An AppleInsider history lesson.
Googling around...
<a href="http://www.macobserver.com/editorial/2000/08/04.1.shtml" target="_blank">The original 2000 story.</a>
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The Mac Observer Spin: Apple is a paranoid company, but as the old saying goes, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!
Worker bee is a bad apple for sure. But it is AppleInsider that encourages this type of criminal activity. AppleInsider's forums are a sewer for losers in search of their long lost self-esteem. The nature of AppleInsider's business is closer to a porno site than a legitimate news source. They are part and parcel of that dark underbelly of the Internet we all know exists.
It's a shame that AppleInsider provides a comfortable home for a cabal of twerps who wish they were on the inside at Apple. But it's even worse that AppleInsider is fed by a few truly demented individuals who really are malicious moles in Apple or Apple-related organizations. Apple certainly has every right to hunt down NDA or IPA violators and prosecute them to the full extent of the law.
The Mac Faithful community should pester AppleInsider to change its foul ways. AppleInsider does not support or offer useful critiques of Apple Inc. in any way. In fact, AppleInsider is offering a forum for those who hate Apple and would sell out the company's secret for the mere approval of their pseudonymous cohorts. Is it possible that Kasper might work for an eMachines and would like to meet worker bee to offer him real cash for information on future products?
It appears that AppleInsider's forums do harbor true corporate spies and the forum chatter leads this observer to believe that money has changed hands in the past for Apple's trade secrets. Can AppleInsider be held liable for aiding and abetting criminal activities and shut down -- much like a social club that is in reality a front for prostitution or drug dealing?
AppleInsider will claim full protection under the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights to conduct these forums which are an offense to common decency. We are big supporters of the First Amendment right to free speech and to peaceably assemble. They have the right to publish just about anything they want. And we are well within our rights to call a den of thieves a den of thieves!<hr></blockquote>
So who are the real old timers around here. Who remembers this? I joined in 2001 so this is a solid year before my time.
<a href="http://www.macobserver.com/editorial/2000/08/04.1.shtml" target="_blank">The original 2000 story.</a>
[quote]
The Mac Observer Spin: Apple is a paranoid company, but as the old saying goes, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!
Worker bee is a bad apple for sure. But it is AppleInsider that encourages this type of criminal activity. AppleInsider's forums are a sewer for losers in search of their long lost self-esteem. The nature of AppleInsider's business is closer to a porno site than a legitimate news source. They are part and parcel of that dark underbelly of the Internet we all know exists.
It's a shame that AppleInsider provides a comfortable home for a cabal of twerps who wish they were on the inside at Apple. But it's even worse that AppleInsider is fed by a few truly demented individuals who really are malicious moles in Apple or Apple-related organizations. Apple certainly has every right to hunt down NDA or IPA violators and prosecute them to the full extent of the law.
The Mac Faithful community should pester AppleInsider to change its foul ways. AppleInsider does not support or offer useful critiques of Apple Inc. in any way. In fact, AppleInsider is offering a forum for those who hate Apple and would sell out the company's secret for the mere approval of their pseudonymous cohorts. Is it possible that Kasper might work for an eMachines and would like to meet worker bee to offer him real cash for information on future products?
It appears that AppleInsider's forums do harbor true corporate spies and the forum chatter leads this observer to believe that money has changed hands in the past for Apple's trade secrets. Can AppleInsider be held liable for aiding and abetting criminal activities and shut down -- much like a social club that is in reality a front for prostitution or drug dealing?
AppleInsider will claim full protection under the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights to conduct these forums which are an offense to common decency. We are big supporters of the First Amendment right to free speech and to peaceably assemble. They have the right to publish just about anything they want. And we are well within our rights to call a den of thieves a den of thieves!<hr></blockquote>
So who are the real old timers around here. Who remembers this? I joined in 2001 so this is a solid year before my time.
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pissed me off
hypocrits
But I don't recall the nasty article above. I might not have been paying attention that week.
I remember that story like it was YESTERDAY! I remember being pissed off, but then laughing at the article....felt like they were doing a line from Star Wars...something about Mos Eisley being a "hive of scum and villany".
I joined AI in January '99 and shortly ordered my Blue & White G3 within the next month or two. The Yosemite case was BRAND NEW back then. In fact, it was AI that first broke the story of the new form factor. Back then I dropped some cash for a matching flat panel monitor for the machine. I was very excited about that machine...and I still love that machine.
Before that, I occasionally saw something interesting from macobserver.com, linked on macsurfer.com, and visited macobserver.
since then I don't give them my clicks, click-throughs, or eyeballs
damn self-important assho1es !!
I remember that like it was yesterday. Worker Bee telling everyone the new Mac looks like a Kleenex Box and everyone just telling him he is lying and full of it. Ahhhh...great times indeed.
And on a little bit of a side note; a little bit ago when appleinsider.com stopped working and you had to go to forums.appleinsider.com (I think this was late summer) and nobody knew why for a while... does anybody know why? I was told by a friend that I think was told in appleinsider chat in iChat that it was because the MacNN server that AI is on was pinged to the point of crippling it. I also believe that they told me the ping came from Apple themselves... But, as you can tell by my extensive use of italics, I don't know how much of that I should believe.
Does anyone know whatever came of this? What happened to worker bee? How the trial turned out? Has this always been Jon's board?
The guy responsible for writing it normally seems to have a good head on his shoulders, but he definitely went tilting at windmills that time. Ah well. Luther said, if you must sin, sin boldly.
<strong>See what happens when you believe silly rumours iBrowse <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[oyvey]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, I have stupid friends anyway.
Not the most impressive, but not a n00bie.
Barto
I remember telling worker bee that I didn't believe him about the PowerBook G4 because Apple would *never* be crazy enough to drop a firewire port from the then current PowerBook G3 (Pismo). Still waiting for the first PowerBook G4 with more than one Firewire port to ship.
Vividly remember the whole WorkerBee thing. (but I think I miss MaDToOL/68K/Mrs.Tron more... )
<strong>I remember telling worker bee that I didn't believe him about the PowerBook G4 because Apple would *never* be crazy enough to drop a firewire port from the then current PowerBook G3 (Pismo). Still waiting for the first PowerBook G4 with more than one Firewire port to ship. </strong><hr></blockquote>
The 17" PowerBook has 2 (one 800 and one 400 specifically)
<strong>Has this always been Jon's board?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Jon only came on board after the 'great blackout'. Administration before that went roughly Kasper/Jeff (original founders) -> Mark -> EriMac -> seb/robo -> seb/Amorph -> Jon/Amorph -> Jon/Amorph/Brad
Yes, but I said I'm still waiting for it to ship.
Anyway, I remember when that happened. I never really believe what Workerbee had to say at the time.
I remember some of the oldies that never returned after the Great Blackout such as PowerMac G4 and PeterB and BarrySharp and...
Anyhow, I remember that article too. A number of people are still pissed at Mac Observer about it even today. I do indeed remember it well. It reeked of bullshit.
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