And its not like your Mac just stops working just because you're not using Apple's latest version of macOS. You can still easily use your Mac with High Sierra for at least 2-3yrs if you choose to do so.
Heck my company forces the Macs to run on El Capitan, despite being able to run High Sierra, and this will likely continue until their next scheduled replacement in 5 years.
Wow, that's incredibly shortsighted of them. Whoever implemented that policy should be fired on security grounds alone.
What do they do about replacements for failed units, or new Macs for new positions? Those are going to come with High Sierra, and most won't work — one exception is the Mac Mini, which of course isn't what you'd call "new" — with El Cap.
Apple seems to be drawing some line in the sand at 2012 with these, as it's obvious that a Macbook Air 2012 (supported) with Intel HD 4000 has FAR LESS graphics ability (practically NONE) than slightly older (and not supported) Macbook Pro or 2009 Mac Pro with better discrete graphics.
And its not like your Mac just stops working just because you're not using Apple's latest version of macOS. You can still easily use your Mac with High Sierra for at least 2-3yrs if you choose to do so.
Heck my company forces the Macs to run on El Capitan, despite being able to run High Sierra, and this will likely continue until their next scheduled replacement in 5 years.
Wow, that's incredibly shortsighted of them. Whoever implemented that policy should be fired on security grounds alone.
What do they do about replacements for failed units, or new Macs for new positions? Those are going to come with High Sierra, and most won't work — one exception is the Mac Mini, which of course isn't what you'd call "new" — with El Cap.
My company has almost 10,000 employees worldwide. The number one priority is maintaining the stability of the network as with most corporate IT departments. That’s why companies ran XT until Microsoft said enough. They typically don’t buy new Mac hardware that won’t support the required minimums (and given the unsold Macs in the supply chain for many months after a model is discontinued, that’s not hard to do). Since Apple supports security updates for many years, unlike iOS, that’s not really an issue, or hasn’t been. If something happens to my Mac, they replace it with an identical model, while it’s being repaired. If an employee requires a new Mac for some specialized purpose, it is usually only allowed to connect to the network in a limited fashion, if at all, and requires significant approvals. Standard issue Macs all meet minimum requirements (and I suspect they overbought With bulk discounts to serve as backups and new hires under one capital depreciation purchase). The timeline for advancement could accelerate given how quickly IT is able to asses a new OS stability and compatibility with the network, but there’s no world in which they will need to run Mojave.
This seems like standard practice for most major, non-tech, corporations to me.
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This is pretty disgusting. Perhaps the most upsetting thing to come out of Apple in some time. We're starting to see the writing on the wall. First Apple charges a hefty penny for their hardware, and we swallow that because we want quality and understand that our investments last a long time. Now they are turning back on us in this area. I am no longer compatible with their mentality as a developer. Apple was a developer-centric company because they understood that making developers happy first was the most effective way to get high quality software.
There is still no option that is as good as macOS. That's just a fact, but at least Microsoft is trying. They look like a lumbering blind giant bumbling around and falling down on their face again and again (especially with the Windows 10 stability issues and their abysmal UI choices), but they are trying. Apple is basically not growing in this regard and is masking it's efforts as preparing for the future. Well Apple, it's definitely not for OUR future - but rather for YOUR future.
MS could snatch away a huge and important group if they'd just emulate the user experience and interface we're used to on macOS and simultaneously bring Linux under its umbrella via a reworked macOS-like user experience. Jobs knew how to do this and he did it with NeXT.
This is pretty disgusting. Perhaps the most upsetting thing to come out of Apple in some time. We're starting to see the writing on the wall. First Apple charges a hefty penny for their hardware, and we swallow that because we want quality and understand that our investments last a long time. Now they are turning back on us in this area. I am no longer compatible with their mentality as a developer. Apple was a developer-centric company because they understood that making developers happy first was the most effective way to get high quality software.
There is still no option that is as good as macOS. That's just a fact, but at least Microsoft is trying. They look like a lumbering blind giant bumbling around and falling down on their face again and again (especially with the Windows 10 stability issues and their abysmal UI choices), but they are trying. Apple is basically not growing in this regard and is masking it's efforts as preparing for the future. Well Apple, it's definitely not for OUR future - but rather for YOUR future.
MS could snatch away a huge and important group if they'd just emulate the user experience and interface we're used to on macOS and simultaneously bring Linux under its umbrella via a reworked macOS-like user experience. Jobs knew how to do this and he did it with NeXT.
And its not like your Mac just stops working just because you're not using Apple's latest version of macOS. You can still easily use your Mac with High Sierra for at least 2-3yrs if you choose to do so.
Heck my company forces the Macs to run on El Capitan, despite being able to run High Sierra, and this will likely continue until their next scheduled replacement in 5 years.
Wow, that's incredibly shortsighted of them. Whoever implemented that policy should be fired on security grounds alone.
What do they do about replacements for failed units, or new Macs for new positions? Those are going to come with High Sierra, and most won't work — one exception is the Mac Mini, which of course isn't what you'd call "new" — with El Cap.
Has Apple dropped support for El Cap? No future security updates for that?
This is pretty disgusting. Perhaps the most upsetting thing to come out of Apple in some time. We're starting to see the writing on the wall. First Apple charges a hefty penny for their hardware, and we swallow that because we want quality and understand that our investments last a long time. Now they are turning back on us in this area. I am no longer compatible with their mentality as a developer. Apple was a developer-centric company because they understood that making developers happy first was the most effective way to get high quality software.
There is still no option that is as good as macOS. That's just a fact, but at least Microsoft is trying. They look like a lumbering blind giant bumbling around and falling down on their face again and again (especially with the Windows 10 stability issues and their abysmal UI choices), but they are trying. Apple is basically not growing in this regard and is masking it's efforts as preparing for the future. Well Apple, it's definitely not for OUR future - but rather for YOUR future.
MS could snatch away a huge and important group if they'd just emulate the user experience and interface we're used to on macOS and simultaneously bring Linux under its umbrella via a reworked macOS-like user experience. Jobs knew how to do this and he did it with NeXT.
The 2012 Mac Mini bumped with 16GB of RAM, easily outperforms any new Mac Mini that is currently being sold, so I fail to understand why they would obsolete this line anytime soon.
Reading comprehension problems? As the article states, the 2012 Mac Mini is still going to be supported. It's the 2011 model (and earlier) which aren't supported.
This is pretty disgusting. Perhaps the most upsetting thing to come out of Apple in some time. We're starting to see the writing on the wall. First Apple charges a hefty penny for their hardware, and we swallow that because we want quality and understand that our investments last a long time. Now they are turning back on us in this area. I am no longer compatible with their mentality as a developer. Apple was a developer-centric company because they understood that making developers happy first was the most effective way to get high quality software.
There is still no option that is as good as macOS. That's just a fact, but at least Microsoft is trying. They look like a lumbering blind giant bumbling around and falling down on their face again and again (especially with the Windows 10 stability issues and their abysmal UI choices), but they are trying. Apple is basically not growing in this regard and is masking it's efforts as preparing for the future. Well Apple, it's definitely not for OUR future - but rather for YOUR future.
MS could snatch away a huge and important group if they'd just emulate the user experience and interface we're used to on macOS and simultaneously bring Linux under its umbrella via a reworked macOS-like user experience. Jobs knew how to do this and he did it with NeXT.
Apple has lost its way.
What you mean that if Steve were here...Apple wouldn't be doing this. Ha!
Perhaps a similar disclaimer would have come in handy as I installed iOS update on my iPad Air last week. It took 24 hours to brick and no one seems to have a solution.
Which means that, across the entire lineup, they're supporting everything back to at least late 2012.
But but...my 15yr old Mac should be able to run the latest and greatest macOS every year! How shortsighted of Apple to remove support for 15yr old Macs!
Apple seems to be drawing some line in the sand at 2012 with these, as it's obvious that a Macbook Air 2012 (supported) with Intel HD 4000 has FAR LESS graphics ability (practically NONE) than slightly older (and not supported) Macbook Pro or 2009 Mac Pro with better discrete graphics.
You think there is still MacPro4,1 out there that wasn't updated to a MacPro5,1?
I don't think you will be able to boot a system with an Intel HD 3000 CPU if the OS doesn't have the AppleIntelHD3000Graphics extension anymore. And I'm pretty sure the system only tries to boot using the IGP. Owning a 2011 MBP with a Radeon HD6770M I hope someone will make a workaround... Anyhow I definitely will not replace this machine!
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What do they do about replacements for failed units, or new Macs for new positions? Those are going to come with High Sierra, and most won't work — one exception is the Mac Mini, which of course isn't what you'd call "new" — with El Cap.
This seems like standard practice for most major, non-tech, corporations to me.
My mums 2009 17” MacBook Pro runs High Sierra like a dream despite not being officially supported.
What you mean that if Steve were here...Apple wouldn't be doing this. Ha!
Old MacBook (last model is mid 2010)
Current MacBook (first model is early 2015)
Which means that, across the entire lineup, they're supporting everything back to at least late 2012.
I don't think you will be able to boot a system with an Intel HD 3000 CPU if the OS doesn't have the AppleIntelHD3000Graphics extension anymore. And I'm pretty sure the system only tries to boot using the IGP.
Owning a 2011 MBP with a Radeon HD6770M I hope someone will make a workaround... Anyhow I definitely will not replace this machine!