BlackBerry sells just 1.6M smartphones in Q4 as software, services grow

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  • Reply 21 of 61
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    The gloating here is a bit off.
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  • Reply 22 of 61
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    They only booked revenue on 1.3 million.

    5.2 million a year is a long way from 10 million, Chen's target. He should abandon hardware.

    Weak quarter though.
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  • Reply 23 of 61
    solipsismy wrote: »
    I'm curious who is buying Blackberrys at this point.

    People making crumble.
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  • Reply 24 of 61
    asdasd wrote: »
    They only booked revenue on 1.3 million.

    5.2 million a year is a long way from 10 million, Chen's target. He should abandon hardware.

    Weak quarter though.

    They did well to make a net profit. Still $350 million under for the year. If they can make a net profit over a year and stop their revenue slide, they may survive.
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  • Reply 25 of 61
    knowitallknowitall Posts: 1,648member
    I certainly hope they are successful in the transition to a software only company, but it reminds me of a company a while ago with similar plans led by one of the founders of Apple: NeXT.
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  • Reply 26 of 61
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    knowitall wrote: »
    I certainly hope they are successful in the transition to a software only company, but it reminds me of a company a while ago with similar plans led by one of the founders of Apple: NeXT.

    It's also reminiscint of Apple 1996-2001
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  • Reply 27 of 61
    aaronjaaronj Posts: 1,595member
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    Originally Posted by knowitall View Post



    I certainly hope they are successful in the transition to a software only company, but it reminds me of a company a while ago with similar plans led by one of the founders of Apple: NeXT.



    It's BB's only way to continue to be successful in any way.  They have lost the mobile device wars -- as has MS, btw -- so software/services is pretty much the only way for them to put together profits and a real model.

     

    Look, we all know that the mobile market is too mature for someone new to come in anytime soon.  Apple and Sammy just own the hardware mobile device market.  What did I read the other day about HTC?  They had less than 2% of the market, if I remember correctly.  Now, sure, that's a lot of money.  But let's face it: It's Apple and Samsung.  OK, that's not entirely right, since there are Chinese companies who sell a lot of phones.  But volume means nothing if you don't have good margins.  Heck, ask most Android device makers.

     

    So, I think BB is smart to focus on something different.  They stand NO chance of ever breaking back into the hardware market.  So ... do something different.  It seems like Chen knows what he's doing.  Now, whether or not it will work, that's a different question.  But I never root against anyone's success, unless they really piss me off.  So, I hope the software/services model works for them.

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  • Reply 28 of 61
    jlvhjlvh Posts: 10member
    "RIM co-CEO doesn't see threat from Apple's iPhone"

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/02/12/us-rim-iphone-idUSN1236561320070212
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  • Reply 29 of 61
    dreyfus2 wrote: »

    Good question. With the failed hardware business and pointless OS no longer being contributing factors to a black number and most hardware development being outsourced (easy to cut off)... Chances for somebody wanting access to regulated businesses / governments might be better now.

    Only fools where expecting this "turnaround" to bring BB back to the old glory days. Apple is the only electronics maker that ever had a comeback, and that was a "once in a lifetime" story. But no longer bleeding cash and still having the largest installed base in the, for now, important MDM market is at least something. They must sell while this still makes any sense, the systems of the future (and several products are already moving into that direction) will manage everything that is remotely a computer, without requiring different management tools for every platform. BB will not be able to play there, companies like MS and IBM are lightyears ahead.

    True. But of course it wasn't just a fluke, Apple did have a secret weapon, Steve Jobs. Rim doesn't appear to have anyone like that lying around.
    jlvh wrote: »
    "RIM co-CEO doesn't see threat from Apple's iPhone"

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/02/12/us-rim-iphone-idUSN1236561320070212

    LOL
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  • Reply 30 of 61
    taniwhataniwha Posts: 347member
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    Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post

     

    This is what happens when you go to where the puck is instead of where it will be. Apple is always looking ahead and the others are always looking where Apple is and trying to follow. 


    Yeah, right. Specially when it comes to Phablets

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  • Reply 31 of 61
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    The big news is they sold phones... Good Job blackberry.

    That was my first reaction ... 'they sold some?'
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  • Reply 32 of 61
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    solipsismy wrote: »
    I'm curious who is buying Blackberrys at this point.

    Jam makers mostly. :D
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  • Reply 33 of 61
    solipsismy wrote: »
    I'm curious who is buying Blackberrys at this point.

    The same people who are buying typewriters at this point.
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  • Reply 34 of 61
    Amateur hour is (truly) over. And has been for a while now.
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  • Reply 35 of 61
    jbdragonjbdragon Posts: 2,315member
    It's like to see them make a comeback and take 20% of Android market share!!! More competition is a good thing. It's a very, very long shot at this point though.
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  • Reply 36 of 61
    geekmeegeekmee Posts: 655member
    aaronj wrote: »

    The US Government still uses them as do some enterprise entities.  I wonder how many went to the Government?
    Good point... I've been a technology contractor for the US Government for over 10 years. The Government appears to be a dumping ground for technology just before it goes out of date.
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  • Reply 37 of 61
    aaronjaaronj Posts: 1,595member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Geekmee View Post





    Good point... I've been a technology contractor for the US Government for over 10 years. The Government appears to be a dumping ground for technology just before it goes out of date.



    As I remember it -- and possibly incorrectly I will admit -- there was something about BB that the Government felt was most secure, so they stuck with it.

     

    If I'm wrong about this, I'll be the first to admit it.  But that's how I remember the story.

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  • Reply 38 of 61
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
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    Originally Posted by jungmark View Post



    RIP.



    Apple sold that much every Two days in the last qtr.



    Possibly still a niche market, some enterprise, government:, though IIRC they're have been reported cracks in their enterprise security?

     

    An older one: http://gizmodo.com/5985255/blackberry-security-flaw-could-compromise-enterprise-servers

     

    Now: "BlackBerry begins slow rollout for FREAK security flaw, most devices still at risk"

    http://www.zdnet.com/article/blackberry-slow-to-respond-to-freak-flaw-says-it-has-no-fix/

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  • Reply 39 of 61
    idreyidrey Posts: 647member
    At least they made a profit. Lets see if the can keep it up.
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  • Reply 40 of 61
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
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    Originally Posted by Michael Scrip View Post





    Oh lord... here we go again. image



    I'd love to see these mythical landfills where people think most smartphones end up. They must be packed after all these years.



    And all landing on top of that buried mountain of "E.T.: The Extraterrestrial" video games...

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