put up with that?
If the commission is just looking to get in on Apple's cash then the right thing to do is to legislate, not try to rob them after they followed the laws that had been set up. If you expect corporations to not seek the setup with the lowest tax burden then you operate under a world view that is strange to me.
I still have never been able to understand why some people think it's ok to look at a successful person or business and think to themselves, "I deserve the reward for their work, simply because I have less than they do." Wanting it is envy. Thinking you deserve it is a breakdown of some mental faculty.
it's not as if Apple is short of cash.
if someone has 'enough' then it's ok to take it from them by force?
Toodles!
They need to get serious. Interestingly, because of the large scale tax evasion a good percentage of the UK population rightly boycott Starbucks. The reason being that Starbucks undermines the UK economy.
It is the duty of all citizens, businesses and corporations to pay their taxes. See eBeliefSystem's comment, above. Also, could those childish commentator's making inane, rude even, remarks, please desist, it doesn't reflect well on them and annoys everyone else.
Depends on which special interest has pushed through their tax increase or exemption, doesn't it?
Here is an ABC of the situation.
The special interests concerned in this case are the US treasury, The Irish and British Governments and Apple, an incredibly rich, highly sophisticated knowledge based company that operates in all three countries.
Each of those countries, for better or worse, have their own tax laws. Apple is not alone amongst large trading companies in seeking to find ways of avoiding paying taxes in the countries it operates in, largely through loop holes in the taxation laws of those countries. The bigger the company, the more they can spend on lawyers in order to avoid paying tax. Little people like me and, I assume, you, do not have that facility. It is us, the little people, who have to pay taxes through the nose for public services, pensions, the military and police, etc. out of our own pockets. Don't get me wrong, Apple products are all over my desk. They are great products, but that does not mean that Apple et al
should be able to get away with avoiding paying their dues.
OK?