What I'd like to see is Apple actually partner with TV manufacturers with a standardized, open solution that allows an Apple TV unit to placed on the backside of the TV so that it interacts with the TV HW directly thus allowing one to bring up the Apple TV UI from within any input source that is currently active, as well as use the IR sensors, microphone(s), and camera(s) of the TV.
HDMI is 'open enough.' I think getting to HDMI 2.0 (well full support of HDMI-CEC Command Bus/response as specced under 1.3.c/1.4a) and supporting any Apple Extensions to the command set is all that is needed.
You can then daisy chain control of all your other devices through the TV (Send 'Rewind' to the VCR, Send Select Menu Option 2 to DVD, Turn up volume, and switch to Dolby 5.1 on Home Theater, etc).
If the TV fully supports HDMI CEC, and listens to multiple inputs (one for signal, another (ATV) for control), we're golden, without inventing a new spec... just driving the current spec to the edge of 'openness'
Couple this with advanced Airplay (Menu either on the screen or on your iPad/phone/pod... the latter is ideal for programming while others watch the content [my wife hates me surfing the cable menu while she's watching her show]), and you've got a solution.
The critical item (to me) is OTA/Cable signals. It would be magic to get the TV to get the signal, and Apple TV to recognize the source and then be able provide intelligent management of the content (oh, you're in Waverly MN, and using an Antenna... Channel 9.1 is KMSP-HD, 9.2 is KMSP-SD, 11.1 is KARE-HD, 11.2 KARE-WX, and here is their schedule, and interweave into search and management on the AppleTV)
Danish Top TV Designer Bang & Olufsen this year already introduced its 4k Beovision Avant with Apple TV integration as an option. Therefor I am axiously awaiting if the announced ATV update does include HEC compatibility fo enabling me to watch the expanding Netflix 4k assortment. Anybody news about this update...?
Yeah, $4000 for a 40-inch set. Pathetically ridiculous and out-of-touch.
Moreover, as a long-time B&O user (lots of their audio products all around my home) who used to absolutely **love**, even evangelize, their products, their new designs, connectivity options, levels of technological advancement, and most sadly, customer service, have all become quite sucky. Their remotes are an embarrassment.
It's too bad really. I don't think I'd go near one of their products ever again.
This would lead me to believe that "it's been way too long" means an AppleTV major redesign. Not sure if anyone else is having this problem, updating my iPad and iPhone to iOS 8 I can no longer mirror my devices using AppleTV. Can stream fine just can't mirror. Macs still mirror fine.
Note too that Philips no longer sells TV's in the USA.
Philips don't technically make or sell TVs at all any more. They sold most of the their TV business a couple of years ago and this year agreed to sell their remaining stake but have a licensing agreement for their name to be used.
At CES they were showing new TVs using Android so seems odd they would be hooking up with Apple too.
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Yup. The rumor made no sense.
Their news outlets are saying so.
LOL!
What I'd like to see is Apple actually partner with TV manufacturers with a standardized, open solution that allows an Apple TV unit to placed on the backside of the TV so that it interacts with the TV HW directly thus allowing one to bring up the Apple TV UI from within any input source that is currently active, as well as use the IR sensors, microphone(s), and camera(s) of the TV.
HDMI is 'open enough.' I think getting to HDMI 2.0 (well full support of HDMI-CEC Command Bus/response as specced under 1.3.c/1.4a) and supporting any Apple Extensions to the command set is all that is needed.
You can then daisy chain control of all your other devices through the TV (Send 'Rewind' to the VCR, Send Select Menu Option 2 to DVD, Turn up volume, and switch to Dolby 5.1 on Home Theater, etc).
If the TV fully supports HDMI CEC, and listens to multiple inputs (one for signal, another (ATV) for control), we're golden, without inventing a new spec... just driving the current spec to the edge of 'openness'
Couple this with advanced Airplay (Menu either on the screen or on your iPad/phone/pod... the latter is ideal for programming while others watch the content [my wife hates me surfing the cable menu while she's watching her show]), and you've got a solution.
The critical item (to me) is OTA/Cable signals. It would be magic to get the TV to get the signal, and Apple TV to recognize the source and then be able provide intelligent management of the content (oh, you're in Waverly MN, and using an Antenna... Channel 9.1 is KMSP-HD, 9.2 is KMSP-SD, 11.1 is KARE-HD, 11.2 KARE-WX, and here is their schedule, and interweave into search and management on the AppleTV)
Like i said....
Apple HomeCenter here we come.....
No that's not what you said. You said Apple was going to build it's own TV. This is what I said.
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http://www.bang-olufsen.com/nl/home-integration
http://www.beoplay.com/products/beoplayv1#at-a-glance
How is this different than what B&O offers already? They simply put the AppleTV in the back of their TV. A beautiful TV mind you
http://www.bang-olufsen.com/nl/home-integration
http://www.beoplay.com/products/beoplayv1#at-a-glance
If Philips is getting a generous discount on Apple TV units, then it's different.
Why does anyone care that a TV is bundled with a stand alone AppleTV?
If it was integrated AppleTV hardware I'd get it...but that would be a stupid move by Apple.
People will care if the bundle is priced significantly less than buying the two components separately.
I know right? AppleInsider attempted to verify the rumor
before publishing it.The forums are a virtual bullhorn for some people and their agendas.
How is this different than what B&O offers already? They simply put the AppleTV in the back of their TV. A beautiful TV mind you
http://www.bang-olufsen.com/nl/home-integration
http://www.beoplay.com/products/beoplayv1#at-a-glance
Yeah, $4000 for a 40-inch set. Pathetically ridiculous and out-of-touch.
Moreover, as a long-time B&O user (lots of their audio products all around my home) who used to absolutely **love**, even evangelize, their products, their new designs, connectivity options, levels of technological advancement, and most sadly, customer service, have all become quite sucky. Their remotes are an embarrassment.
It's too bad really. I don't think I'd go near one of their products ever again.
This would lead me to believe that "it's been way too long" means an AppleTV major redesign. Not sure if anyone else is having this problem, updating my iPad and iPhone to iOS 8 I can no longer mirror my devices using AppleTV. Can stream fine just can't mirror. Macs still mirror fine.
Note too that Philips no longer sells TV's in the USA.
Philips don't technically make or sell TVs at all any more. They sold most of the their TV business a couple of years ago and this year agreed to sell their remaining stake but have a licensing agreement for their name to be used.
At CES they were showing new TVs using Android so seems odd they would be hooking up with Apple too.
Way to add to the conversation!
Let's hope an update is revealed this month.
How?