Considering the intent to likely resell, I'm thinking the sport model is the worst investment. With a glass crystal, and aluminum case, I'm not expecting it to hold up very well to extensive use. Unlike an iPhone that usually gets carried in a case, so as to be virtually brand new-looking upon resale. For that purpose the basic stainless is probably warranted.
I look at it as an experiment. I take really good care of my gadgets so it will likely be in near flawless condition after a year. I don't know why I even said I would resell it. I always give my old iPhones and iPads to someone who needs it, like a relative, employee or family friend. I keep the packaging so even if it is slightly used I can still make it a nice gift for someone. Last Christmas I gave my friend's niece my old iPhone. It was in pristine condition and she loves it. I didn't wrap it or anything and told her it was my old phone.
Learn something, kids: having a different opinion does not mean being a "troll". I love Macs and iPhones, but I hate the AWatch, the Beats purchase and the idiotic decision to distribute dividends.
Get it or is this still too difficult?
How the **** is it "idiotic" to reward shareholder and motivate them to keep the stock? You must be the only person on the planet with that "opinion", and for being so alone in it, you're certainly confident of Apple's "idiocy" in the matter. Your jealousy and spite towards shareholders, who had the insight to invest (unlike you) is hilarious and so, so pathetic.
And sorry, you're completely full of it. It's not a fine line between trolling and a thoughtful opinion, it's the grand canyon, and you're very comfortably on the other side. It's one thing to say you're not interested in buying the Watch, once or twice. It's another to go into EVERY SINGLE APPLE WATCH THREAD and shove your "opinion" down everyone's throat, as if it's an absolute fact, ad nauseum, as if Apple is forcing you to buy every single product they make. There's many Apple products I don't care about or don't need, yet I don't go into every thread and throw bile at them. Your most recent posts are below- not a single positive one, even on any other topic. It's amazing you think that people who get tired of your thousands of hateful posts and call your posts "stupid ass" deserve to be banned, yet you, who makes this forum worse for everyone with your incessant hatred of everything Apple, doesn't.
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Apple users used to be more demanding than this, I will give you that. But since Boot Camp was launched, we end up seeing heresies like buying a Mac to use Winblows...so no surprises anymore.
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Absolutely correct. Yields or not, I am not buying that piece of fugly anyway.
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What is already ugly and bulky becomes even uglier and bulkier.
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By the way, today Reuters announced the results of a US poll that shows 70% of respondents are not interested in the AWatch...
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In fact, Apple seems to be doing everything wrong these days. As noted above, the ridiculous "erase history" option is practically useless now, as it forces you to remove cookies as well. The outcome? Having to retype your password whenever subscribed/protected sites are visited after that option is used.Pathetic.
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You mean Tim Cook? He should be replaced forthwith, or at least go back to his COO position.
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I must say, Mr Cook is trying REALLY hard to sell that thing - but no matter how many magazine covers and how many models, it still looks terribly bulky and ugly on anyone with a normal or smaller wrist; what a ridiculous design by Jony Ive
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Indeed. And if it flops like we anticipate, this will be the beginning of the Michael Spindler era at Apple, Take Two.
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Exactly right - "battery saving mode" is another name for "we have failed to achieve the desired breakthrough"; can't remotely imagine SJ settling with such a kludgy compromise.Still bulky, still fugly, still battery-weak and quickly obsolete, no matter how many Vogue covers they pay for.What about focusing on Macs again, Apple?
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What strikes me as odd is the sheer amount of pre-publicity that Apple is making for the FUGLY AWatch - as if it really needed such a push to justify its existence.J
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Let's just hope it's not only about the fugly and underwhelming AWatch - instead, let it be about a revamped nMP as well.
If it’s like past products, then midnight seems likely.
And if you're keen to see the time accurately, just check the clock that comes preinstalled on your iPhone, iPad or Mac, and you can decide whether to order another $17,000 clock to supplement the ones you already have. " src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
Learn something, kids: having a different opinion does not mean being a "troll". I love Macs and iPhones, but I hate the AWatch, the Beats purchase and the idiotic decision to distribute dividends.
Get it or is this still too difficult?
How the **** is it "idiotic" to reward shareholder and motivate them to keep the stock? You must be the only person on the planet with that "opinion", and for being so alone in it, you're certainly confident of Apple's "idiocy" in the matter. Your jealousy and spite towards shareholders, who had the insight to invest (unlike you) is hilarious and so, so pathetic.
And sorry, you're completely full of it. It's not a fine line between trolling and a thoughtful opinion, it's the grand canyon, and you're very comfortably on the other side. It's one thing to say you're not interested in buying the Watch, once or twice. It's another to go into EVERY SINGLE APPLE WATCH THREAD and shove your "opinion" down everyone's throat, as if it's an absolute fact, ad nauseum, as if Apple is forcing you to buy every single product they make. There's many Apple products I don't care about or don't need, yet I don't go into every thread and throw bile at them. Your most recent posts are below- not a single positive one, even on any other topic. It's amazing you think that people who get tired of your thousands of hateful posts and call your posts "stupid ass" deserve to be banned, yet you, who makes this forum worse for everyone with your incessant hatred of everything Apple, doesn't.
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Apple users used to be more demanding than this, I will give you that. But since Boot Camp was launched, we end up seeing heresies like buying a Mac to use Winblows...so no surprises anymore.
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Absolutely correct. Yields or not, I am not buying that piece of fugly anyway.
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What is already ugly and bulky becomes even uglier and bulkier.
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By the way, today Reuters announced the results of a US poll that shows 70% of respondents are not interested in the AWatch...
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In fact, Apple seems to be doing everything wrong these days. As noted above, the ridiculous "erase history" option is practically useless now, as it forces you to remove cookies as well. The outcome? Having to retype your password whenever subscribed/protected sites are visited after that option is used.Pathetic.
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You mean Tim Cook? He should be replaced forthwith, or at least go back to his COO position.
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I must say, Mr Cook is trying REALLY hard to sell that thing - but no matter how many magazine covers and how many models, it still looks terribly bulky and ugly on anyone with a normal or smaller wrist; what a ridiculous design by Jony Ive
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Indeed. And if it flops like we anticipate, this will be the beginning of the Michael Spindler era at Apple, Take Two.
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Exactly right - "battery saving mode" is another name for "we have failed to achieve the desired breakthrough"; can't remotely imagine SJ settling with such a kludgy compromise.Still bulky, still fugly, still battery-weak and quickly obsolete, no matter how many Vogue covers they pay for.What about focusing on Macs again, Apple?
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What strikes me as odd is the sheer amount of pre-publicity that Apple is making for the FUGLY AWatch - as if it really needed such a push to justify its existence.J
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Let's just hope it's not only about the fugly and underwhelming AWatch - instead, let it be about a revamped nMP as well.
Thanks for reposting these quotes, Slurpy; it’s good to see brlawyer's many words of wisdom in one place.
What you don't understand is that criticism is a good thing. It means that people can learn from their mistakes—in this case, Apple—and try and improve.
Steve Jobs hated the idea of a dividend, which is why he never allowed one. He may have been over-cautious, due to the dark days when Apple had relatively little cash and were reliant too much on the help of others. But it is also the sign of a high-growth company that there is no dividend. Whilst Apple's growth last quarter was stellar, that hasn't been the trend for the past three years. Unless they can keep the growth well beyond 20% for a year or more, it looks as though Apple is settling down into a low-growth ethos; hence, the dividend.
There is no-one who looks out for Apple's well-being more than people like brlawyer and me. It’s the Yes-men like you who would drive Apple into the ground, because you would never question anything. You would be a thousand Yes's for every No, rather than a thousand No's for every Yes. Alas, Apple appear to have increased their ratio of Yes's to No's, which is exciting for company morale in the short-run, but liable to lead to long-term pain.
When you say "stupid ass" and offend others, you break the forum rules.
Now guess who should be banned?
Learn something, kids: having a different opinion does not mean being a "troll". I love Macs and iPhones, but I hate the AWatch, the Beats purchase and the idiotic decision to distribute dividends.
Get it or is this still too difficult?
It astonishes me the mods around here like to delete posts of true Apple fans, and keep the posts of people like you...
Weren't you banned before, "Slurpy"? You keep breaking forum rules when offending others...how can you still be around?
Each time he get's banned, we lose a voice for someone who stands up to crap from people like you and BF, and it makes me shake my head in disgust the mods would side with you.
And I now see both BF and BR (two trolling buddies) have been allowed to take over this thread, how predictable on the part of the mods... This place is going the way of 9to5Mac and MacRumours, I swear...
I'm pleased to see that the moderators exercise due discretion; it's one of the better aspects of Apple Insider, and helps to keep the forums civilised and high quality.
I wonder if we can start a petition here to get Frost banned. I think if we get enough users we could. I think if we get close to a hundred users we could.
Frost is in for AI good business. Looks how many of us already mentioned his post so far in this one topic. Add to blocked list is what I do.
What you don't understand is that criticism is a good thing. It means that people can learn from their mistakes—in this case, Apple—and try and improve.
Steve Jobs hated the idea of a dividend, which is why he never allowed one. He may have been over-cautious, due to the dark days when Apple had relatively little cash and were reliant too much on the help of others. But it is also the sign of a high-growth company that there is no dividend. Whilst Apple's growth last quarter was stellar, that hasn't been the trend for the past three years. Unless they can keep the growth well beyond 20% for a year or more, it looks as though Apple is settling down into a low-growth ethos; hence, the dividend.
The "criticism" you both are spewing is borderline ridicule towards Apple, its CEO and lead designer, and can be taken as no way other than inflammatory. On a pro-Apple forum, your derogatory comments will only be taken one way, and it won't be pretty. NOTHING will get debated or accomplished and it makes for a 9to5Mac kind of comment arena.
Maybe so much hate wouldn't be directed towards you if you would show some tact with you "criticism" and post more like an adult rather than a snotty-nosed teen willing to say anything just for attention. Give respect, you'll get respect in return.
BTW….Steve Jobs was FAR from perfect. He was also against dividends because they robbed much needed funds from a company that had stagnated and was on life support. Apple paid a dividend until Nov. 1995. By then they were hurting and management should've pulled the plug on dividends much earlier to preserve cash for the future. If they did, Apple probably wouldn't have "needed" the $150MM from Mr. Gates.
Apple now "keeps their powder dry" and makes very prudent financial decisions about putting their hoards of cash to good use through stock buy-backs and dividends. Between buy-backs, dividends and R&D, they've done a brilliant job generating enough cash flow to fund all of them, handsomely, and still bank a solid chunk of change. I don't know what you're looking at, but, by all accounts, Apple, who once was a big-block V-8 firing on all cylinders 5 years ago, is now a screaming juggernaut V-12……..with inter-cooled twin turbochargers.
No true Android fan wants Apple Watch to fail, because it would legitimize the whole wearables market, and open the flood gates for Android and/or Tizen watches to copy Apple's best ideas and sell it more cheaply (assuming $350 is expensive for something that can do so much). So far, the Android Wear business can't even move a million watches a year. Apple Watch selling 1.5 million a month would blow those door wide open, and Google wouldn't be able to limit Wear to just notifications.
I look at it as an experiment. I take really good care of my gadgets so it will likely be in near flawless condition after a year. I don't know why I even said I would resell it. I always give my old iPhones and iPads to someone who needs it, like a relative, employee or family friend. I keep the packaging so even if it is slightly used I can still make it a nice gift for someone. Last Christmas I gave my friend's niece my old iPhone. It was in pristine condition and she loves it. I didn't wrap it or anything and told her it was my old phone.
You can buy an ?WATCH rubber bumper from ActionProof for $20. Protects it fully. Black, White or Orange.
Perhaps, haven't made a final decision yet. I was initially leaning toward passing on this one since I don't wear watches and it is sort of ugly in my opinion, however if I do get one it will be the sport model. I'd rather have next year's thinner and lighter version, but if other Apple products are any guide, I would be able to resell V1 for a pretty good price anyway, so it not such a risk. I would definitely not buy the more expensive models because they don't offer any additional features like there is between the high end and low end of other Apple products.
How is scratch resistant sapphire crystal not an additional feature of the non-sport versions? polished SS is also a feature in my book..
No true Android fan wants Apple Watch to fail, because it would legitimize the whole wearables market, and open the flood gates for Android and/or Tizen watches to copy Apple's best ideas and sell it more cheaply (assuming $350 is expensive for something that can do so much). So far, the Android Wear business can't even move a million watches a year. Apple Watch selling 1.5 million a month would blow those door wide open, and Google wouldn't be able to limit Wear to just notifications.
Google, Samsung, and all the Chinese-knockoff makers are warming up their copy machines in anticipation of copying every aspect of the AppleWatch. Apple is the world's R&D lab, and the competitors have no shame stealing all that Apple cranks out of its labs.
What you don't understand is that criticism is a good thing. It means that people can learn from their mistakes—in this case, Apple—and try and improve.
Steve Jobs hated the idea of a dividend, which is why he never allowed one. He may have been over-cautious, due to the dark days when Apple had relatively little cash and were reliant too much on the help of others. But it is also the sign of a high-growth company that there is no dividend. Whilst Apple's growth last quarter was stellar, that hasn't been the trend for the past three years. Unless they can keep the growth well beyond 20% for a year or more, it looks as though Apple is settling down into a low-growth ethos; hence, the dividend.
The "criticism" you both are spewing is borderline ridicule towards Apple, its CEO and lead designer, and can be taken as no way other than inflammatory. On a pro-Apple forum, your derogatory comments will only be taken one way, and it won't be pretty. NOTHING will get debated or accomplished and it makes for a 9to5Mac kind of comment arena.
Maybe so much hate wouldn't be directed towards you if you would show some tact with you "criticism" and post more like an adult rather than a snotty-nosed teen willing to say anything just for attention. Give respect, you'll get respect in return.
BTW….Steve Jobs was FAR from perfect. He was also against dividends because they robbed much needed funds from a company that had stagnated and was on life support. Apple paid a dividend until Nov. 1995. By then they were hurting and management should've pulled the plug on dividends much earlier to preserve cash for the future. If they did, Apple probably wouldn't have "needed" the $150MM from Mr. Gates.
Apple now "keeps their powder dry" and makes very prudent financial decisions about putting their hoards of cash to good use through stock buy-backs and dividends. Between buy-backs, dividends and R&D, they've done a brilliant job generating enough cash flow to fund all of them, handsomely, and still bank a solid chunk of change. I don't know what you're looking at, but, by all accounts, Apple, who once was a big-block V-8 firing on all cylinders 5 years ago, is now a screaming juggernaut V-12……..with inter-cooled twin turbochargers.
I confess to being somewhat ashamed of my borderline ridicule, which I'm afraid is due to my innate politeness.
Ridicule is good. Your comment about constructive criticism is fine on a one to one basis, but this is the real world, sonny. If Apple cocks up, one is inclined to be scathing because they should know better.
Steve Jobs had a fine history of speaking his mind in no uncertain terms. I recall his utter ridicule of Apple products when he returned there; I can't imagine most would have called it constructive criticism, but it sure was justified.
Your little personal jabs at me make you no better than the lost souls who can't handle criticism of Apple here. I have no desire for attention whatsoever, other than the positive kind.
Let's not forget that Apple's current riches are ultimately thanks to Steve Jobs for creating the iPhone. We have to hope that Apple can keep the ASPs as high as possible, because once they start to freefall, those profits will, too. There won't be another product category to replace it; certainly not the Apple Watch.
Google, Samsung, and all the Chinese-knockoff makers are warming up their copy machines in anticipation of copying every aspect of the AppleWatch. Apple is the world's R&D lab, and the competitors have no shame stealing all that Apple cranks out of its labs.
The gold Edition is already knocked-off and being sold in stores and the ?Watch hasn't even hit the streets yet ...
"I hope it does come, and we should pursue it because it is about scientific exploring," Mr Wozniak said. "But in the end we just may have created the species that is above us."
What a complete idiot. Computers do not have a soul - a computer chip is after all simply a passive device. it simply obeys instructions and this kind of quote illustrates the sheer stupidity of people who have no understanding of higher life forms. Even if a computer could be designed to navigate or even answer questions , it still can never conceptualize based on precepts or have a imagination or ideas. Computer nerds really have no clue and have been watching and reading too much sci-fi.
How is scratch resistant sapphire crystal not an additional feature of the non-sport versions? polished SS is also a feature in my book..
I suppose so but I was referring to capability. For example when you look at the iPhone line you can choose to have more storage, better camera, larger screen, etc. which gives you more capabilities, more functionality. All ?Watches function the same and since it is just an experiment for me and v1 product release, I don't want to spend a lot just to try it out. I'm sure I will be done with it in a year's time anyway. I'll either upgrade to the latest version or bail on it altogether.
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Considering the intent to likely resell, I'm thinking the sport model is the worst investment. With a glass crystal, and aluminum case, I'm not expecting it to hold up very well to extensive use. Unlike an iPhone that usually gets carried in a case, so as to be virtually brand new-looking upon resale. For that purpose the basic stainless is probably warranted.
I look at it as an experiment. I take really good care of my gadgets so it will likely be in near flawless condition after a year. I don't know why I even said I would resell it. I always give my old iPhones and iPads to someone who needs it, like a relative, employee or family friend. I keep the packaging so even if it is slightly used I can still make it a nice gift for someone. Last Christmas I gave my friend's niece my old iPhone. It was in pristine condition and she loves it. I didn't wrap it or anything and told her it was my old phone.
Learn something, kids: having a different opinion does not mean being a "troll". I love Macs and iPhones, but I hate the AWatch, the Beats purchase and the idiotic decision to distribute dividends.
Get it or is this still too difficult?
How the **** is it "idiotic" to reward shareholder and motivate them to keep the stock? You must be the only person on the planet with that "opinion", and for being so alone in it, you're certainly confident of Apple's "idiocy" in the matter. Your jealousy and spite towards shareholders, who had the insight to invest (unlike you) is hilarious and so, so pathetic.
And sorry, you're completely full of it. It's not a fine line between trolling and a thoughtful opinion, it's the grand canyon, and you're very comfortably on the other side. It's one thing to say you're not interested in buying the Watch, once or twice. It's another to go into EVERY SINGLE APPLE WATCH THREAD and shove your "opinion" down everyone's throat, as if it's an absolute fact, ad nauseum, as if Apple is forcing you to buy every single product they make. There's many Apple products I don't care about or don't need, yet I don't go into every thread and throw bile at them. Your most recent posts are below- not a single positive one, even on any other topic. It's amazing you think that people who get tired of your thousands of hateful posts and call your posts "stupid ass" deserve to be banned, yet you, who makes this forum worse for everyone with your incessant hatred of everything Apple, doesn't.
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Apple users used to be more demanding than this, I will give you that. But since Boot Camp was launched, we end up seeing heresies like buying a Mac to use Winblows...so no surprises anymore.
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Absolutely correct. Yields or not, I am not buying that piece of fugly anyway.
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What is already ugly and bulky becomes even uglier and bulkier.
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By the way, today Reuters announced the results of a US poll that shows 70% of respondents are not interested in the AWatch...
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In fact, Apple seems to be doing everything wrong these days. As noted above, the ridiculous "erase history" option is practically useless now, as it forces you to remove cookies as well. The outcome? Having to retype your password whenever subscribed/protected sites are visited after that option is used.Pathetic.
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You mean Tim Cook? He should be replaced forthwith, or at least go back to his COO position.
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I must say, Mr Cook is trying REALLY hard to sell that thing - but no matter how many magazine covers and how many models, it still looks terribly bulky and ugly on anyone with a normal or smaller wrist; what a ridiculous design by Jony Ive
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Indeed. And if it flops like we anticipate, this will be the beginning of the Michael Spindler era at Apple, Take Two.
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Exactly right - "battery saving mode" is another name for "we have failed to achieve the desired breakthrough"; can't remotely imagine SJ settling with such a kludgy compromise.Still bulky, still fugly, still battery-weak and quickly obsolete, no matter how many Vogue covers they pay for.What about focusing on Macs again, Apple?
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What strikes me as odd is the sheer amount of pre-publicity that Apple is making for the FUGLY AWatch - as if it really needed such a push to justify its existence.J
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Let's just hope it's not only about the fugly and underwhelming AWatch - instead, let it be about a revamped nMP as well.
If it’s like past products, then midnight seems likely.
And if you're keen to see the time accurately, just check the clock that comes preinstalled on your iPhone, iPad or Mac, and you can decide whether to order another $17,000 clock to supplement the ones you already have.
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How'd I know I get trolled in an answer...
Learn something, kids: having a different opinion does not mean being a "troll". I love Macs and iPhones, but I hate the AWatch, the Beats purchase and the idiotic decision to distribute dividends.
Get it or is this still too difficult?
How the **** is it "idiotic" to reward shareholder and motivate them to keep the stock? You must be the only person on the planet with that "opinion", and for being so alone in it, you're certainly confident of Apple's "idiocy" in the matter. Your jealousy and spite towards shareholders, who had the insight to invest (unlike you) is hilarious and so, so pathetic.
And sorry, you're completely full of it. It's not a fine line between trolling and a thoughtful opinion, it's the grand canyon, and you're very comfortably on the other side. It's one thing to say you're not interested in buying the Watch, once or twice. It's another to go into EVERY SINGLE APPLE WATCH THREAD and shove your "opinion" down everyone's throat, as if it's an absolute fact, ad nauseum, as if Apple is forcing you to buy every single product they make. There's many Apple products I don't care about or don't need, yet I don't go into every thread and throw bile at them. Your most recent posts are below- not a single positive one, even on any other topic. It's amazing you think that people who get tired of your thousands of hateful posts and call your posts "stupid ass" deserve to be banned, yet you, who makes this forum worse for everyone with your incessant hatred of everything Apple, doesn't.
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Apple users used to be more demanding than this, I will give you that. But since Boot Camp was launched, we end up seeing heresies like buying a Mac to use Winblows...so no surprises anymore.
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Absolutely correct. Yields or not, I am not buying that piece of fugly anyway.
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What is already ugly and bulky becomes even uglier and bulkier.
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By the way, today Reuters announced the results of a US poll that shows 70% of respondents are not interested in the AWatch...
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In fact, Apple seems to be doing everything wrong these days. As noted above, the ridiculous "erase history" option is practically useless now, as it forces you to remove cookies as well. The outcome? Having to retype your password whenever subscribed/protected sites are visited after that option is used.Pathetic.
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You mean Tim Cook? He should be replaced forthwith, or at least go back to his COO position.
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I must say, Mr Cook is trying REALLY hard to sell that thing - but no matter how many magazine covers and how many models, it still looks terribly bulky and ugly on anyone with a normal or smaller wrist; what a ridiculous design by Jony Ive
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Indeed. And if it flops like we anticipate, this will be the beginning of the Michael Spindler era at Apple, Take Two.
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Exactly right - "battery saving mode" is another name for "we have failed to achieve the desired breakthrough"; can't remotely imagine SJ settling with such a kludgy compromise.Still bulky, still fugly, still battery-weak and quickly obsolete, no matter how many Vogue covers they pay for.What about focusing on Macs again, Apple?
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What strikes me as odd is the sheer amount of pre-publicity that Apple is making for the FUGLY AWatch - as if it really needed such a push to justify its existence.J
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Let's just hope it's not only about the fugly and underwhelming AWatch - instead, let it be about a revamped nMP as well.
Thanks for reposting these quotes, Slurpy; it’s good to see brlawyer's many words of wisdom in one place.
What you don't understand is that criticism is a good thing. It means that people can learn from their mistakes—in this case, Apple—and try and improve.
Steve Jobs hated the idea of a dividend, which is why he never allowed one. He may have been over-cautious, due to the dark days when Apple had relatively little cash and were reliant too much on the help of others. But it is also the sign of a high-growth company that there is no dividend. Whilst Apple's growth last quarter was stellar, that hasn't been the trend for the past three years. Unless they can keep the growth well beyond 20% for a year or more, it looks as though Apple is settling down into a low-growth ethos; hence, the dividend.
There is no-one who looks out for Apple's well-being more than people like brlawyer and me. It’s the Yes-men like you who would drive Apple into the ground, because you would never question anything. You would be a thousand Yes's for every No, rather than a thousand No's for every Yes. Alas, Apple appear to have increased their ratio of Yes's to No's, which is exciting for company morale in the short-run, but liable to lead to long-term pain.
It astonishes me the mods around here like to delete posts of true Apple fans, and keep the posts of people like you...
Each time he get's banned, we lose a voice for someone who stands up to crap from people like you and BF, and it makes me shake my head in disgust the mods would side with you.
I wonder if we can start a petition here to get Frost banned. I think if we get enough users we could. I think if we get close to a hundred users we could.
Frost is in for AI good business. Looks how many of us already mentioned his post so far in this one topic. Add to blocked list is what I do.
What you don't understand is that criticism is a good thing. It means that people can learn from their mistakes—in this case, Apple—and try and improve.
Steve Jobs hated the idea of a dividend, which is why he never allowed one. He may have been over-cautious, due to the dark days when Apple had relatively little cash and were reliant too much on the help of others. But it is also the sign of a high-growth company that there is no dividend. Whilst Apple's growth last quarter was stellar, that hasn't been the trend for the past three years. Unless they can keep the growth well beyond 20% for a year or more, it looks as though Apple is settling down into a low-growth ethos; hence, the dividend.
Constructive criticism is a good thing.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/constructive criticism?s=t
The "criticism" you both are spewing is borderline ridicule towards Apple, its CEO and lead designer, and can be taken as no way other than inflammatory. On a pro-Apple forum, your derogatory comments will only be taken one way, and it won't be pretty. NOTHING will get debated or accomplished and it makes for a 9to5Mac kind of comment arena.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ridicule?s=t
Maybe so much hate wouldn't be directed towards you if you would show some tact with you "criticism" and post more like an adult rather than a snotty-nosed teen willing to say anything just for attention. Give respect, you'll get respect in return.
BTW….Steve Jobs was FAR from perfect. He was also against dividends because they robbed much needed funds from a company that had stagnated and was on life support. Apple paid a dividend until Nov. 1995. By then they were hurting and management should've pulled the plug on dividends much earlier to preserve cash for the future. If they did, Apple probably wouldn't have "needed" the $150MM from Mr. Gates.
Apple now "keeps their powder dry" and makes very prudent financial decisions about putting their hoards of cash to good use through stock buy-backs and dividends. Between buy-backs, dividends and R&D, they've done a brilliant job generating enough cash flow to fund all of them, handsomely, and still bank a solid chunk of change. I don't know what you're looking at, but, by all accounts, Apple, who once was a big-block V-8 firing on all cylinders 5 years ago, is now a screaming juggernaut V-12……..with inter-cooled twin turbochargers.
You can buy an ?WATCH rubber bumper from ActionProof for $20. Protects it fully. Black, White or Orange. Google it.
Thanks. Looks nice but I'll wait for it to show up in the Apple Store. I'm not going to pre-order a crowd funded product.
I'm getting two, so I've got you covered.
See you on your next negative post on any given topic...
How is scratch resistant sapphire crystal not an additional feature of the non-sport versions? polished SS is also a feature in my book..
No true Android fan wants Apple Watch to fail, because it would legitimize the whole wearables market, and open the flood gates for Android and/or Tizen watches to copy Apple's best ideas and sell it more cheaply (assuming $350 is expensive for something that can do so much). So far, the Android Wear business can't even move a million watches a year. Apple Watch selling 1.5 million a month would blow those door wide open, and Google wouldn't be able to limit Wear to just notifications.
Google, Samsung, and all the Chinese-knockoff makers are warming up their copy machines in anticipation of copying every aspect of the AppleWatch. Apple is the world's R&D lab, and the competitors have no shame stealing all that Apple cranks out of its labs.
I confess to being somewhat ashamed of my borderline ridicule, which I'm afraid is due to my innate politeness.
Ridicule is good. Your comment about constructive criticism is fine on a one to one basis, but this is the real world, sonny. If Apple cocks up, one is inclined to be scathing because they should know better.
Steve Jobs had a fine history of speaking his mind in no uncertain terms. I recall his utter ridicule of Apple products when he returned there; I can't imagine most would have called it constructive criticism, but it sure was justified.
Your little personal jabs at me make you no better than the lost souls who can't handle criticism of Apple here. I have no desire for attention whatsoever, other than the positive kind.
Let's not forget that Apple's current riches are ultimately thanks to Steve Jobs for creating the iPhone. We have to hope that Apple can keep the ASPs as high as possible, because once they start to freefall, those profits will, too. There won't be another product category to replace it; certainly not the Apple Watch.
The gold Edition is already knocked-off and being sold in stores and the ?Watch hasn't even hit the streets yet ...
http://mashable.com/2015/01/08/fake-apple-watch-ces/
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/ordered-fake-apple-watch-china/story?id=29763640
New Woz interview in which he talks about the Apple Watch and his desire to see Apple enter the electric car market: http://www.afr.com/technology/apple-cofounder-steve-wozniak-on-the-apple-watch-electric-cars-and-the-surpassing-of-humanity-20150323-1m3xxk
"I hope it does come, and we should pursue it because it is about scientific exploring," Mr Wozniak said. "But in the end we just may have created the species that is above us."
What a complete idiot. Computers do not have a soul - a computer chip is after all simply a passive device. it simply obeys instructions and this kind of quote illustrates the sheer stupidity of people who have no understanding of higher life forms. Even if a computer could be designed to navigate or even answer questions , it still can never conceptualize based on precepts or have a imagination or ideas. Computer nerds really have no clue and have been watching and reading too much sci-fi.
How is scratch resistant sapphire crystal not an additional feature of the non-sport versions? polished SS is also a feature in my book..
I suppose so but I was referring to capability. For example when you look at the iPhone line you can choose to have more storage, better camera, larger screen, etc. which gives you more capabilities, more functionality. All ?Watches function the same and since it is just an experiment for me and v1 product release, I don't want to spend a lot just to try it out. I'm sure I will be done with it in a year's time anyway. I'll either upgrade to the latest version or bail on it altogether.