OLED iPhone with curved screen could appear in 2018, research forecasts

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  • Reply 21 of 41
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    tzeshan said:
    hjmnl said:
    If oled is a gimmick, why are all manufacturers switching to Oled? Have you seen OLED next to your iPhone screen? Tell me honestly what you prefer...
    OLED color is artificial.  It is not high fidelity.  To use it in TV for entertainment is OK.  
    Wrong.  Check out Anandtech's measurements and comments on any of Samsung's recent high end phones.
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  • Reply 22 of 41
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    Samsung are rumoured to have a high end phone out in 2017 with a folding 4K OLED screen.  Apple need to up the pace a bit.

    The five new flagships will include the Galaxy S8, the Galaxy S8 edge, the Galaxy Note 7, the Galaxy Note 7 edge, as well as the Galaxy X. The first four flagships are said to use a 2.5K resolution Super AMOLED display with an RBG subpixel arrangement. The Galaxy X is going to be Samsung’s foldable smartphone and is going to feature a 4K display with diamond PenTile subpixel arrangement. It was almost a year ago when we reported that Samsung was working on Project Valley, its foldable smartphone, and recent reports out of Korea suggest that this handset might finally be launched in 2017.

    It’s believed that this device will easily be foldable in half, like a wallet, making it much easier to carry it in a pocket.

    http://www.sammobile.com/2016/05/13/samsung-will-launch-five-galaxy-flagship-smartphones-in-2017/



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  • Reply 23 of 41
    roakeroake Posts: 821member
    SnRa said:
    tzeshan said:
    hjmnl said:
    If oled is a gimmick, why are all manufacturers switching to Oled? Have you seen OLED next to your iPhone screen? Tell me honestly what you prefer...
    OLED color is artificial.  It is not high fidelity.  To use it in TV for entertainment is OK.  
    OLED, when calibrated, does not produce artificial looking colors.

    From displaymate's Galaxy S7 review:
    More information about each mode and the full review can be found on their webpage: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm

    Apple already has adjustable gamuts without OLED.
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  • Reply 24 of 41
    Herbivore2herbivore2 Posts: 367member
    What's the whole thing about the curved screen? OLED screens can be built out as flat screens. The contrast is superior to conventional LCD and the panel consumes much less energy when the background is black. 

    OLED allows for curved screens, but Apple could easily build them as flat screen devices. 

    A foldable phone that enlarges into a large screen device would be of great utility. Samsung will be introducing such devices. Apple absolutely needs to be doing something similar. 

    No matter the screen or hardware, I would never purchase an Android device but I might purchase Samsung hardware running Tizen. 
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  • Reply 25 of 41
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    hjmnl said:
    foggyhill said:
    Because not seeing the whole screen distortion and being failure proof is such a big advantage?

    You do know that Apple sells a hell of a lot more of the high end phones than well anyone else.
    Who's going to build these 230M Oled phone, you're grandma?
    Well, if others can do it, why not Apple? Oled have been there for years. They should have seen that coming and invest in the future. They're getting slow and behind the curve.
    Hey, bud, OLED was a piece of shit years ago. It only started being decent lately. So cut the crap.
    No one produces one 1/5 the number of OLED Apple needs, that's a fracking fact.
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  • Reply 26 of 41
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    What's the whole thing about the curved screen? OLED screens can be built out as flat screens. The contrast is superior to conventional LCD and the panel consumes much less energy when the background is black. 

    OLED allows for curved screens, but Apple could easily build them as flat screen devices. 

    A foldable phone that enlarges into a large screen device would be of great utility. Samsung will be introducing such devices. Apple absolutely needs to be doing something similar. 

    No matter the screen or hardware, I would never purchase an Android device but I might purchase Samsung hardware running Tizen. 
    Samsung introduces loads of useless turds, Apple "needs" to introduce things that actually are usefull.
    Contrast is superior since reflectivity of most phone screens are high you lose most of it.
    In bright light, because of the higher needed output, screens STILL degrade significantly which of course if not worrying to people buying phones they trash in 2-3 years.
    Because you need more pixels with Pentile type screens, you lose all the battery advantage (and even lose some) that you gained.
    The screen in the Ipad Pro is superior to the phones with OLED despite being a LCD.


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  • Reply 27 of 41
    SnRasnra Posts: 65member
    foggyhill said:
    hjmnl said:
    Well, if others can do it, why not Apple? Oled have been there for years. They should have seen that coming and invest in the future. They're getting slow and behind the curve.
    Hey, bud, OLED was a piece of shit years ago. It only started being decent lately. So cut the crap.
    No one produces one 1/5 the number of OLED Apple needs, that's a fracking fact.
    Displaymate's review of the Galaxy Note 3 in 2013:

    "OLED display technology is now challenging and even exceeding the performance of the best LCDs across the board in brightness, contrast, color accuracy, color management, picture quality, screen uniformity, and viewing angles. OLEDs are also considerably thinner than LCDs but still cost considerably more to manufacture."

    http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
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  • Reply 28 of 41
    mattinozmattinoz Posts: 2,605member
    icoco3 said:
    "Curved screen" gets thrown around too much.  Just tell me what that will offer to the usability of the phone before mentioning it again.
    To me it just means more glare in more places.
    I've yet to see anywhere it adds function.
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  • Reply 29 of 41
    jason98jason98 Posts: 768member
    tzeshan said:
    OLED is a gimmick.  OLED did not win praises for Apple Watch screens.  Show me Apple Watch reviews that praise its screen.  
    My advice to you, go to a local electronic store and compare any LED tvs to LG OLEDs. They will blow your mind.
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  • Reply 30 of 41
    jason98jason98 Posts: 768member
    foggyhill said:
    The screen in the Ipad Pro is superior to the phones with OLED despite being a LCD.
    In color accuracy - yes, in the contrast department - no.
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  • Reply 31 of 41
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
    jason98 said:
    tzeshan said:
    OLED is a gimmick.  OLED did not win praises for Apple Watch screens.  Show me Apple Watch reviews that praise its screen.  
    My advice to you, go to a local electronic store and compare any LED tvs to LG OLEDs. They will blow your mind.
    I said before OLED is good for TV for entertainment when color accuracy is unimportant.  Audience has no idea of what is the true color.  
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  • Reply 32 of 41
    freerangefreerange Posts: 1,597member
    Bullshit! Apple will not introduce a curved screen for the simple fact that there is absolutely no need for it. It's a worthless gimmick.
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  • Reply 33 of 41
    fulwildfulwild Posts: 15member
    What do you think of the rumors that the A10 chipset will be 50% to 100% faster than the A9 and that graphics performance will also be improved. Some people are saying it will even be a better phone than the 6S. I hope I know soon.
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  • Reply 34 of 41
    SnRasnra Posts: 65member
    fulwild said:
    What do you think of the rumors that the A10 chipset will be 50% to 100% faster than the A9 and that graphics performance will also be improved. Some people are saying it will even be a better phone than the 6S. I hope I know soon.
    Hard to say. The release gap between the A8X (iPad Air 2) to the A9X (iPad Pro 9.7) was 18 months and the performance bump was not nearly that big.

    Geekbench 3 Multi-Core:

    A8X - 4527
    A9X - 5151
    13.8% performance gain

    GFXbench 3 Manhattan Offscreen:

    A8X - 43.5 Fps
    A9X - 50.5 Fps
    16.1% performance gain
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  • Reply 35 of 41
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    freerange said:
    Bullshit! Apple will not introduce a curved screen for the simple fact that there is absolutely no need for it. It's a worthless gimmick.
    So why have Apple filed several patents for devices with curved OLED screens?  Are they just being patent trolls, patenting stuff in the hope they can profit from someone else wanting to make such things, without having any intention to do so themselves?



    Also, for those rubbishing OLED displays, why would Apple be spending money on a technology that they thought was inferior and no good?  Is it possible they don't share your views?  Reminds me of all the people who said Apple shouldn't and wouldn't make a larger screened phone, and certainly never a phablet.
    edited May 2016
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  • Reply 36 of 41
    frantisekfrantisek Posts: 761member
    Look there: http://anandtech.com/show/10285/the-iphone-se-review/4 Just fresh iPhone SE review. Its display fails in Black level and Contrast but excels in every other test, especially color accuracy. I think Apple know well what is doing. Also recomend http://anandtech.com/show/10265/understanding-the-97-ipad-pros-true-tone-display And http://www.anandtech.com/show/10120/the-samsung-galaxy-s7-review/5 where you can see that OLED technology mature even Galaxy S6 has better results in some test to S7. And it takes time from working samples that meets Apple expectations to mas production, means mostly Samsung ability to produce enough of them as somebody already noted.
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  • Reply 37 of 41
    cnocbuicnocbui Posts: 3,613member
    As I have said before, I wouldn't be surprised if those boring case shots are mules and that all the interesting rumours for 2018, like all-glass, curved OLED screens, are acually headed for this years 7:  http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/17/apple-suppliers-ramp-up-hiring-in-preparation-for-iphone-7-report.html

    The report noted that hiring at both suppliers had kicked off their recruitment seasons at least a month earlier than in previous years in which Apple has launched new iPhones, and that it was the first time in two years that Foxconn had started recruiting on the mainland as early as May.

    ...

    The Economic Daily News reported that the design of the iPhone 7 was more complex than previous models, which meant that suppliers needed to start work on the new phone's parts earlier than on previous iterations, which assembling staff needed more training than previous.



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  • Reply 38 of 41
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    SnRa said:
    foggyhill said:
    Hey, bud, OLED was a piece of shit years ago. It only started being decent lately. So cut the crap.
    No one produces one 1/5 the number of OLED Apple needs, that's a fracking fact.
    Displaymate's review of the Galaxy Note 3 in 2013:

    "OLED display technology is now challenging and even exceeding the performance of the best LCDs across the board in brightness, contrast, color accuracy, color management, picture quality, screen uniformity, and viewing angles. OLEDs are also considerably thinner than LCDs but still cost considerably more to manufacture."

    http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
    Challenging is not fucking statistically significantly beating it and those screen still had horrible burn in; so what;s your point buddy.,
    OLED has truly not been competitive in most metrics until 2015 and 2016 : that's it.

    You do notice that's this is god damn 2013 and that turd master Samsung introduced the tech when in that a flaming piece of crap. Apple doesn't do that.


    edited May 2016
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  • Reply 39 of 41
    SnRasnra Posts: 65member
    foggyhill said:
    SnRa said:
    Displaymate's review of the Galaxy Note 3 in 2013:

    "OLED display technology is now challenging and even exceeding the performance of the best LCDs across the board in brightness, contrast, color accuracy, color management, picture quality, screen uniformity, and viewing angles. OLEDs are also considerably thinner than LCDs but still cost considerably more to manufacture."

    http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
    Challenging is not fucking statistically significantly beating it and those screen still had horrible burn in; so what;s your point buddy.,
    OLED has truly not been competitive in most metrics until 2015 and 2016 : that's it.

    You do notice that's this is god damn 2013 and that turd master Samsung introduced the tech when in that a flaming piece of crap. Apple doesn't do that.


    Well aren't you just a bundle of joy. I suppose cursing at everyone and demonstrating poor reading comprehension is what you're best at?

    "challenging and even exceeding the performance of the best LCDs across the board in brightness, contrast, color accuracy, color management, picture quality, screen uniformity, and viewing angles."

    Burn-in was not some widespread issue, that's a ridiculous claim and you damn well know it.

    Clearly you have problems outside of these forums. There is a lot of anger in your words for no justifiable reason.
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  • Reply 40 of 41
    hjmnlhjmnl Posts: 31member
    freerange said:
    Bullshit! Apple will not introduce a curved screen for the simple fact that there is absolutely no need for it. It's a worthless gimmick.
    I've seen very usefull tools on the curved screens (notifications, apps) and Amoled blows away the best lcd's. It's the future, period. If you prefer the thick bezels I'm fine with it. In my opinion the lcd of the iPhone with its thick bezels looks outdated next to an Amoled screen. Amoled is also easier for the eyes.
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