I would agree - but nothing prevents google to sell information about myself to a spammer or to somebody that sells it to a spammer, to send me emails. I didn't say that google is spamming me directly.
And no, I didn'T receive a single spam email yet on iCloud.
As soon as I started watching some NSFW videos in Youtube, off it started with spam with chicks. And I am *only* getting spam of the same type.
Mine was an ironical comment that I get exactly the opposite of what they "should" send me. So if google profiled me and sent it to some company sending spam emails (btw, where did they get my email address? which is not published nowhere else???), either directly or indirectly, then it doesn't work too well.
Same here, search for something using Google and suddenly I get crap about what ever it was (in my Junk Mail Box mostly, luckily but I do check it). I was just thinking yesterday, Amazon never do that, yes they suggest items I might like based on my shopping and searching but they keep it strictly in house which is fine with me and they don't over do it ... and it is scarily accurate! Yes of course I want that Canon L lens!
Same here, search for something using Google and suddenly I get crap about what ever it was (in my Junk Mail Box mostly, luckily but I do check it). I was just thinking yesterday, Amazon never do that, yes they suggest items I might like based on my shopping and searching but they keep it strictly in house which is fine with me and they don't over do it ... and it is scarily accurate! Yes of course I want that Canon L lens!
Google has never sold CPI to anyone. Microsoft and apple have both done so by not google.
This is the "Thermonuclear Option" personified - deep, linked, indexed and natural language search without user tracking: monetising Google's own very cash cow, intelligent search while offering privacy as a free, precious extra bonus.
I thought that if a product was free, that the consumer was the product.
The big thing is NLP (Natural Language Processing) in search strings. Google was much better at that, but now Apple seems to be on the right track. Much better than the cumbersome AND/OR/ETC queries you have to enter now.
Search within apps is fine but Apple currently favors web apps (html5) over native apps. This is because keychain isn't supported on iOS and this means that apps that require logon entries are at a disadvantage. Web apps like PayPal have auto fill in but require manual entry for native apps. Ios9 doesn't seem to change that.
Same here, search for something using Google and suddenly I get crap about what ever it was (in my Junk Mail Box mostly, luckily but I do check it). I was just thinking yesterday, Amazon never do that, yes they suggest items I might like based on my shopping and searching but they keep it strictly in house which is fine with me and they don't over do it ... and it is scarily accurate! Yes of course I want that Canon L lens!
That's just FUD. I use google search all the time and the only junk/spam mail I get is from various other sites, groupon, livingsocial etc that I used my gmail address when registering.
But I thought Apple main privacy selling point is this is all done on device (other than instances where something needs to grab your location).
can you quote that selling point, please?
because i recall a slide that said apple wont share your prefs w/ other product divisions (believe this was about News), the given being that its still on their servers when compiling it.
That's in a market strategy based on selling targeted advert placements; Apple sells hardware, and all its software services come bundled free...
So not free. It's part of the package, contributes to the value, and is purchased with the device. Otherwise, it's like saying a car comes with a free battery.
Personally I dislike Apple Mail, especially on iOS. Couple main complaints off the top of my head. I think they should put the trash can on the side of the bottom menu. I can't tell you how many times I have accidentally deleted an email while trying to scroll down. And, to make matters worse, the email is completely gone not just in the trash. I go look in the trash for it and it shows up for one second and then disappears forever. Also, on iPad I hate that you have to open every email to delete it. If I get email that I know I don't want to read, why should I have to open it to delete it? </rant>
Shake to undo works for undeleting email on iPhone, possibly on iPad too? Not exactly an ideal solution, waving around a 10" tablet, but if it'll save you losing emails...
Eric Schmidt, such a smug asshole. Watch the video. It's good to know that he is so concerned about us based on the Patriot Act. He relies on the fact that so many of his users are unaware, or just idiots.
So not free. It's part of the package, contributes to the value, and is purchased with the device. Otherwise, it's like saying a car comes with a free battery.
Beep! Wrong answer. You are overintellectualizing. They used to charge for them, and stopped doing so without raising prices. That in fact makes them free.
Beep! Wrong answer. You are overintellectualizing. They used to charge for them, and stopped doing so without raising prices. That in fact makes them free.
You're underintellectualizing. You pay for all the parts of the car. That's what makes it a car purchase. There is a bill of materials in manufacture, and the battery does not have $0 next to it.
You're underintellectualizing. You pay for all the parts of the car. That's what makes it a car purchase. There is a bill of materials in manufacture, and the battery does not have $0 next to it.
If a car manufacturer used to charge for the battery then stops charging, without making any other changes to pricing or product, then they have absorbed the cost of the battery from their own margin. That's additional value, and tantamount to free, from the perspective of the consumer.
1. This is your most balanced and focused article ever. Congratulations!
2. You can claim security lapses are frequent and serious, but can you point to frequent and serious security [B]breaches[/B]? I doubt you can because Google keeps Android surprisingly secure with its malware detection and removal tools built into Play Services.
3. How can you conflate Google's data collection with 3rd party data collection? They're completely unrelated. Google hasn't built in security gaps in order to collect data, as you imply. Instead they have built data collection tools into the apps and services that they offer to consumers. These tools are not usable by 3rd parties. Users' behavioral and personal data is at no greater risk of being collected by 3rd parties on Android than it is on iOS. Your implication is untethered from reality.
1. This is your most balanced and focused article ever. Congratulations!
2. You can claim security lapses are frequent and serious, but can you point to frequent and serious security breaches? I doubt you can because Google keeps Android surprisingly secure with its malware detection and removal tools built into Play Services.
3. How can you conflate Google's data collection with 3rd party data collection? They're completely unrelated. Google hasn't built in security gaps in order to collect data, as you imply. Instead they have built data collection tools into the apps and services that they offer to consumers. These tools are not usable by 3rd parties. Users' behavioral and personal data is at no greater risk of being collected by 3rd parties on Android than it is on iOS. Your implication is untethered from reality.
Huh! EVeryone and their mother says differently about 2). I'm sure you can Google this info yourself if you have the courage to be confronted by reality. Even in the play store, there are malware.
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Same here, search for something using Google and suddenly I get crap about what ever it was (in my Junk Mail Box mostly, luckily but I do check it). I was just thinking yesterday, Amazon never do that, yes they suggest items I might like based on my shopping and searching but they keep it strictly in house which is fine with me and they don't over do it ... and it is scarily accurate! Yes of course I want that Canon L lens!
Same here, search for something using Google and suddenly I get crap about what ever it was (in my Junk Mail Box mostly, luckily but I do check it). I was just thinking yesterday, Amazon never do that, yes they suggest items I might like based on my shopping and searching but they keep it strictly in house which is fine with me and they don't over do it ... and it is scarily accurate! Yes of course I want that Canon L lens!
Google has never sold CPI to anyone. Microsoft and apple have both done so by not google.
This is the "Thermonuclear Option" personified - deep, linked, indexed and natural language search without user tracking: monetising Google's own very cash cow, intelligent search while offering privacy as a free, precious extra bonus.
I thought that if a product was free, that the consumer was the product.
Google was much better at that, but now Apple seems to be on the right track.
Much better than the cumbersome AND/OR/ETC queries you have to enter now.
Search within apps is fine but Apple currently favors web apps (html5) over native apps.
This is because keychain isn't supported on iOS and this means that apps that require logon entries are at a disadvantage.
Web apps like PayPal have auto fill in but require manual entry for native apps.
Ios9 doesn't seem to change that.
The big thing is NLP (Natural Language Processing) in search strings.
Google was much better at that, but now Apple seems to be on the right track.
Much better than the cumbersome AND/OR/ETC queries you have to enter now.
Search within apps is fine but Apple currently favors web apps (html5) over native apps.
This is because keychain isn't supported on iOS and this means that apps that require logon entries are at a disadvantage.
Web apps like PayPal have auto fill in but require manual entry for native apps.
Ios9 doesn't seem to change that.
Right now, I think SoundHound is the most likely to dominate. Really amazing depth in its searches.
Same here, search for something using Google and suddenly I get crap about what ever it was (in my Junk Mail Box mostly, luckily but I do check it). I was just thinking yesterday, Amazon never do that, yes they suggest items I might like based on my shopping and searching but they keep it strictly in house which is fine with me and they don't over do it ... and it is scarily accurate! Yes of course I want that Canon L lens!
That's just FUD. I use google search all the time and the only junk/spam mail I get is from various other sites, groupon, livingsocial etc that I used my gmail address when registering.
can you quote that selling point, please?
because i recall a slide that said apple wont share your prefs w/ other product divisions (believe this was about News), the given being that its still on their servers when compiling it.
your attempt fails, because in this case privacy isnt the product, but rather is a feature on the product, which you paid good money for. try again.
your attempt fails, because in this case privacy isnt the product, but rather is a feature on the product, which you paid good money for. try again.
I'm not the one who said it was "free."
I thought that if a product was free, that the consumer was the product.
That's in a market strategy based on selling targeted advert placements; Apple sells hardware, and all its software services come bundled free...
That's in a market strategy based on selling targeted advert placements; Apple sells hardware, and all its software services come bundled free...
So not free. It's part of the package, contributes to the value, and is purchased with the device. Otherwise, it's like saying a car comes with a free battery.
Personally I dislike Apple Mail, especially on iOS. Couple main complaints off the top of my head. I think they should put the trash can on the side of the bottom menu. I can't tell you how many times I have accidentally deleted an email while trying to scroll down. And, to make matters worse, the email is completely gone not just in the trash. I go look in the trash for it and it shows up for one second and then disappears forever. Also, on iPad I hate that you have to open every email to delete it. If I get email that I know I don't want to read, why should I have to open it to delete it? </rant>
Shake to undo works for undeleting email on iPhone, possibly on iPad too? Not exactly an ideal solution, waving around a 10" tablet, but if it'll save you losing emails...
Beep! Wrong answer. You are overintellectualizing. They used to charge for them, and stopped doing so without raising prices. That in fact makes them free.
Beep! Wrong answer. You are overintellectualizing. They used to charge for them, and stopped doing so without raising prices. That in fact makes them free.
You're underintellectualizing. You pay for all the parts of the car. That's what makes it a car purchase. There is a bill of materials in manufacture, and the battery does not have $0 next to it.
2. You can claim security lapses are frequent and serious, but can you point to frequent and serious security [B]breaches[/B]? I doubt you can because Google keeps Android surprisingly secure with its malware detection and removal tools built into Play Services.
3. How can you conflate Google's data collection with 3rd party data collection? They're completely unrelated. Google hasn't built in security gaps in order to collect data, as you imply. Instead they have built data collection tools into the apps and services that they offer to consumers. These tools are not usable by 3rd parties. Users' behavioral and personal data is at no greater risk of being collected by 3rd parties on Android than it is on iOS. Your implication is untethered from reality.
Not the perspective of this consumer.
1. This is your most balanced and focused article ever. Congratulations!
2. You can claim security lapses are frequent and serious, but can you point to frequent and serious security breaches? I doubt you can because Google keeps Android surprisingly secure with its malware detection and removal tools built into Play Services.
3. How can you conflate Google's data collection with 3rd party data collection? They're completely unrelated. Google hasn't built in security gaps in order to collect data, as you imply. Instead they have built data collection tools into the apps and services that they offer to consumers. These tools are not usable by 3rd parties. Users' behavioral and personal data is at no greater risk of being collected by 3rd parties on Android than it is on iOS. Your implication is untethered from reality.
Huh! EVeryone and their mother says differently about 2). I'm sure you can Google this info yourself if you have the courage to be confronted by reality. Even in the play store, there are malware.