I am a fan of Fassbender. Twelve years a slave is a masterpiece. This movie is not. Aaron Sorkin is full of it.
Actually, I didn't think much of "12 Years" overall, though it certainly had its moments. A MUCH better McQueen/Fassbender film is "Shame." I think by a long, LONG shot.
He said he wasn't doing it for financial gain anyway remember?
I believed him when he said that. I think he was doing it for the accolades and awards that often accompany Apple bashing. His public statements give the impression
that having his ego stroked is the most important thing to him. That's one reason why he got so emotional about Cook implying he was an opportunist.
The box office take is split with the movie theaters. Assuming a 50/50 split, then yes, it would need to take in $120 million in theater receipts in order to provide the movie house with its $60 million break-even costs.
hahahaha. No. Movie theatres owners would cream their pants right now if they got a 50/50 split for tickets of a new movie. At least for any movie people actually want to see.
Now, for this specific movie, it's possible they agreed to give the theatres a small percentage to show the film, but it is NOT the usual case.
I have no interest in seeing a fabricated film about Steve Jobs written by a guy who arrogantly states that his movie about a real person was not intended to be a fact-based film.
His preformances in "12 Years A Slave" and the X-Men movies indicate otherwise.
Those movies had strong ensemble casts, of which he played a part. He was not the leading star. I didn't say he couldn't act; I said he doesn't put asses in theater seats. He can't be relied upon to carry a big budget film.
Years ago when I first heard that Sorkin was doing the script, I made my views known on this site more than once, and I guess that the movie turned out to be pretty much how I predicted.
This is not some movie about a historical person who lived hundreds of years ago. This is about a person who passed away not that many years ago, and it's just dumb to make shit up, when the truth is far better and more interesting. Why even bother to call this movie Steve Jobs? Why not use a fictional character title for a fictional film?
Many people who did know Steve Jobs well have come out and criticized this film. Besides Woz, who got paid hundreds of thousands to consult on the film, who knew Jobs well that likes this movie? The list of people who knew him well and who bash the film is far more numerous than the Woz's of the world I think.
Michael Fassbender will never be an A-list star who can carry a movie. Nobody is going to the theater to see him. The studio should've acquiesced to whatever the hell David Fincher wanted and kept him paired with Christian Bale by any means necessary.
Christian Bale has made his fair share of flops, and shown far worse judgement when it comes to picking his roles. Terminator: Salvation?
"Steve Jobs," the dramatic, fictionalized depiction of Apple's cofounder written by Aaron Sorkin and starring Michael Fassbender, has flopped on its national release, bringing in just $7.3 million for a film that cost $30 million to make.
An earlier movie titled "Jobs," staring Ashton Kutcher, similarly flopped when it brought in $6.7 million on its opening weekend, nearly as much despite poor reviews.
I wouldn't say that Kutcher's movie flopped, it made $35m on a $12m budget:
Considering the only other movie before it was the Pirates of Silicon Valley, which was a pretty low-budget TV drama, it's currently the most commercially successful Steve Jobs movie of all time.
This new one, the Biography of Fake Steve Jobs has a steeper hill to climb:
It's failing because we've had enough Steve Jobs movies already. Isn't this the third? I mean come on, the man was fascinating, but how many biography movies do we really need? I think it's just Steve Jobs fatigue.
It does get tiring hearing the same story being told over and over. To twist a story that everyone is deeply familiar with by now into a fictional spin-off with characters that bear hardly any resemblance to their real-world counterparts was a huge mistake.
The Facebook movie The Social Network written by Sorkin was a massive worldwide success - $225m revenue on a $40m budget:
but nobody knew the story of Facebook and there was controversy that wasn't publicized. They must have assumed they could pull off the same thing again.
How do you do a movie about Steve Jobs and completely ignore the last 15 years of his life? This movie focuses on Steve's daughter Lisa but fails to mention that Steve was happily married and had other children. Fails to mention that Lisa actually lived with Steve and his family for several years and that Steve paid for her college education. The problem with this movie is it's mostly fiction but some fact. If it was complete fiction with made-up names nobody would be trying to reconcile it with what actually happened.
The problem is, nobody would have wanted to watch this if it wasn't for the interest surrounding Steve Jobs. It just isn't good enough to stand without the support of his fame. Not that it stands well with it either.
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Why even bother to call this movie Steve Jobs? Why not use a fictional character title for a fictional film?
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If it was complete fiction with made-up names nobody would be trying to reconcile it with what actually happened.
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I am a fan of Fassbender. Twelve years a slave is a masterpiece. This movie is not. Aaron Sorkin is full of it.
Actually, I didn't think much of "12 Years" overall, though it certainly had its moments. A MUCH better McQueen/Fassbender film is "Shame." I think by a long, LONG shot.
I believed him when he said that. I think he was doing it for the accolades and awards that often accompany Apple bashing. His public statements give the impression
that having his ego stroked is the most important thing to him. That's one reason why he got so emotional about Cook implying he was an opportunist.
The box office take is split with the movie theaters. Assuming a 50/50 split, then yes, it would need to take in $120 million in theater receipts in order to provide the movie house with its $60 million break-even costs.
hahahaha. No. Movie theatres owners would cream their pants right now if they got a 50/50 split for tickets of a new movie. At least for any movie people actually want to see.
Now, for this specific movie, it's possible they agreed to give the theatres a small percentage to show the film, but it is NOT the usual case.
I will because he can't
I have no interest in seeing a fabricated film about Steve Jobs written by a guy who arrogantly states that his movie about a real person was not intended to be a fact-based film.
Years ago when I first heard that Sorkin was doing the script, I made my views known on this site more than once, and I guess that the movie turned out to be pretty much how I predicted.
This is not some movie about a historical person who lived hundreds of years ago. This is about a person who passed away not that many years ago, and it's just dumb to make shit up, when the truth is far better and more interesting. Why even bother to call this movie Steve Jobs? Why not use a fictional character title for a fictional film?
Many people who did know Steve Jobs well have come out and criticized this film. Besides Woz, who got paid hundreds of thousands to consult on the film, who knew Jobs well that likes this movie? The list of people who knew him well and who bash the film is far more numerous than the Woz's of the world I think.
Michael Fassbender will never be an A-list star who can carry a movie. Nobody is going to the theater to see him. The studio should've acquiesced to whatever the hell David Fincher wanted and kept him paired with Christian Bale by any means necessary.
Christian Bale has made his fair share of flops, and shown far worse judgement when it comes to picking his roles. Terminator: Salvation?
I wouldn't say that Kutcher's movie flopped, it made $35m on a $12m budget:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=jobs.htm
Considering the only other movie before it was the Pirates of Silicon Valley, which was a pretty low-budget TV drama, it's currently the most commercially successful Steve Jobs movie of all time.
This new one, the Biography of Fake Steve Jobs has a steeper hill to climb:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=jobs2015.htm
It could break even but it will be a blot on the records of everyone involved.
It does get tiring hearing the same story being told over and over. To twist a story that everyone is deeply familiar with by now into a fictional spin-off with characters that bear hardly any resemblance to their real-world counterparts was a huge mistake.
The Facebook movie The Social Network written by Sorkin was a massive worldwide success - $225m revenue on a $40m budget:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=socialnetwork.htm
They took some liberties with that too:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-11437873
but nobody knew the story of Facebook and there was controversy that wasn't publicized. They must have assumed they could pull off the same thing again.
I'm waiting until Ken Burns decides to make a documentary about Steve Jobs.
Good. I hope the Boyle one flops too.
It was okay.
Acting was pretty well done and the sets were pretty good.
But I went in know ing it was not going to be accurate.
I tried not to get worked up over things like many people do now a days.
Its just bad for your health.
If anything, hopefully the box office record for this movie dissuades others from producing any more Steve Jobs movies for awhile.
Let the dead bury the dead.
The problem is, nobody would have wanted to watch this if it wasn't for the interest surrounding Steve Jobs. It just isn't good enough to stand without the support of his fame. Not that it stands well with it either.
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Why even bother to call this movie Steve Jobs? Why not use a fictional character title for a fictional film?
If it was complete fiction with made-up names nobody would be trying to reconcile it with what actually happened.
No one can take place of SIR Steve Jobs ..
It flops because the subject matter (a dead tech guy) is just boring for almost everyone alive.