Force Touch for iPhone expected to bring about most significant change yet to iOS user interface

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  • Reply 61 of 75
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by freediverx View Post

     

     

    I doubt it, for three reasons.

     

    1) The lack of a discreet, tactile home button would make it tricky to incorporate Touch ID.

     

    2) It would make it harder for users to figure out where to place their finger on the screen without looking at it.

     

    3) If the entire display acted as a home button, the phone would easily wake unintentionally when carried in a pocket.


     

    Well, not if it takes touch differentiation (a finger touch doesn't look like a butt pressure ;-)  and a fingerprint (you know touch ID is in there too :-) to wake up and unlock the phone. Then, the screen could in fact be the home button. That would be one hell of a tech (getting the touch, and the fingerprint from anywhere on the screen, processing it, unlocking). That would be a worthwhile "gimmick" and I don't see any competition on that from anyone for many years (hell, they're not even doing touch ID yet).

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  • Reply 62 of 75
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
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    Originally Posted by Crowley View Post

     

    They skipped iPhone 3.

     

    I don't think numerical consistency means all that much to Apple or Microsoft.  It's just marketing.


     

    Iphone' 3, was the Iphone 3G (the mixup here is that it also was the name of the then communication tech they were introducing in that phone). The one they skipped is the 2, unless you count the original Iphone as a Iphone 2G, in that case, they skipped directly to 2 from the start... ;-).

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  • Reply 63 of 75
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by foggyhill View Post

     

     

    Iphone' 3, was the Iphone 3G (the mixup here is that it also was the name of the then communication tech they were introducing in that phone). The one they skipped is the 2, unless you count the original Iphone as a Iphone 2G, in that case, they skipped directly to 2 from the start... ;-).




    I think we're arguing the same point.

     

    If the iPhone 3G and 3GS are of the same versioning, as with the 4 and 4S, or 5 and 5S, then there was only one version between the original iPhone (surely the 1?) and 4.  The fact that it was called the 3G instead of a regular number obfuscates things, but it was either the 2 or the 3.  I say 2, you say 3, let's call the whole thing off ;) 

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  • Reply 64 of 75
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,418member
    ascii wrote: »
    Then I'm dismayed that it's being reported through the rumor mill. What Kuo and others are doing is tantamount to industrial espionage.


    Definitely. He has probably paid someone in the supply chain somewhere. But as a reporter I guess his sources are protected. Apple should still try to find out how he's doing it.

    Is this surprising? Recall the holier-than-thou 'OMG, how could they' faux rage directed at Gizmodo, the finger-pointing, the media and blog cicus, the court case surrounding it, etc. Some of us predicted then that, given the demand for this kind of info won't go away, the supply will merely shift to less scrupulous and less reliable sources of leaks in the Far East (where the supply chain is).

    Which is exactly what has happened.
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  • Reply 65 of 75
    peteraltpeteralt Posts: 155member
    I'm still waiting on the inclusion of PrimeSense sensors in an Apple product. Such a 3D proximity sensor in an iPhone could bring all sorts of very creative and imaginative apps! I was expecting this to be the new sensor technology in the iPhone 6S. Apple traditionally has just introduced one new sensor technology at a time per generation of iPhone products. Adding Force Touch and the PrimeSense sensor in a single product would be a welcome break from that tradition. That said, it may just be that the PrimeSense sensor will be introduced this year in the 6S and the Force Touch sensor next year in the iPhone 7 - or both this year and hence we will get an iPhone 7.
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  • Reply 66 of 75
    peteraltpeteralt Posts: 155member
    Mic and earpiece both on both sides, activated by accelerometer?

    That's not a bad idea for a future iPhone concept... Screens on both sides and mica and earpieces on top and bottom and both sides so that it could be used no matter how it's held. The home button would have to go and the sides would have to be entirely touch sensitive so that functions could be applied according to orientation... Hmmm
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  • Reply 67 of 75
    peteraltpeteralt Posts: 155member
    I wonder if Force Touch could be used as a scale app to weigh things obviously that's not heavy enough to crush the screen!
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  • Reply 68 of 75
    lee493lee493 Posts: 22member
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  • Reply 69 of 75
    mrmac85mrmac85 Posts: 37member
    This feature sounds really cool after reading more about it. I'm anxious to give it a try on the new MacBooks sometime. Apple keeps adding these unique features into their products, which will cause competitors' margins to shrink even more if they decide to mimic them.
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  • Reply 70 of 75
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    He's usually right about hardware features. This could indeed be revolutionary depending on the level of imagination applied. And it seems likely to catch the competition off guard in the same way 64-bit did.




    Android has a similar but less technical version of this called long touch/tap. Though I am sure Force Touch will offer more possibilities.

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  • Reply 71 of 75
    hekghekg Posts: 7member
    This technology is going to allow iOS to be used with future Apple trackpads and mice. For example, a mouse pointer will be able to be moved around on a docked iPad screen and icons and hotspots will be able to be clicked by Force Touch presses. Brilliant!

    This is going to allow people to use their iPads as their main computers, all they'll need is a standing ipad, bluetooth keyboard and bluetooth magic trackpad or mouse.
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  • Reply 72 of 75
    bigpicsbigpics Posts: 1,397member

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by joelsalt View Post

     

    I hope they ditch the numbers.  The larger the numbers get the more unwieldy (iPhone 10, iPhone el-e-ven ... gross)


     

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DamonF View Post

     

     

    Don't worry, once we hit iPhone 10, we go decimal: 10.1 for the former non-"s" phones (like iPhone 4, 5, 6), 10.1.1 for the "s" phones. Then 10.2, then 10.2.1, and so on.  ;)  They'll also get named after cats, until iPhone 10.9. 




    ....or we (well they) could go X....  ....as in iPhone X + a series of names.  Not repeating cats - or likely dogs, though there's hundreds - or Cali Place names.  Maybe flowers? iPhone X Larkspur sounds kinda X and kinda flowery at once....



    ....altho' this is hardware.  And that's more how Apple names software... ...NTM the existence of the HTC X1....  ....but something's likely to give before we see an "iPhone 27s".....



    ...Whatever, I've had a notion for awhile now that Apple's maybe 4-6 years away from a more complete blend of OS X and iOS (still optimized per device line, but much more integrated at various levels) - and have thought more than once it might be into "iOS X"....

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  • Reply 73 of 75
    cornchipcornchip Posts: 1,954member
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    I wonder if Force Touch could be used as a scale app to weigh things obviously that's not heavy enough to crush the screen!

     

    Drug dealers rejoice!

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  • Reply 74 of 75

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