Apple removes Cuba from restricted country trade list following changes by US government

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in General Discussion edited February 2015
Apple has removed Cuba from its restricted country list for foreign trade, reflecting the fact that some of its hardware and software are now legally eligible to be exported to the Caribbean country.


The U.S. Interests Section in Havana. Photograph by Eladio Orlando Garc?a P?rez.


Apple's new stance is in accordance with the U.S. Department of Commerce's Bureau of Industry and Security, which recently amended its Export Administration Regulations. The changes create an exception for Consumer Communication Devices, under a license entitled "Support For The Cuban People."

In addition, the Cuban Asset Control Regulations were also updated by the U.S. Department of the Treasury, authorizing export and reexports of items authorized by the BIS. The change to Apple's policies was first noted by Collin Anderson.

The relaxed government policies follow an announcement from President Barack Obama, who said in December that new rules easing the U.S. government's stance toward the communist nation of Cuba would take effect.

The new rules related to consumer electronics and software allow devices to be sold to Cuban government owned, operated, or controlled companies and corporations for resale to the Cuban people. U.S. companies can also provide services such as cloud storage, and support and services related to the use of hardware and software.

In compliance with ongoing U.S. embargoes, the nations of North Korea, Sudan and Syria remain prohibited destinations for Apple products. Certain restrictions also continue to exist in Iran.
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  • Reply 1 of 21
    The Castro brothers, Russia, Iran, Islamic militants including Al-Qaeda on the march toward a global Caliphate. For America's enemies, Barack Obama is the gift that keeps on giving.
  • Reply 2 of 21
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    macvicta wrote: »
    The Castro brothers, Russia, Iran, Islamic militants including Al-Qaeda on the march toward a global Caliphate. For America's enemies, Barack Obama is the gift that keeps on giving.

    This person's brain is going to explode in __minutes. Too bad. It should be studied.
  • Reply 3 of 21
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 15,309moderator
    macvicta wrote: »
    The Castro brothers, Russia, Iran, Islamic militants including Al-Qaeda on the march toward a global Caliphate. For America's enemies, Barack Obama is the gift that keeps on giving.

    Are you talking about current enemies or past enemies? Germany was an enemy at some point as was China, Korea, Vietnam. Generations move on and embargos are lifted because they don't have to suffer for what their ancestors did.
  • Reply 4 of 21
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post



    In compliance with ongoing U.S. embargoes, the nations of North Korea, Sudan and Syria remain prohibited destinations for Apple products. Certain restrictions also continue to exist in Iran.

    Russia and Ukraine including Crimea are also blocked by sanctions.

     

     

    Edit: Not Ukraine

  • Reply 5 of 21
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    Russia and Ukraine including Crimea are also blocked by sanctions.

     

     

     





    Ukarine is blocked? Where is this information from? I saw only the Crimea of Ukraine being blocked.

  • Reply 6 of 21
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    The Castro brothers, Russia, Iran, Islamic militants including Al-Qaeda on the march toward a global Caliphate. For America's enemies, Barack Obama is the gift that keeps on giving.

    Embargoes do absolutely NOTHING to those in power. It only hurts those that aren't. How long has this Cuban embargo been in place and what effect has it had on the current regime?

  • Reply 7 of 21
    newbeenewbee Posts: 2,055member
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    Originally Posted by Flaneur View Post





    This person's brain is going to explode in __minutes. Too bad. It should be studied.



    Studied??? for what? We already know what a vacuum is.

  • Reply 8 of 21
    No soup for you!
  • Reply 9 of 21
    newbee wrote: »

    Studied??? for what? We already know what a vacuum is.

    How precise a vacuum is the question.
  • Reply 10 of 21
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    Embargoes do absolutely NOTHING to those in power. It only hurts those that aren't. How long has this Cuban embargo been in place and what effect has it had on the current regime?




    I agree the embargo has been largely ineffective against the Communist regime and a better way to combat Communism is with free trade and by opening up their society and demonstrating to them how disastrously wrong the Castros have been for the Cuban people. Having said all that, it's up to Congress to change the laws, not the president.

  • Reply 11 of 21
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,053member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Amhran View Post

     

    Embargoes do absolutely NOTHING to those in power. It only hurts those that aren't. How long has this Cuban embargo been in place and what effect has it had on the current regime?


    So, their people can understand their stupid asz government and stand up for revolution or accept it to continue being poor. Their choice. At least now, they can own an iPhone...wait...They have to spend their 3 years salary to get one. Last time I heard an Engineer salary was ~$25/mo in Cuba.

  • Reply 12 of 21
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,053member
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    I agree the embargo has been largely ineffective against the Communist regime and a better way to combat Communism is with free trade and by opening up their society and demonstrating to them how disastrously wrong the Castros have been for the Cuban people. Having said all that, it's up to Congress to change the laws, not the president.


    BTW, Cuba is not communist, but Socialist. Only N. Korea, China and Vietnam are, and those countries have shitty human rights while government officials are legal robbers.

  • Reply 13 of 21
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,718member
    macvicta wrote: »
    The Castro brothers, Russia, Iran, Islamic militants including Al-Qaeda on the march toward a global Caliphate. For America's enemies, Barack Obama is the gift that keeps on giving.

    I can't wait to visit Cuba, many of my Canadian friends go there regularly, just like the rest of the world outside of the USA. I guess Fox Spews forgot to explain that to you.
  • Reply 14 of 21
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,718member
    fallenjt wrote: »
    So, their people can understand their stupid asz government and stand up for revolution or accept it to continue being poor. Their choice. At least now, they can own an iPhone...wait...They have to spend their 3 years salary to get one. Last time I heard an Engineer salary was ~$25/mo in Cuba.

    IMHO if Cuba had been opened up the same way North Vietnam was, the current regime would have crumbled years ago. If anything the US attitude has held up the Castro regime.
  • Reply 15 of 21
    anomeanome Posts: 1,533member
    Lets just take a moment to remember how wonderful Cuba was under Batista's military junta.
  • Reply 16 of 21
    elrothelroth Posts: 1,201member
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    Lets just take a moment to remember how wonderful Cuba was under Batista's military junta.



    It was certainly wonderful for American corporations, who repressed ordinary Cubans for money rather than for politics.

  • Reply 17 of 21
    elrothelroth Posts: 1,201member
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    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

     



    I agree the embargo has been largely ineffective against the Communist regime and a better way to combat Communism is with free trade and by opening up their society and demonstrating to them how disastrously wrong the Castros have been for the Cuban people. Having said all that, it's up to Congress to change the laws, not the president.




    There's a difference between laws and regulations.

    useriphonefromcuba
  • Reply 18 of 21
    anomeanome Posts: 1,533member
    elroth wrote: »

    It was certainly wonderful for American corporations, who repressed ordinary Cubans for money rather than for politics.
    And the mob. Which I suppose is really just another corporation.
  • Reply 19 of 21
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,718member

    I agree the embargo has been largely ineffective against the Communist regime and a better way to combat Communism is with free trade and by opening up their society and demonstrating to them how disastrously wrong the Castros have been for the Cuban people. Having said all that, it's up to Congress to change the laws, not the president.

    Agreed, but Congress seemed too preoccupied with the whims of those whose grandparents lost everything and wanted revenge. My grandparents' business was 'taken away' by post WWII nationalization in the UK. So I speak as someone in the same shoes as many Floridian Cuban exiles. My advice is get over it.
  • Reply 20 of 21
    dsddsd Posts: 186member
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    Originally Posted by Anome View Post





    And the mob. Which I suppose is really just another corporation.



    The mob is people, my friend.

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