If history is any indication, they will rush out folding phones just to beat Apple to the market. They will perform poorly in one way or another. A year later, if the market seems to want it, Apple will introduce their idea of a folding screen that will be sleeker and more elegant as well as overcoming issues that plagued the Samsung and LG models. Not first to market, but best to market.
That is/was always the IBM philosophy: They never tried to have the newest or fastest stuff. They just had the best. They let other companies take the Bleading Edge while they focused on stuff that "just worked". Oh wait! They never used that expression. Instead it was: "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" (because, it just worked -- or if it didn't IBM got it to work because they focused on the customer rather than the product.) Like IBM, Steve Jobs knew that the product was a means to the end rather than the end itself. His rivalry with IBM was more of sibling rivalry than anything else. They both, underneath, carried the same commitment to total, unapologetic customer focused quality.
I don't think a true bendable screen is feesable. I'm thinking 2 flat screens with a hinge.
So where is the innovation in that??
And why would you need a "bendable" screen for it?
you don't. But its the same concept using a different solution.
the challange is thinness. This is exactly why Apple is so obessed with Thin.
They are very close to being able to make a foldable phone the same thickness as the iPhone5
You're not making sense. First you say you want a flexible screen, then you say you want two flat screens with a hinge. What's so clever about that? They've been doing that since I was a kid.
Most of the time making a physical contraption that tries to be two things in one fails. Boat-car, car-plane, etc. Where it does work is in software. iPhone: music player, internet device, phone. Making "Transformers" is really cool for sci-fi and toys, but in the real world people just don't want to deal with fiddly unfolding and reconfiguring just to get something that does nothing well and everything in a compromised way.
come on dude. You don't remember the flip phones of the past with dual screens?
this is just taking that to the next level.
Is that an argument for or against mine?
Dude the most popular phone on earth the Razr had a foldable multi display form factor. This is just the next level
If the two screen flip phone was so earth shakingly popular, why is it not now? Dude.
Then in 2019-2025 it will be about thinner and foldable phones.
The Clamshell phone seemed to be popular in the USA but not elsewhere. IMHO, this seems to be a modern incarnation of these venerable devices. Quite how popular they would be in the rest of the world is an unknown factor to most of us.
I'd be concerned about the longevity of truly foldable displays. Things and materials work harden over time and use. I'd like to see the MTBF and open/close figures before even considering their use.
Finally, the social media addicts won't like these foldable phones at all. Instant gratification is the name of the game with them.
Once this foldable tech pans out. Apple will apply it to the Apple Watch. Imagine fitting a screen into a watch 3 or 4x the size of the actual watch ?
very possible
I think the watch will eventually have a projection/hologram 'screen'
Apple has filed patents for a iphone hud display I think that's where Apple is going with the iPad/iPhone first. Imagine having an iPhone that can be the heart of a tablet via side and top projections. If Apple comes out with a truly edge to edge iPhone that makes it very possible.
Then in 2019-2025 it will be about thinner and foldable phones.
The Clamshell phone seemed to be popular in the USA but not elsewhere. IMHO, this seems to be a modern incarnation of these venerable devices. Quite how popular they would be in the rest of the world is an unknown factor to most of us.
I'd be concerned about the longevity of truly foldable displays. Things and materials work harden over time and use. I'd like to see the MTBF and open/close figures before even considering their use.
Finally, the social media addicts won't like these foldable phones at all. Instant gratification is the name of the game with them.
1. The main feature of a clamshell iPhone is not that its a clamshell. But you can have a very large screen that is pocketable. That will sell in China, Europe, anywhere.
2. Why would a hinge be a longlivity issue? Do you worry about the hinge on macbooks? This is basically the same thing.
3. Even in the folded position you can use the phone. It would be a 3.5 inch screen but still usable instantly.
Basically what a clamshell iPhone would be is a iPhone4s (when folded) and iPhone7+ (when open) in one. Amazing.
Dude, you are crazy:))
That twi svreens connected with a hinge is nothing new and also not so complicated to manufacture. Even when some company would try to develop this further, it would be quite easy.
The main reason why it never happened is because it is STUPID:)
The holy grail here is to unfold small screen into a bigger one WITHOUT THE GAP connecting the screens. With the gap, the bigger screen is quite useless.
I think that you are in the wrong thread here and couple of decades late.
Then in 2019-2025 it will be about thinner and foldable phones.
The Clamshell phone seemed to be popular in the USA but not elsewhere. IMHO, this seems to be a modern incarnation of these venerable devices. Quite how popular they would be in the rest of the world is an unknown factor to most of us.
I'd be concerned about the longevity of truly foldable displays. Things and materials work harden over time and use. I'd like to see the MTBF and open/close figures before even considering their use.
Finally, the social media addicts won't like these foldable phones at all. Instant gratification is the name of the game with them.
1. The main feature of a clamshell iPhone is not that its a clamshell. But you can have a very large screen that is pocketable. That will sell in China, Europe, anywhere.
2. Why would a hinge be a longlivity issue? Do you worry about the hinge on macbooks? This is basically the same thing.
3. Even in the folded position you can use the phone. It would be a 3.5 inch screen but still usable instantly.
Basically what a clamshell iPhone would be is a iPhone4s (when folded) and iPhone7+ (when open) in one. Amazing.
Dude, you are crazy:))
That twi svreens connected with a hinge is nothing new and also not so complicated to manufacture. Even when some company would try to develop this further, it would be quite easy.
The main reason why it never happened is because it is STUPID:)
The holy grail here is to unfold small screen into a bigger one WITHOUT THE GAP connecting the screens. With the gap, the bigger screen is quite useless.
I think that you are in the wrong thread here and couple of decades late.
Why does something have to be complicated to be great?
And just because the idea has been around for a long time means nothing if it was not practical. The concept of electric cars has been around for 50+ years. Does not make anything Tesla doing any less special.
A foldable screen was not practical because of thickness.
There would be no cap connecting the screens. It would be edge to edge screen.
Two screens connected with a gap are neither complicated nor great.
Problem of a foldable screen is not in the thickness, but that it wont be uninterrupted!
And today we cannot connect two screens without visible connection line. More so in a foldable concept. The screen with the line right in the middle of it would be disruptive and therefore the whole concept would be useless.
Also, when folded, the edge of the screen would be too fragile without any bumper area.
As I have told you SEVERAL times, please dont comment on industrial design, you are clueless about it and you just embarrass yourself!
Even if the phone screen is thin the power requirement is nearly the same and thus you may be able to disconnect it from a substantially larger power supply for a minute but then you only have a useful phone for a few minutes. Wireless power maybe a solution but you would need to make it portable or have many locations installed
Then in 2019-2025 it will be about thinner and foldable phones.
The Clamshell phone seemed to be popular in the USA but not elsewhere. IMHO, this seems to be a modern incarnation of these venerable devices. Quite how popular they would be in the rest of the world is an unknown factor to most of us.
I'd be concerned about the longevity of truly foldable displays. Things and materials work harden over time and use. I'd like to see the MTBF and open/close figures before even considering their use.
Finally, the social media addicts won't like these foldable phones at all. Instant gratification is the name of the game with them.
1. The main feature of a clamshell iPhone is not that its a clamshell. But you can have a very large screen that is pocketable. That will sell in China, Europe, anywhere.
2. Why would a hinge be a longlivity issue? Do you worry about the hinge on macbooks? This is basically the same thing.
3. Even in the folded position you can use the phone. It would be a 3.5 inch screen but still usable instantly.
Basically what a clamshell iPhone would be is a iPhone4s (when folded) and iPhone7+ (when open) in one. Amazing.
Dude, you are crazy:))
That twi svreens connected with a hinge is nothing new and also not so complicated to manufacture. Even when some company would try to develop this further, it would be quite easy.
The main reason why it never happened is because it is STUPID:)
The holy grail here is to unfold small screen into a bigger one WITHOUT THE GAP connecting the screens. With the gap, the bigger screen is quite useless.
I think that you are in the wrong thread here and couple of decades late.
Why does something have to be complicated to be great?
And just because the idea has been around for a long time means nothing if it was not practical. The concept of electric cars has been around for 50+ years. Does not make anything Tesla doing any less special.
A foldable screen was not practical because of thickness.
There would be no cap connecting the screens. It would be edge to edge screen.
Two screens connected with a gap are neither complicated nor great.
Problem of a foldable screen is not in the thickness, but that it wont be uninterrupted!
And today we cannot connect two screens without visible connection line. More so in a foldable concept. The screen with the line right in the middle of it would be disruptive and therefore the whole concept would be useless.
Also, when folded, the edge of the screen would be too fragile without any bumper area.
As I have told you SEVERAL times, please dont comment on industrial design, you are clueless about it and you just embarrass yourself!
A gapless foldable screen is very possible.
Also if the phone folds inward then you wont have to worry about the edge of the screen getting cracked.
The only one embarrassing is you. You and you narrow mindedness.
You remind me of that Facebook clown who said innovation with smartphones is over
When you fold it inward, then you have to open it everytime you want to just glance on the display. You would need to have a third screen on the other side, all of this simply isnt practical, effective or ergonomic.
You have just proven that you also lack basic imagination.
Then in 2019-2025 it will be about thinner and foldable phones.
The Clamshell phone seemed to be popular in the USA but not elsewhere. IMHO, this seems to be a modern incarnation of these venerable devices. Quite how popular they would be in the rest of the world is an unknown factor to most of us.
I'd be concerned about the longevity of truly foldable displays. Things and materials work harden over time and use. I'd like to see the MTBF and open/close figures before even considering their use.
Finally, the social media addicts won't like these foldable phones at all. Instant gratification is the name of the game with them.
1. The main feature of a clamshell iPhone is not that its a clamshell. But you can have a very large screen that is pocketable. That will sell in China, Europe, anywhere.
2. Why would a hinge be a longlivity issue? Do you worry about the hinge on macbooks? This is basically the same thing.
3. Even in the folded position you can use the phone. It would be a 3.5 inch screen but still usable instantly.
Basically what a clamshell iPhone would be is a iPhone4s (when folded) and iPhone7+ (when open) in one. Amazing.
Dude, you are crazy:))
That twi svreens connected with a hinge is nothing new and also not so complicated to manufacture. Even when some company would try to develop this further, it would be quite easy.
The main reason why it never happened is because it is STUPID:)
The holy grail here is to unfold small screen into a bigger one WITHOUT THE GAP connecting the screens. With the gap, the bigger screen is quite useless.
I think that you are in the wrong thread here and couple of decades late.
Why does something have to be complicated to be great?
And just because the idea has been around for a long time means nothing if it was not practical. The concept of electric cars has been around for 50+ years. Does not make anything Tesla doing any less special.
A foldable screen was not practical because of thickness.
There would be no cap connecting the screens. It would be edge to edge screen.
Two screens connected with a gap are neither complicated nor great.
Problem of a foldable screen is not in the thickness, but that it wont be uninterrupted!
And today we cannot connect two screens without visible connection line. More so in a foldable concept. The screen with the line right in the middle of it would be disruptive and therefore the whole concept would be useless.
Also, when folded, the edge of the screen would be too fragile without any bumper area.
As I have told you SEVERAL times, please dont comment on industrial design, you are clueless about it and you just embarrass yourself!
A gapless foldable screen is very possible.
Gapless in the meaning, that you wont be able to see the gap on the display! Or the line where the displays connect!
And if you really think that, then your knowledge of displays, how they are made and basicaly of MATERIALS is even bigger joke.
Then in 2019-2025 it will be about thinner and foldable phones.
The Clamshell phone seemed to be popular in the USA but not elsewhere. IMHO, this seems to be a modern incarnation of these venerable devices. Quite how popular they would be in the rest of the world is an unknown factor to most of us.
I'd be concerned about the longevity of truly foldable displays. Things and materials work harden over time and use. I'd like to see the MTBF and open/close figures before even considering their use.
Finally, the social media addicts won't like these foldable phones at all. Instant gratification is the name of the game with them.
1. The main feature of a clamshell iPhone is not that its a clamshell. But you can have a very large screen that is pocketable. That will sell in China, Europe, anywhere.
2. Why would a hinge be a longlivity issue? Do you worry about the hinge on macbooks? This is basically the same thing.
3. Even in the folded position you can use the phone. It would be a 3.5 inch screen but still usable instantly.
Basically what a clamshell iPhone would be is a iPhone4s (when folded) and iPhone7+ (when open) in one. Amazing.
Dude, you are crazy:))
That twi svreens connected with a hinge is nothing new and also not so complicated to manufacture. Even when some company would try to develop this further, it would be quite easy.
The main reason why it never happened is because it is STUPID:)
The holy grail here is to unfold small screen into a bigger one WITHOUT THE GAP connecting the screens. With the gap, the bigger screen is quite useless.
I think that you are in the wrong thread here and couple of decades late.
Why does something have to be complicated to be great?
And just because the idea has been around for a long time means nothing if it was not practical. The concept of electric cars has been around for 50+ years. Does not make anything Tesla doing any less special.
A foldable screen was not practical because of thickness.
There would be no cap connecting the screens. It would be edge to edge screen.
Two screens connected with a gap are neither complicated nor great.
Problem of a foldable screen is not in the thickness, but that it wont be uninterrupted!
And today we cannot connect two screens without visible connection line. More so in a foldable concept. The screen with the line right in the middle of it would be disruptive and therefore the whole concept would be useless.
Also, when folded, the edge of the screen would be too fragile without any bumper area.
As I have told you SEVERAL times, please dont comment on industrial design, you are clueless about it and you just embarrass yourself!
A gapless foldable screen is very possible.
Also if the phone folds inward then you wont have to worry about the edge of the screen getting cracked.
The only one embarrassing is you. You and you narrow mindedness.
You remind me of that Facebook clown who said innovation with smartphones is over
When you fold it inward, then you have to open it everytime you want to just glance on the display. You would need to have a third screen on the other side, all of this simply isnt practical, effective or ergonomic.
You have just proven that you also lack basic imagination.
I am sorry, but the only clown here is you.
making a third screen is no problem at all.
Yes, there is no "problem". Only as I said it will be pricier and as I said it "isnt practical, effective or ergonomic." The article states this problem also. You are just ignorant.
Then in 2019-2025 it will be about thinner and foldable phones.
The Clamshell phone seemed to be popular in the USA but not elsewhere. IMHO, this seems to be a modern incarnation of these venerable devices. Quite how popular they would be in the rest of the world is an unknown factor to most of us.
I'd be concerned about the longevity of truly foldable displays. Things and materials work harden over time and use. I'd like to see the MTBF and open/close figures before even considering their use.
Finally, the social media addicts won't like these foldable phones at all. Instant gratification is the name of the game with them.
1. The main feature of a clamshell iPhone is not that its a clamshell. But you can have a very large screen that is pocketable. That will sell in China, Europe, anywhere.
2. Why would a hinge be a longlivity issue? Do you worry about the hinge on macbooks? This is basically the same thing.
3. Even in the folded position you can use the phone. It would be a 3.5 inch screen but still usable instantly.
Basically what a clamshell iPhone would be is a iPhone4s (when folded) and iPhone7+ (when open) in one. Amazing.
Dude, you are crazy:))
That twi svreens connected with a hinge is nothing new and also not so complicated to manufacture. Even when some company would try to develop this further, it would be quite easy.
The main reason why it never happened is because it is STUPID:)
The holy grail here is to unfold small screen into a bigger one WITHOUT THE GAP connecting the screens. With the gap, the bigger screen is quite useless.
I think that you are in the wrong thread here and couple of decades late.
Why does something have to be complicated to be great?
And just because the idea has been around for a long time means nothing if it was not practical. The concept of electric cars has been around for 50+ years. Does not make anything Tesla doing any less special.
A foldable screen was not practical because of thickness.
There would be no cap connecting the screens. It would be edge to edge screen.
Two screens connected with a gap are neither complicated nor great.
Problem of a foldable screen is not in the thickness, but that it wont be uninterrupted!
And today we cannot connect two screens without visible connection line. More so in a foldable concept. The screen with the line right in the middle of it would be disruptive and therefore the whole concept would be useless.
Also, when folded, the edge of the screen would be too fragile without any bumper area.
As I have told you SEVERAL times, please dont comment on industrial design, you are clueless about it and you just embarrass yourself!
A gapless foldable screen is very possible.
Gapless in the meaning, that you wont be able to see the gap on the display! Or the line where the displays connect!
And if you really think that, then your knowledge of displays, how they are made and basicaly of MATERIALS is even bigger joke.
gapless in a practical sense. Yes there will be gap, but you wont be able to see it
Yes you will. There is currently no display technology that will connect two separate displays without the noticable gap. Moreso when its up to user to connect them comfortly bazillion times in a row.
Even if you had two displays that would have pixels basically right on the edge (which is nonsense) the gap between two connected displays would have to be as small as the microgap between pixels!! Otherwise the gap would be bigger and you will see the difference. As I said, you lack basic imagination.
And if we would be able to make such display, we would have already screens without borders.
Btw, you are clearly ignoring the fragile edge without bumper when folded.
Then in 2019-2025 it will be about thinner and foldable phones.
The Clamshell phone seemed to be popular in the USA but not elsewhere. IMHO, this seems to be a modern incarnation of these venerable devices. Quite how popular they would be in the rest of the world is an unknown factor to most of us.
I'd be concerned about the longevity of truly foldable displays. Things and materials work harden over time and use. I'd like to see the MTBF and open/close figures before even considering their use.
Finally, the social media addicts won't like these foldable phones at all. Instant gratification is the name of the game with them.
1. The main feature of a clamshell iPhone is not that its a clamshell. But you can have a very large screen that is pocketable. That will sell in China, Europe, anywhere.
2. Why would a hinge be a longlivity issue? Do you worry about the hinge on macbooks? This is basically the same thing.
3. Even in the folded position you can use the phone. It would be a 3.5 inch screen but still usable instantly.
Basically what a clamshell iPhone would be is a iPhone4s (when folded) and iPhone7+ (when open) in one. Amazing.
Dude, you are crazy:))
That twi svreens connected with a hinge is nothing new and also not so complicated to manufacture. Even when some company would try to develop this further, it would be quite easy.
The main reason why it never happened is because it is STUPID:)
The holy grail here is to unfold small screen into a bigger one WITHOUT THE GAP connecting the screens. With the gap, the bigger screen is quite useless.
I think that you are in the wrong thread here and couple of decades late.
Why does something have to be complicated to be great?
And just because the idea has been around for a long time means nothing if it was not practical. The concept of electric cars has been around for 50+ years. Does not make anything Tesla doing any less special.
A foldable screen was not practical because of thickness.
There would be no cap connecting the screens. It would be edge to edge screen.
Two screens connected with a gap are neither complicated nor great.
Problem of a foldable screen is not in the thickness, but that it wont be uninterrupted!
And today we cannot connect two screens without visible connection line. More so in a foldable concept. The screen with the line right in the middle of it would be disruptive and therefore the whole concept would be useless.
Also, when folded, the edge of the screen would be too fragile without any bumper area.
As I have told you SEVERAL times, please dont comment on industrial design, you are clueless about it and you just embarrass yourself!
A gapless foldable screen is very possible.
Gapless in the meaning, that you wont be able to see the gap on the display! Or the line where the displays connect!
And if you really think that, then your knowledge of displays, how they are made and basicaly of MATERIALS is even bigger joke.
gapless in a practical sense. Yes there will be gap, but you wont be able to see it
Yes you will. There is currently no display technology that will connect two separate displays without the noticable gap. Moreso when its up to user to connect them comfortly bazillion times in a row.
And if we would be able to make such display, we would have already screens without borders.
And you are clearly ignoring the fragile edge without bumper when folded.
You are delusional:)
Thats your problem. You are only thinking about current technology
As I said, if what you present here is based on your imagination using nonexisting technologies, then you have none.
And btw, the problems I am describing arent based on "lack of more advanced technology".
Lets forget the display technology and lets just take the transparent cover. You are unable to connect two transparent materials without the noticable gap. Because of the laws of optics! Because the surface isnt two-dimensional.
Thats basic physics. If you plan to contradict that, well you are bigger clown than I thought you are:)
And btw, the problems I am describing arent based on "lack of more advanced technology".
Lets forget the display technology and lets just take the transparent cover. You are unable to connect two transparent materials without the noticable gap. Because of the laws of optics! Because the surface isnt two-dimensional.
Thats basic physics. If you plan to contradict that, well you are bigger clown than I thought you are:)
keep living in the technological past
bottom line is foldable iPhones are coming. Who knows what tech they will use, but its the next step after zero bezel.
I dont know what tech they will use, but what I know for sure is that they wont use your ancient Nintendo style. Because of the problems I described to you, which you tend to ignore and you just keep blabing the magical mantra of nonexisting technologies and ignoring basic laws of physics.
It would be really funny if I didnt know you are dead serious.
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And why would you need a "bendable" screen for it?
You're not making sense. First you say you want a flexible screen, then you say you want two flat screens with a hinge. What's so clever about that? They've been doing that since I was a kid.
You make your friends jealous with gadget envy!
Be the center of attention with your shiny new technology!
I'd be concerned about the longevity of truly foldable displays. Things and materials work harden over time and use. I'd like to see the MTBF and open/close figures before even considering their use.
Finally, the social media addicts won't like these foldable phones at all. Instant gratification is the name of the game with them.
That twi svreens connected with a hinge is nothing new and also not so complicated to manufacture. Even when some company would try to develop this further, it would be quite easy.
The main reason why it never happened is because it is STUPID:)
The holy grail here is to unfold small screen into a bigger one WITHOUT THE GAP connecting the screens. With the gap, the bigger screen is quite useless.
I think that you are in the wrong thread here and couple of decades late.
Inevitably, someone's going to fumble it while retrieving from their pocket or purse.
Problem of a foldable screen is not in the thickness, but that it wont be uninterrupted!
And today we cannot connect two screens without visible connection line. More so in a foldable concept. The screen with the line right in the middle of it would be disruptive and therefore the whole concept would be useless.
Also, when folded, the edge of the screen would be too fragile without any bumper area.
As I have told you SEVERAL times, please dont comment on industrial design, you are clueless about it and you just embarrass yourself!
You have just proven that you also lack basic imagination.
I am sorry, but the only clown here is you.
And if you really think that, then your knowledge of displays, how they are made and basicaly of MATERIALS is even bigger joke.
Even if you had two displays that would have pixels basically right on the edge (which is nonsense) the gap between two connected displays would have to be as small as the microgap between pixels!! Otherwise the gap would be bigger and you will see the difference. As I said, you lack basic imagination.
And if we would be able to make such display, we would have already screens without borders.
Btw, you are clearly ignoring the fragile edge without bumper when folded.
You are delusional:)
Lets forget the display technology and lets just take the transparent cover. You are unable to connect two transparent materials without the noticable gap. Because of the laws of optics! Because the surface isnt two-dimensional.
Thats basic physics. If you plan to contradict that, well you are bigger clown than I thought you are:)
It would be really funny if I didnt know you are dead serious.