I doubt "L" development started after Apple's reveal of iOS8. Google may have some darn good engineers but they're not magicians. FWIW I personally think Android L is even less similar to iOS than their previous version was. Feature-wise the two are mimicking each other more and more as would be expected. Implementations are not.
Reaction to iOS 7 not 8. I see lots of aspects to how Material and Google Design view hierarchies interact as being very similar to iOS now than historic Android.
Google keeps announcing new crap, yet the majority of Android users are still stuck on some ancient OS version.
And it doesn't even matter if the new Google TV or any of their other products are flops, just like before when they tried to release the same products and they bombed. The only suckers will be the sorry bastards who waste their money on one of these items. Google will just keep releasing new stuff, flinging shit at a wall, to see what sticks.
The other day, I was reading a thread on another site about some Android phone, and there was a conversation amongst Fandroids, and one person was complaining about their Android phone, and another person linked them to a custom ROM, that would supposedly solve their problems, and when you clicked on it, the person (or kid) who made that ROM admitted that it was their first ever ROM." src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> Yep, that's the solution to all Android problems, just download some ROM that some anonymous fucking amateur kid made and put it on your phone.
And this is the kind of stuff that Fandroids are doing with their phones, installing custom ROMs that some fucking kid made, who has never even made one before. And these morons are just installing them freely on their phones. I've said it before, but Fandroids deserve all of the bad things that will eventually happen to them and their devices." src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> What a bunch of freaking morons and cheapskates.
Yep. And I think Craig Federighi will get lots of stage time because he's good at it. What I love most about Tim is he knows his weakness and doesn't try to be something he's not.
Yeah, Craig was pretty good on stage, not nervous at all, and has a sense of humor.
I'd say one of the worst in term of planning and focus, although I'm probably in the minority, was the iPad event. Steve Jobs repeated himself several times during the demo and using the NYT site with a flash logo on the page was bad form.
Agree, in my opinion the iPad event wasn't Steve's finest hour. But still the best in class if you've suffered through any of Samsung's, Microsoft's or the latest Google conference. Ironically, Samsung's recent Health event should have had a health warning before watching!
A variant of what iOS 7 did with the translucent blur effect so that the user interface takes on the colour of whatever background image you have set or content you are looking at (now coming to OS X).
And that in turn is reminiscent of what Windows has been doing since at least Windows 7. When you hover over an app icon in the taskbar, the color of the glow that tracks your cursor is derived from the icon colors. Similarly, the taskbar in Ubuntu's user interface is shaded according to the color of your wallpaper. These are all variants of the same general idea.
I doubt "L" development started after Apple's reveal of iOS8. Google may have some darn good engineers but they're not magicians. FWIW I personally think Android L is even less similar to iOS than their previous version was. Feature-wise the two are mimicking each other more and more as would be expected. Implementations are not.
In that case iOS8 could be considered by some as much a reaction to Android KitKat which could be considered a reaction to iOS7 which could be considered a reaction to Jellybean. . .
And that in turn is reminiscent of what Windows has been doing since at least Windows 7. When you hover over an app icon in the taskbar, the color of the glow that tracks your cursor is derived from the icon colors. Similarly, the taskbar in Ubuntu's user interface is shaded according to the color of your wallpaper. These are all variants of the same general idea.
And I'm sure we could keep tracing it all the way back to ideas and algorithms developed in the 1960s. However, the point of the discussion was that Android L was moving away from iOS, and I was listing the ways in which I feel it isn't.
I put the 2014 WWDC keynote p there with the original iPhone event The iPhone was just amazing but this even had so many great things, spaced out well, and clearly detailed.
I'd say one of the worst in term of planning and focus, although I'm probably in the minority, was the iPad event. Steve Jobs repeated himself several times during the demo and using the NYT site with a flash logo on the page was bad form.
I think there are worse Stevenotes. Just search YouTube for his keynote mistakes. Someone has compiled the videos.
The iPad announcement was one of the last times Steve was on hand to change the world. Twenty months later, he would resign as CEO.
Like everyone else they either feel asleep and/or couldn't figure out what focus they had at the event. I watched it and I have to struggle to think of a coherent them or any breakout products are pushing the envelope for the next year. Not mentioning Google Glass (or Google+) certainly didn't help after mentioning pretty much everything else in a haphazard manner.
Yeah I watched it too. It was OK.
I chuckled when they announced that there are 5,000 new APIs in the next version of Android.
I'm sure there's some good stuff in there.... but it will take years before a meaningful percentage of Android devices will even have that version.
Kit Kat came out a year ago with a bunch of new APIs... yet only 15% of Android devices have it. So what incentive is there for an Android developer to take advantage of all these new APIs?
"Here are some new features that people might enjoy in 2 or 3 years... "
In that case iOS8 could be considered by some as much a reaction to Android KitKat which could be considered a reaction to iOS7 which could be considered a reaction to Jellybean. . .
They've all got their reactionary features.
I have to disagree. Many features Apple added in 7 were long requested but implemented by Google to beat Apple to the punch but not done in a way Apple would approve of. Apple waits until they get a feature to work how they feel it should so they don't have to keep shifting directions. Allowing 3rd party integration in 8 was a big deal because it would have exposed IOS to the same dangers as Android does. They could have easily just allowed apps to communicate, but security is out the window. They invested the time required to develop extentions that allows interaction without sacrificing security.
It’s pretty simple to understand: We care about it when it’s wrong. How’s that confusing?
Thanks for helping ddawson100 figure that out. Of course we care just keep it honest. It mystifies why some people get peeved when this pro-Apple site acts pro-Apple.
If Oprah was running Google, all the developers would have looked under their seats and found the keys to a new Google Self-Driving Car.
This would be a massive opportunity for Google developers - when the passengers are being driven by the car to their destination they don't have anything to do, so Android could just flash ads on the dashboard display screen for the riders to watch.
And Google could make the ads location-aware so if you are driving down the street your car could be talking to you... "Starbucks ahead ! Should I pull in?" or "You just passed McDonald's and your last chance for a McRib sandwich for the next 3.2 miles".
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Reaction to iOS 7 not 8. I see lots of aspects to how Material and Google Design view hierarchies interact as being very similar to iOS now than historic Android.
They should rename the event to "Glassholes Convention". Twiddledee and Twiddledum on the far right looks like they are going to break their chairs.
This is a sad, sad photo.
Google keeps announcing new crap, yet the majority of Android users are still stuck on some ancient OS version.
And it doesn't even matter if the new Google TV or any of their other products are flops, just like before when they tried to release the same products and they bombed. The only suckers will be the sorry bastards who waste their money on one of these items. Google will just keep releasing new stuff, flinging shit at a wall, to see what sticks.
The other day, I was reading a thread on another site about some Android phone, and there was a conversation amongst Fandroids, and one person was complaining about their Android phone, and another person linked them to a custom ROM, that would supposedly solve their problems, and when you clicked on it, the person (or kid) who made that ROM admitted that it was their first ever ROM.
" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> Yep, that's the solution to all Android problems, just download some ROM that some anonymous fucking amateur kid made and put it on your phone.
And this is the kind of stuff that Fandroids are doing with their phones, installing custom ROMs that some fucking kid made, who has never even made one before. And these morons are just installing them freely on their phones. I've said it before, but Fandroids deserve all of the bad things that will eventually happen to them and their devices.
" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> What a bunch of freaking morons and cheapskates.
Yep. And I think Craig Federighi will get lots of stage time because he's good at it. What I love most about Tim is he knows his weakness and doesn't try to be something he's not.
Yeah, Craig was pretty good on stage, not nervous at all, and has a sense of humor.
Agree, in my opinion the iPad event wasn't Steve's finest hour. But still the best in class if you've suffered through any of Samsung's, Microsoft's or the latest Google conference. Ironically, Samsung's recent Health event should have had a health warning before watching!
A variant of what iOS 7 did with the translucent blur effect so that the user interface takes on the colour of whatever background image you have set or content you are looking at (now coming to OS X).
And that in turn is reminiscent of what Windows has been doing since at least Windows 7. When you hover over an app icon in the taskbar, the color of the glow that tracks your cursor is derived from the icon colors. Similarly, the taskbar in Ubuntu's user interface is shaded according to the color of your wallpaper. These are all variants of the same general idea.
From the ads that get displayed to me in Safari, I was under the impression only beautiful women wore Google glasses.
Oh. . .
Nevermind then. :embarrass
In that case iOS8 could be considered by some as much a reaction to Android KitKat which could be considered a reaction to iOS7 which could be considered a reaction to Jellybean. . .
They've all got their reactionary features.
Microsoft and Google are selling unified platforms. Apple is selling unified user experiences.
Yesterday some people were saying women were underrepresented in tech. After looking at that photo, is it any surprise? Just look at those guys.
Your impression was correct. That Google I/O pic was photoshopped.
And that in turn is reminiscent of what Windows has been doing since at least Windows 7. When you hover over an app icon in the taskbar, the color of the glow that tracks your cursor is derived from the icon colors. Similarly, the taskbar in Ubuntu's user interface is shaded according to the color of your wallpaper. These are all variants of the same general idea.
And I'm sure we could keep tracing it all the way back to ideas and algorithms developed in the 1960s. However, the point of the discussion was that Android L was moving away from iOS, and I was listing the ways in which I feel it isn't.
I think there are worse Stevenotes. Just search YouTube for his keynote mistakes. Someone has compiled the videos.
The iPad announcement was one of the last times Steve was on hand to change the world. Twenty months later, he would resign as CEO.
Yeah I watched it too. It was OK.
I chuckled when they announced that there are 5,000 new APIs in the next version of Android.
I'm sure there's some good stuff in there.... but it will take years before a meaningful percentage of Android devices will even have that version.
Kit Kat came out a year ago with a bunch of new APIs... yet only 15% of Android devices have it. So what incentive is there for an Android developer to take advantage of all these new APIs?
"Here are some new features that people might enjoy in 2 or 3 years... "
I have to disagree. Many features Apple added in 7 were long requested but implemented by Google to beat Apple to the punch but not done in a way Apple would approve of. Apple waits until they get a feature to work how they feel it should so they don't have to keep shifting directions. Allowing 3rd party integration in 8 was a big deal because it would have exposed IOS to the same dangers as Android does. They could have easily just allowed apps to communicate, but security is out the window. They invested the time required to develop extentions that allows interaction without sacrificing security.
This would be a massive opportunity for Google developers - when the passengers are being driven by the car to their destination they don't have anything to do, so Android could just flash ads on the dashboard display screen for the riders to watch.
And Google could make the ads location-aware so if you are driving down the street your car could be talking to you... "Starbucks ahead ! Should I pull in?" or "You just passed McDonald's and your last chance for a McRib sandwich for the next 3.2 miles".
I am looking forward to all the innovation.
Wow... Wall Street NOT pooping all over Apple.
Welcome to Bizarro World.
Seeing as Wall Street are buying back into AAPL they'd rather not bite the hand that feeds. The whole thing is a sham anyway.