Mods... step up and jettison this troll like a bad habit will ya? Hasn't it been obvious for a while that he's simply here to contaminate forums and provoke?
I do find the paradox interesting: donate to poor minority uneducated schools while producing products that those same folks generally cannot afford.
James Watson discovered quite some time ago that you can't correct IQ disparity with money. You might capture of few smart kids who otherwise would have "fallen through the cracks" but you won't save everyone.
How many people know folks that had great suburban education opportunities that squandered it? Was this a lack of funds? Or... Perhaps some kids are either not smart enough or modivated enough?
Why do we keep trying to solve genetic disparities with money? It doesn't work...
I shortened your post to get the gist of what you were pointing at. I hope I didn't distort it.
Education has far less to do with stuffing information into little minds and a lot more to do with drawing the little mind out to play...whatever kind of mind is in there. Except for those minds who are profoundly damaged, there is value to all of us because of all the way minds work. Creativity doesn't measure up well on an IQ test, nor does sensitivity and compassion. Yet we are all enriched by souls we encounter who have these other traits.
I cannot afford an IBM 360, but I love what an iPad can do for my creative mind. For some, it may be just enough to buy some water colors to do the same. There exists in most everyone a seed of greatness...or as Steve Jobs phrased it, a bit of madness. So, here's to the crazy ones... let's give their minds a chance for flight.
One company in every aspect of your life sounds very Big Brother-ish to me. Funny how you become what you once hated. Just keep staring at the 'big picture'.
Once the rest of tech world catches up to this One Big Company you either won't be concerned anymore or you will whine about a band of Big Brothers (maybe rightfully so), who have nothing else to offer that is any different from what this One Big Company is offering right now. That's the caveat of the leaders, at this point is's about you personally trusting their integrity or not. And if you don't - think about their business model and what do they have to gain [from you] - whether you are their customer vs. their product, that should address your concern.
Apple has the money to do things with their products while knowing that there will not be a monetary ROI (ResearchKit). But there will be an social ROI unseen by other short sight...
What sets them apart is - yes this looks like a leftist company, but they are actually doing things at their own expense (!!!) - this sets them apart from leftists, and makes the rightist proud
It's sad and pathetic but somehow makes sense that a depressing, critical and jaded Englishman would attack Apple and Tim Cook. After all the Brits are still pissed about having to give away their empire to this upstart USA! I have noticed how some English people have such a pompous. elitist attitude to the world in-bred for 1000's of years. All you have to do is watch certain episodes of Monty Python to see how they use satire to lampoon most of the typical stereotypes of British society which is probably the most cast ridden - still - in the world! You realize what it must like to be stuck in that class system? Ben obviously hates being stuck in it and I guess vents his frustration, venom and so forth by projecting his own "little Englander" prejudices onto anyone, or anything he likes, to make himself feel better. I keep thinking he must be very similar to Basil Fawlty in the way he treats people. I bet what few friends he has, think he is a total A.... That famous line in "A Fish called Wanda" where John Cleese is saying to Wanda "Do you realize what it is like being English?" - priceless LOL
WTF was all that vitriole about?
Where did that come from and WTF does that have to do with the subject being discussed here?
What a hate-filled, narrow minded, bigoted post.
You will notice I am refraining from disrespecting you personally and dragging it down into 'you Americans are all the same' type of post and comparing you to some of those US TV programmes out there.
Rarely if ever do I post on these threads/forums but when I read outrageous tripe like that I do wonder about the mentality of some people...<sigh>
Now I'm confused. I am always mild to moderately irritated by American publications putting "z's", in words that should have "s's", it's not just pedantry, it makes it more difficult to read. But now here is a word that clearly has a Z we all can agree on, but it's spelled with an 'S'.
One company in every aspect of your life sounds very Big Brother-ish to me. Funny how you become what you once hated. Just keep staring at the 'big picture'.
That is so unintelligent thing to say almost borderline on paranoid. It might be true if all of the products he's using are from Google though, I give you that.
It never ceases to amaze how those of my Apple friends on the left resort to charges of racism, "homophobia", or worse for those that happen to disagree with Cook's social and political agenda.
The real Libertarian Party also has left leaning wing (maybe not in this day & age). What escapes some people is that most people may hold different views on different issues and not necessarily tow the party line on all issues. John Huntsman was one of those politicians...a moderate. He also worked in the Obama Administration. Both made his candidacy dead in the water in todays Republican Party. Why do you suppose that is?
A month after dropping out of the race, Huntsman offered the opinion that there was a need for a third party in America. In an appearance on the MSNBC talk show Morning Joe on February 23, 2012, Huntsman said that a third party would be a healthy development in the presidential election process.
I think we’re going to have problems politically until we get some sort of third party movement or some voice out there that can put forth new ideas. Someone’s going to step up at some point and say we’ve had enough of this. The real issues are not being addressed and it’s time that we put forward an alternative vision, a bold thinking. We might not win, but we can certainly influence the debate.
Huntsman said he was not throwing his own hat in the ring as a third party presidential candidate in 2012.
The Republican National Committee reacted by withdrawing an invitation for Huntsman to appear as a speaker at a Republican fundraiser in Palm Beach, Florida, in early March. In early July, Huntsman announced that he would not be attending the 2012 Republican National Convention for the first time since he attended as a Reagan delegate in 1984. Huntsman issued a statement chiding the Republican Party for what he perceived as its failures to focus on the daunting socio-economic issues facing America.
I will not be attending this year's convention, nor any Republican convention in the future until the party focuses on a bigger, bolder, more confident future for the United States — a future based on problem solving, inclusiveness, and a willingness to address the trust deficit, which is every bit as corrosive as our fiscal and economic deficits.
The Reagan conservatives (which are now, even too "left" wing for the tea party) have completely destroyed the republican party. Once people that vote democrat could have thought of switching, but not now. Not only that. The conservatives have pulled the whole of the US to the right (even the democrats).
Huntsman doesn't fit at all in the current republican party.
I don'T really think there is real libertarian movement in the US of real significance; probably because such a movement comes with its lot of contradiction and obstacle to governance, BTW, whatever's attached to the republican certainly isn't it.
The current democrats are almost centre-right, only its left wing (which is mainly centre-left, with a very small fringe on the the left) is still in the spot they were at the onset of the Clinton era (part of the "new labor" current of the 1990s. That's why I actually laugh at anyone being called a socialist in the US.. There is no such thing!!
Very cheap shot. Slurpy gave you one of the best slapdowns of his career here.
I'd just add that Apple isn't forcing anyone to buy into their ecosystem. They're winning customers honestly by making stuff that people want and enjoy.
Once the rest of tech world catches up to this One Big Company you either won't be concerned anymore or you will whine about a band of Big Brothers (maybe rightfully so), who have nothing else to offer that is any different from what this One Big Company is offering right now. That's the caveat of the leaders, at this point is's about you personally trusting their integrity or not. And if you don't - think about their business model and what do they have to gain [from you] - whether you are their customer vs. their product, that should address your concern.
You have any evidence of Apple spying on people?
Any evidence of them selling your personal info and data?
What the **** is your point? But no, you're right, I should use 10 different operating systems and making sure my Laptop, tablet, phone, and every piece of technology I use is from a different manufacturer and incompatible with everything, making my life more difficult, because of some paranoia. How is taking advantage of continuity features "big brother? How is Carplay "big brother? Apple has earned my trust, more than a bunch of other random tech companies. And I know that if Apple fucks up, they will need to answer for it, and in a big way.
Yes, I will keep looking at the "big picture" You can continue to mock without saying anything of substance. It's pretty hilarious you seem to have a problem with Apple, when pretty much every single non-iPhone runs the exact same OS, created by an advertising company. Hilarious how you insinuate something, yet don't have the guts to be specific, because your point is entirely non-existent.
They might not be selling it, however they’re allowing third-parties to do so which is worse.
Cook is lying about the "perfect" hires. Affirmative action means hiring less-qualified minorites. Diversity means chasing down the last white person.
In other words women, and minorities are incapable of being similarly qualified? It must be, because everyone's view of affirmative action is always about hiring a less qualified woman, or minority.
The real Libertarian Party also has left leaning wing (maybe not in this day & age). What escapes some people is that most people may hold different views on different issues and not necessarily tow the party line on all issues. John Huntsman was one of those politicians...a moderate. He also worked in the Obama Administration. Both made his candidacy dead in the water in todays Republican Party. Why do you suppose that is?
<p style="color:rgb(37,37,37);margin-bottom:.5em;margin-top:.5em;">A month after dropping out of the race, Huntsman offered the opinion that there was a need for a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_party_(politics)" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Third party (politics)">third party</a>
in America. In an appearance on the MSNBC talk show <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_Joe" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Morning Joe">Morning Joe</a>
on February 23, 2012, Huntsman said that a third party would be a healthy development in the presidential election process.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:.5em;margin-top:.5em;">I think we’re going to have problems politically until we get some sort of third party movement or some voice out there that can put forth new ideas. Someone’s going to step up at some point and say we’ve had enough of this. The real issues are not being addressed and it’s time that we put forward an alternative vision, a bold thinking. We might not win, but we can certainly influence the debate.</p>
<p style="color:rgb(37,37,37);margin-bottom:.5em;margin-top:.5em;">Huntsman said he was not throwing his own hat in the ring as a third party presidential candidate in 2012.</p>
<p style="color:rgb(37,37,37);margin-bottom:.5em;margin-top:.5em;">The Republican National Committee reacted by withdrawing an invitation for Huntsman to appear as a speaker at a Republican fundraiser in Palm Beach, Florida, in early March. In early July, Huntsman announced that he would not be attending the 2012 Republican National <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Republican_National_Convention" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="2012 Republican National Convention">Convention</a>
for the first time since he attended as a Reagan delegate in 1984. Huntsman issued a statement chiding the Republican Party for what he perceived as its failures to focus on the daunting <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socio-economic" style="background-image:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);" target="_blank" title="Socio-economic">socio-economic</a>
issues facing America.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:.5em;margin-top:.5em;">I will not be attending this year's convention, nor any Republican convention in the future until the party focuses on a bigger, bolder, more confident future for the United States — a future based on problem solving, inclusiveness, and a willingness to address the trust deficit, which is every bit as corrosive as our fiscal and economic deficits.</p>
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Mods... step up and jettison this troll like a bad habit will ya? Hasn't it been obvious for a while that he's simply here to contaminate forums and provoke?
I shortened your post to get the gist of what you were pointing at. I hope I didn't distort it.
Education has far less to do with stuffing information into little minds and a lot more to do with drawing the little mind out to play...whatever kind of mind is in there. Except for those minds who are profoundly damaged, there is value to all of us because of all the way minds work. Creativity doesn't measure up well on an IQ test, nor does sensitivity and compassion. Yet we are all enriched by souls we encounter who have these other traits.
I cannot afford an IBM 360, but I love what an iPad can do for my creative mind. For some, it may be just enough to buy some water colors to do the same. There exists in most everyone a seed of greatness...or as Steve Jobs phrased it, a bit of madness. So, here's to the crazy ones... let's give their minds a chance for flight.
Once the rest of tech world catches up to this One Big Company you either won't be concerned anymore or you will whine about a band of Big Brothers (maybe rightfully so), who have nothing else to offer that is any different from what this One Big Company is offering right now. That's the caveat of the leaders, at this point is's about you personally trusting their integrity or not. And if you don't - think about their business model and what do they have to gain [from you] - whether you are their customer vs. their product, that should address your concern.
What sets them apart is - yes this looks like a leftist company, but they are actually doing things at their own expense (!!!) - this sets them apart from leftists, and makes the rightist proud
WTF was all that vitriole about?
Where did that come from and WTF does that have to do with the subject being discussed here?
What a hate-filled, narrow minded, bigoted post.
You will notice I am refraining from disrespecting you personally and dragging it down into 'you Americans are all the same' type of post and comparing you to some of those US TV programmes out there.
Rarely if ever do I post on these threads/forums but when I read outrageous tripe like that I do wonder about the mentality of some people...<sigh>
And he’s off on one of his classic tirades based on absolutely nothing.
Now I'm confused. I am always mild to moderately irritated by American publications putting "z's", in words that should have "s's", it's not just pedantry, it makes it more difficult to read. But now here is a word that clearly has a Z we all can agree on, but it's spelled with an 'S'.
That is so unintelligent thing to say almost borderline on paranoid. It might be true if all of the products he's using are from Google though, I give you that.
If anything Apple is more like Big Mother.
It never ceases to amaze how those of my Apple friends on the left resort to charges of racism, "homophobia", or worse for those that happen to disagree with Cook's social and political agenda.
It’s clear that Cook is in the wrong job.
He wants to be a politician.
No he does not.
The real Libertarian Party also has left leaning wing (maybe not in this day & age). What escapes some people is that most people may hold different views on different issues and not necessarily tow the party line on all issues. John Huntsman was one of those politicians...a moderate. He also worked in the Obama Administration. Both made his candidacy dead in the water in todays Republican Party. Why do you suppose that is?
A month after dropping out of the race, Huntsman offered the opinion that there was a need for a third party in America. In an appearance on the MSNBC talk show Morning Joe on February 23, 2012, Huntsman said that a third party would be a healthy development in the presidential election process.
Huntsman said he was not throwing his own hat in the ring as a third party presidential candidate in 2012.
The Republican National Committee reacted by withdrawing an invitation for Huntsman to appear as a speaker at a Republican fundraiser in Palm Beach, Florida, in early March. In early July, Huntsman announced that he would not be attending the 2012 Republican National Convention for the first time since he attended as a Reagan delegate in 1984. Huntsman issued a statement chiding the Republican Party for what he perceived as its failures to focus on the daunting socio-economic issues facing America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Huntsman,_Jr.
The Reagan conservatives (which are now, even too "left" wing for the tea party) have completely destroyed the republican party. Once people that vote democrat could have thought of switching, but not now. Not only that. The conservatives have pulled the whole of the US to the right (even the democrats).
Huntsman doesn't fit at all in the current republican party.
I don'T really think there is real libertarian movement in the US of real significance; probably because such a movement comes with its lot of contradiction and obstacle to governance, BTW, whatever's attached to the republican certainly isn't it.
The current democrats are almost centre-right, only its left wing (which is mainly centre-left, with a very small fringe on the the left) is still in the spot they were at the onset of the Clinton era (part of the "new labor" current of the 1990s. That's why I actually laugh at anyone being called a socialist in the US.. There is no such thing!!
When was anybody forced to do anything?
Really? Who's going to catch up?
They might not be selling it, however they’re allowing third-parties to do so which is worse.
http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/185074/apple-to-reportedly-bolster-iad-user-targeting-with-phone-numbers-and-emails
In other words women, and minorities are incapable of being similarly qualified? It must be, because everyone's view of affirmative action is always about hiring a less qualified woman, or minority.
You're confused. Huntsman SENIOR is not Huntsman JUNIOR. Junior is a leftist.