This happens every time someone has a problem i.e 'I don't have the problem so you can't have the problem either'. It doesn't work like that. Some people are fat, some people are thin, people have different sized clothing and pockets and do different activities. Every account is going to be a singular experience so not representative of everyone.
What we know is that some people have bought iPhones for themselves and they're damaged. It's unlikely to be widespread this soon but the media has a responsibility to report these things to make people aware of it, at least to ensure they treat their products more carefully. Imagine if there was a widespread issue, people would 'say why didn't the media warn us as soon as they saw people having problems?'. You're damned if you do report it and damned if you don't.
Hahahahaha! The "media" now is as bad as they've ever been. As in every human activity, the media is full of self-interested people who are as lazy, stupid, careless and foolish as anyone else.
This happens every time someone has a problem i.e 'I don't have the problem so you can't have the problem either'. It doesn't work like that. Some people are fat, some people are thin, people have different sized clothing and pockets and do different activities. Every account is going to be a singular experience so not representative of everyone.
What we know is that some people have bought iPhones for themselves and they're damaged. It's unlikely to be widespread this soon but the media has a responsibility to report these things to make people aware of it, at least to ensure they treat their products more carefully. Imagine if there was a widespread issue, people would 'say why didn't the media warn us as soon as they saw people having problems?'. You're damned if you do report it and damned if you don't.
I'm sorry Marvin. You have a point, but I don't share your willingness to try and explain the "responsibilities" of the media....whose mantra is : If it bleeds, it leads. That alone tells me everything I need to know about how "responsible" the news media is.
Hahahahaha! The "media" now is as bad as they've ever been. As in every human activity, the media is full of self-interested people who are as lazy, stupid, careless and foolish as anyone else.
If anyone thinks the media reporting on this is some sort of genuine PSA they're smoking something. No this is 100% about clicks. 100% about trying to embarrass Apple because that brings page views. But Business Insider reported this morning that there are still lines outside some Apple stores so it might not be working,
Remember when during Antennagate (ugh, I hate typing that) Apple showed us that impressive room they use for testing RF things? If I remember correctly it was a huge white spherical room like something out of X-Men (where Professor X goes to scan for mutants.) If there is an upside to this latest "scandal" maybe we'll get to see some impressive equipment that Apple uses to test the durability of their designs. Personally, I have no doubt that Apple engineers know exactly how much torque it takes to damage an iPhone and they factored that into the final design (balancing it against size, weight, battery capacity, hand feel, etc.). And they would say "yes we know that a strong guy who tries hard can deform the case; so don't do that."
Hahahahaha! The "media" now is as bad as they've ever been. As in every human activity, the media is full of self-interested people who are as lazy, stupid, careless and foolish as anyone else.
Yeah, you're right, people acting in their self-interest usually ends badly. We should do everything possible to get them to act in the best interests of others.
I don't share your willingness to try and explain the "responsibilities" of the media....whose mantra is : If it bleeds, it leads.
They can obviously choose to ignore items they don't deem newsworthy but what's the criteria? Lack of evidence, unreliable sources etc. Multiple people are posting photos of their bent phones. The number is minuscule compared to shipped units so they shouldn't sensationalise it but some news networks are actually dismissing the problem by videoing themselves repeatedly sitting down on different chairs, which is at least entertaining.
There's about 6 users in the thread who reported warped phones. The test was just to see if it could be bent and what it would take in a short-term event. People aren't saying their iPhones are completely buckled like in the stress test, they are just askew after prolonged periods of time in their pockets. This scenario isn't possible to replicate easily. A newscaster can't possibly do a test like that for 18 hours. Maybe CNN I suppose but they'll need a whole array of different chairs and a virtual reality simulator of likely activities one might do in order to be sitting and standing such as a attend a virtual wedding, ride in a car and work in an office.
And note we have only his word for how it got that way...I think I referred to that, if obliquely.
Sure, but I think there are more than enough reports to assume that not everyone is purposely bending their iPhones then posting pics of them on the internet.
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Hahahahaha! The "media" now is as bad as they've ever been. As in every human activity, the media is full of self-interested people who are as lazy, stupid, careless and foolish as anyone else.
I think it would be more accurate to say, "This is totally a problem with owners of the iPhone Plus."
In other words, the phone/minitablet is fine, it's how it's treated that is not fine.
Hahahahahahahaha
A whole new thread on bending!
Great!
This happens every time someone has a problem i.e 'I don't have the problem so you can't have the problem either'. It doesn't work like that. Some people are fat, some people are thin, people have different sized clothing and pockets and do different activities. Every account is going to be a singular experience so not representative of everyone.
What we know is that some people have bought iPhones for themselves and they're damaged. It's unlikely to be widespread this soon but the media has a responsibility to report these things to make people aware of it, at least to ensure they treat their products more carefully. Imagine if there was a widespread issue, people would 'say why didn't the media warn us as soon as they saw people having problems?'. You're damned if you do report it and damned if you don't.
I'm sorry Marvin. You have a point, but I don't share your willingness to try and explain the "responsibilities" of the media....whose mantra is : If it bleeds, it leads. That alone tells me everything I need to know about how "responsible" the news media is.
If anyone thinks the media reporting on this is some sort of genuine PSA they're smoking something. No this is 100% about clicks. 100% about trying to embarrass Apple because that brings page views. But Business Insider reported this morning that there are still lines outside some Apple stores so it might not be working,
Apple is doomed!
Give me any smartphone and I'll bend or brake with my hands, period. This whole thing is so lame.
This happens every time someone has a problem i.e 'I don't have the problem so you can't have the problem either'. It doesn't work like that...
What we know is that some people have bought iPhones for themselves and they're damaged.
This point is well-taken, in theory. But, do we really know that?
We know that one person, who clearly abused the phone, made a video
of himself doing so that has gained wide purchase.
He claims that it had already begun to bend from "normal" use...
but had it? Or was it "prepared" beforehand for the recorded abuse?
I can't tell how many reports of this phenomenon are simply retellings,
so I think we don't yet have a clear idea of whether it is a "normal use" or
an "intentional abuse" phenomenon.
We do know they may be damaged, we've no idea how or how many.
And so if the media has a 'responsibility' to spread the negative,
it is also essential for the 'Panzarino's' to come forward in counterpoint.
It's at least as valid as the fellow with the video 'coming forward'.
Note his phone was clearly bent before he started to purcposely bend it.
Remember when during Antennagate (ugh, I hate typing that) Apple showed us that impressive room they use for testing RF things? If I remember correctly it was a huge white spherical room like something out of X-Men (where Professor X goes to scan for mutants.) If there is an upside to this latest "scandal" maybe we'll get to see some impressive equipment that Apple uses to test the durability of their designs. Personally, I have no doubt that Apple engineers know exactly how much torque it takes to damage an iPhone and they factored that into the final design (balancing it against size, weight, battery capacity, hand feel, etc.). And they would say "yes we know that a strong guy who tries hard can deform the case; so don't do that."
RE: Bent iPhone 6....
Every smartphone (including just about every iPhone) has had this same issue....
http://www.cultofmac.com/297404/get-bent-shocking-history-bent-smartphones/
With every Apple release, somebody tries to find the critical flaw. This is starting to get really desperate.
"Bendgate"
Yeah, you're right, people acting in their self-interest usually ends badly. We should do everything possible to get them to act in the best interests of others.
They can obviously choose to ignore items they don't deem newsworthy but what's the criteria? Lack of evidence, unreliable sources etc. Multiple people are posting photos of their bent phones. The number is minuscule compared to shipped units so they shouldn't sensationalise it but some news networks are actually dismissing the problem by videoing themselves repeatedly sitting down on different chairs, which is at least entertaining.
That guy was doing a test in response to reports from users on Macrumors who posted photos of their warped iPhones:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1785905
There's about 6 users in the thread who reported warped phones. The test was just to see if it could be bent and what it would take in a short-term event. People aren't saying their iPhones are completely buckled like in the stress test, they are just askew after prolonged periods of time in their pockets. This scenario isn't possible to replicate easily. A newscaster can't possibly do a test like that for 18 hours. Maybe CNN I suppose but they'll need a whole array of different chairs and a virtual reality simulator of likely activities one might do in order to be sitting and standing such as a attend a virtual wedding, ride in a car and work in an office.
We know that one person, who clearly abused the phone, made a video
Note his phone was clearly bent before he started to purcposely bend it.
And note we have only his word for how it got that way...I think I referred to that, if obliquely.
We know that one person, who clearly abused the phone, made a video of himself doing so that has gained wide purchase.
That guy was doing a test in response to reports from users on Macrumors who posted photos of their warped iPhones:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1785905
There's about 6 users in the thread who reported warped phones.
Sorry, I'm naturally suspicious, and I wonder that the guy who just selflessly decides to do the test, who just selflessly
has a phone to give away to cement his glory and underscore his video,
just happens to already have an inadvertently, innocently bent phone of his own...
but, maybe.
Sure, but I think there are more than enough reports to assume that not everyone is purposely bending their iPhones then posting pics of them on the internet.