" ... including the ability to toggle the power management feature for iPhone models with aging batteries." The toggle should say 'Sensible mode' and 'Idiot mode.'
False. But kudos for the pretentious name calling.
The insistence that the throttlling is only for old batteries is inaccurate. Unless you consider a one year old battery with no prior instances of performance issues to be fair game for a 50-66% CPU downclock.
False, the throttling is far from 55% let alone 66%!!! Mine was less than 12% before the battery replacement. 30% when on high usage activities.
And IT IS idiotic choosing constant random resets and app crashes over a small decrease in performance.
If it bothers you so much just change the old depleted battery for cheap with Apple.
Very worth it!
Thanks for letting me know your experiences. Please be aware that your experiences do not speak for everyone else. You are lucky that your unannounced throttling is/was less than what I and others have been saddled with.
My 1 year old SE downclocks anywhere from 1500MHz to 600MHz. This is a very perceptible slowdown, with many apps becoming a stuttery chore to use. Miraculously, at full battery charge, the CPU comes back to near or full speed and everything works like a charm again.
Never experienced random shutdowns prior to the ios update.
I suspect that while Apple may have had good intentions with the feature, the implementation is too aggressive or perhaps too much of a blanket solution. Such that, even healthy batteries are given the downclock treatment when a more elegant solution would have excepted them.
Informing the consumer of this tweak and offering a choice would have been the right thing to do. I applaud the fact seekers who unearthed this issue and forced Apple's hand to come forward.
And when your phone crashes, forcing you to reinstall you and others that did it will likely whne about it... But hey, you had the choice so hopefully it will be a quiet whine.
Sigh.... Yes. I'm sure that this silent throttling was done in the best interest of customers, and nothing more. Even though Apple told me that my battery was fine when I tried to replace it mid December. I guess I'm the fool for not buying into the PR. ߙ䦬t;/div>
No, just for buying into paranoid nonsense conspiracy theories.
Users are giving out their observations (and the data where available) of their phones being throttled, etc, and are not swallowing Apple's PR with blind trust (because corporations are well known to lie and do things for their own financial advantage, including when it goes against consumer interests).
Calling it "paranoid nonsense conspiracy theories" is quite a bit of hyperbole.
What's your personal stake in Apple that you're so aggressive about defending them when there is clear evidence of them doing something secretive and only opening up about it after being challenged in a huge backlash once consumers/third-parties demonstrated the evidence?
This isn't where I was getting my info so I wish I could get this to play. Is there something wrong with that website at the moment? (iOS 10.x, iPhone 6s)
Hmm, I just tried the link on my Mac and iPhone and it works. If I just click it, it tries to take me into Overcast (maybe because I have the app installed). If I paste the link into Safari though (Mac or iOS), it seem to work fine on either. It's an episode of Today in iOS episode 454 at 18:01 in.
dysamoria said: What's your personal stake in Apple that you're so aggressive about defending them when there is clear evidence of them doing something secretive and only opening up about it after being challenged in a huge backlash once consumers/third-parties demonstrated the evidence?
I don't get this either. Apple is clearly in the wrong here, in a number of ways, in how they implemented and communicated this.
atomic101 said: I've downloaded the "Battery Health" app which shows anywhere from 14-20% battery wear.. Irrespective of what level of charge it's at.
Agreed that the battery shouldn't be an issue at this point. There hasn't been any noticeable decrease in battery life nor random crashes or shutdowns. I've owned three previous iPhones that, over the lifespan of use, have never experienced as dramatic a decrease in performance as my current SE.
Hmm, interesting. Thanks. I guess I got one of the good ones. I've still got it on my calendar to get a replacement in Nov/Dec before the program expires (no matter the state of the battery).
Just a quick update for now... I bit the bullet and decided to go ahead with the battery replacement instead of waiting for Apple's "spring" software update on the throttling debacle.
Suffice it to say that my SE feels like a brand new phone again!!! 😁. It runs buttery smooth and is a joy to use, just as I remember it when I first picked it up a year and a half ago. The benchmarks and clockspeed utilities corroborate with this perception, as my phone shows a constant 1800ish MHz clockspeed no matter the battery charge level. In fact, as the new battery was only at about 10% capacity when I retrieved it from the tech, I was shocked to see that even at that low charge it was still running full speed (battery saver feature turned off). A quick Geekbench test also supported my finding.
To all the naysayers, it wasn't the old hardware (CPU) that couldn't keep up with iOS 11... It was Apple's throttling implementation that made my phone feel like it was running an A6 or A7 chip, and not the A9 as advertised. I'm just glad that Apple "allowed" me to replace the battery on this occasion after my previous experience (before their PR campaign kicked into high gear.)😒
I took some before and after screen grabs from the battery and CPU utilities and will look into sharing them when I get home.
Other than that, I'm psyched! Feels so good to use my phone now!
As promised... nothing fancy, but here is a quick before and after
comparison of two diagnostic utilities (Battery Health and CPU Dasher
X). I'm sure there is some variability to this data, as it's not a
professional analysis. Also note, the battery app has been wavering
between 80% and 73% health in recent days, as I've just gone over 500
charging cycles on the old battery.
Just before dropping it off to be replaced... note the current CPU frequency:
And after the battery replacement... note that the charge level is at 10% and the battery health wavers between 98-100% health:
Night and day difference in performance. The phone is snappy and smooth now, much like when I first got it.
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Users are giving out their observations (and the data where available) of their phones being throttled, etc, and are not swallowing Apple's PR with blind trust (because corporations are well known to lie and do things for their own financial advantage, including when it goes against consumer interests).
Calling it "paranoid nonsense conspiracy theories" is quite a bit of hyperbole.
What's your personal stake in Apple that you're so aggressive about defending them when there is clear evidence of them doing something secretive and only opening up about it after being challenged in a huge backlash once consumers/third-parties demonstrated the evidence?
I don't get this either. Apple is clearly in the wrong here, in a number of ways, in how they implemented and communicated this.
Suffice it to say that my SE feels like a brand new phone again!!! 😁. It runs buttery smooth and is a joy to use, just as I remember it when I first picked it up a year and a half ago. The benchmarks and clockspeed utilities corroborate with this perception, as my phone shows a constant 1800ish MHz clockspeed no matter the battery charge level. In fact, as the new battery was only at about 10% capacity when I retrieved it from the tech, I was shocked to see that even at that low charge it was still running full speed (battery saver feature turned off). A quick Geekbench test also supported my finding.
To all the naysayers, it wasn't the old hardware (CPU) that couldn't keep up with iOS 11... It was Apple's throttling implementation that made my phone feel like it was running an A6 or A7 chip, and not the A9 as advertised. I'm just glad that Apple "allowed" me to replace the battery on this occasion after my previous experience (before their PR campaign kicked into high gear.)😒
I took some before and after screen grabs from the battery and CPU utilities and will look into sharing them when I get home.
Other than that, I'm psyched! Feels so good to use my phone now!
Just before dropping it off to be replaced... note the current CPU frequency:
And after the battery replacement... note that the charge level is at 10% and the battery health wavers between 98-100% health:
Night and day difference in performance. The phone is snappy and smooth now, much like when I first got it.