Apple reverts to 30-second iTunes song previews for new, popular tracks

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  • Reply 21 of 56
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RichL View Post

     

    Why would someone bother to abuse this feature when the full version of the song is available for free on YouTube?


    Like someone mentioned before, Spotify, best way to listen to entire albums before purchasing.

  • Reply 22 of 56
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,674member
    relic wrote: »
    No, you can listen to as much music as you want for free on the Desktop and tablets, though every 15 to 20 songs they interrupt with a 30 second ad spot, after your song is done playing of course. You pay for premium to get rid of the ads, higher quality though the free service sounds just fine, and the ability of listening to music on your iPhone. Have you seriously not ever use Spotify before, if not you should at least try it once, fantastic service, iTunes Radio can't hold a candle to it. My whole family is on it, has saved me at at least a thousand dollars a year on iTunes purchases.

    I agree, spottily is great. I get it for free from my ISP, probably some promotion. Or the fact that I've been with them since 1995.

    Unfortunately I can't use their web player:

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  • Reply 23 of 56
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post





    I agree, spottily is great. I get it for free from my ISP, probably some promotion. Or the fact that I've been with them since 1995.



    Unfortunately I can't use their web player:




    They have a desktop app as well.

  • Reply 24 of 56
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,674member
    relic wrote: »
    They have a desktop app as well.

    Just downloaded that, enjoying it now. Tnx
  • Reply 25 of 56
    asciiascii Posts: 5,936member

    Songs that people on other forums say are 30s are still 90s for me, so it's all very confusing.

  • Reply 26 of 56
    j1h15233j1h15233 Posts: 274member
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    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

     

    A good decision.

     

    An average song is what, 3:30 - 4:00 minutes long?

     

    90 seconds is too long for a preview. 30 seconds is more than enough time for somebody to make up their mind if they want to buy a song or not. 

     

    Should there be free movie previews where 1/3 (30 minutes - 45 minutes) of the film is viewable?<img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> 


    Not at all the same. When a movie is released, they don't play it all day every day for free. 

  • Reply 27 of 56
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,505member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    I always thought 30 seconds was too short and 90 seconds longer than it needs to be. How about 60 seconds? How often do hooks typically come in modern songs?

    But does any of this really matter? Are people really going to iTunes Store to give a song a partial listen? I just use YouTube and I get to listen to the whole thing, often with a video.

    That's so true, there is often official full length versions on Youtube!

    I was reading an article the other day about the history of music and it mentioned that we have come full circle. In history, there was the live music, almost from when time began ... then not that long ago musicians and their 'industry' found ways to make money without playing live; it all started sheet music then onto player piano rolls, wax records, vinyl records, cassettes, CDs, digital downloads and lastly streaming ... and now ... the artists are back to having to play live to make money.
  • Reply 28 of 56
    cgs268cgs268 Posts: 55member
    The more of a song you review the least likely you are to buy it! Unlesss you like it of course!

    That's why all this streaming is detrimental to both physical and online sales.

    There were many times I bought a single on iTunes after listening only the 30 seconds but then I realised I didn't like it after purchase!

    I hope they don't go back to 30 seconds although I suppose there's always Spotify ...
  • Reply 29 of 56
    Can't confirm that for iTunes Switzerland on the iPhone. All previews of the mentioned albums are still 90 seconds long.
  • Reply 30 of 56

    Can't confirm that for iTunes Switzerland on the iPhone. The previews of all mentioned albums are still 90 seconds long.

  • Reply 31 of 56
    paul94544paul94544 Posts: 1,027member
    to the "man" that said "friggin media companies", you expect everything to be free?, what incentive is there to produce creative work if one cannot be paid for it, everyone has to put food on the table., c'mon I dare you to come up with an argument why not, tallest skil? If you can't why don't you quit the stupid knee jerk reaction drivel you post.
  • Reply 32 of 56
    evilutionevilution Posts: 1,398member

    A lot of the shit released today is so repetitive that you could probably build the entire song from a 90 second clip.

  • Reply 33 of 56
    evilutionevilution Posts: 1,398member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Paul94544 View Post



    to the "man" that said "friggin media companies", you expect everything to be free?, what incentive is there to produce creative work if one cannot be paid for it, everyone has to put food on the table., c'mon I dare you to come up with an argument why not, tallest skil? If you can't why don't you quit the stupid knee jerk reaction drivel you post.

    Even 90 seconds with of song isn't "giving it away for free". It's not the whole song, it's a taster.

    Tasters should be free to get people interested in purchasing the full priced product.

     

    Apple may have been asked/told to reduce the previews or they may have done it to reduce bandwidth or save them or us data.

    It may be dependent on your internet connection, we don't know.

     

    If Tallest Skil wanted everything to be free, he wouldn't be an Apple fan.

  • Reply 34 of 56
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member
    Originally Posted by Evilution View Post

    A lot of the shit released today is so repetitive that you could probably build the entire song from a 90 second clip.

     

    Obligatory.

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    And then these two ARE the exact same song:

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  • Reply 35 of 56
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    Obligatory.


     

    Funny and so true, that video sums up every Christmas Eve party that I have ever thrown. Always, and I mean always resulted it me putting on impromptu concert turned Karaoke session for my guests with exactly those type of songs in that video. Hey Relic grab your keyboard, no, oh come on, ugh, then I start playing Beethoven just to piss them off, noooo play something from Fleetwood Mac, no U2, no the Cure, fu**! My parents always told me that it was important to learn an instrument as it makes an individual smarter and more cultured, little did they know those gifts would just be wasted on drunk friends who aren't very smart or cultured.

  • Reply 36 of 56
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member
    Originally Posted by Relic View Post

    My parents always told me that it was important to learn an instrument as it makes an individual smarter and more cultured, little did they know those gifts would just be wasted on drunk friends who aren't very smart or cultured.


     

    I did NOT spend my childhood learning to play the piano just so some dork could tell me to “do coldplay”. <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

     

    And no, I did not learn how to play the saxophone to be able to Carelessly Whisper girls’ undergarments off.

  • Reply 37 of 56
    freshmakerfreshmaker Posts: 532member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

    Frigging media companies.


    This has nothing to do with the media companies.  Why on earth would they care about 30 vs 90 second previews?  This is about Apple trying out the shorter previews to see if A) people even care and B) save on bandwidth costs if they don't.

  • Reply 38 of 56
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,399member
    Originally Posted by Freshmaker View Post

    This has nothing to do with the media companies.  Why on earth would they care about 30 vs 90 second previews?

     

    “Why on earth would the companies that sell content based on a lack of knowledge about it want to limit the knowledge of that content?”

     

    Really?

     

    This is about Apple trying out the shorter previews to see if A) people even care and B) save on bandwidth costs if they don’t.


     

    SO WHY DID THEY BOTHER WITH THE NEGOTIATIONS TO GET LONGER PREVIEWS IN THE FIRST PLACE. Think things through.

  • Reply 39 of 56
    I called Apple APP yesterday when I noticed this, and they didn't have a clue. Personally I have made considerably more purchases based on the 90 second previews, since they seem to be so arbitrary in regard to what part of the song you hear. At 30 seconds, I dismissed way more than at 90 seconds.

    Big mistake, I hope they do something about this.
  • Reply 40 of 56
    sestewartsestewart Posts: 102member
    30 seconds is not long enough to get a feel of the artist's ability to write decent songs. Maybe you get a glimpse of a bridge or chorus, but you can't get a decent idea of if the album is really worth buying with only 30 seconds of songs not played on the radio, that you've never heard, and are looking to purchase. IF iTunes Radio with a match subscription would allow full streaming of songs like spotify or another service, then I could see limiting non-paid previews to 30 seconds.
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