Every iPhone user is tied to Saudi business interests, like it or not

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  • Reply 81 of 83
    bulk001 said:
    Great article and thank you for taking a stand!
    Yes, We are all connected. I second the notion that Appleinsider should be on the side of the USER. Fight for us AppleInsider, be TRON ... fight for the USER!!

    "If we don't STAND for anything does that mean we stand for NOTHING?"

    Obiwanbill
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  • Reply 82 of 83
    bb-15bb-15 Posts: 283member
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    Why Apple should do all it can to disengage from the Saudi regime.
    ....
    That's kind of a slippery slope with a lot of fine lines...   An equally valid case could be made that Apple should disengage with the U.S.:
    --  During the Bush administration we kidnapped, tortured and imprisoned private citizens without charges or legitimate trial.
    --  During the Obama administration we executed countless people guilty and innocent alike using drones and special operations.
    --  Our current leader has been termed a racist, fascist and misogynist who regularly incites hatred and violence -- particularly against the press and its reporters -- that recently resulted in a rash of domestic terrorism.

    That's not to trash the U.S. or any of its presidents.  Similar allegations could be made against most countries.

    It is meant to point out that going there not only crosses a very fine line but it starts down the infamous slippery slope.
    Agreed. Many nations in the world do questionable/violent things; like China, Russia, the US, several nations in Africa, Asia, the Middle-East and Latin America. 
    If Apple stopped selling products (disengaged) in nations which do inappropriate violent behavior, then Apple will cease at least half of its sales.
    * Apple is correct to speak out for human rights. Apple is right to improve the working conditions in making its products and to maintain a high level of safety (compared with the industry) in designing & supporting its products.  
    - But it is not up to Apple to change the political systems of the world.
    * Apple sells products. If people want to buy what Apple sells, no matter where they live, then Apple should do its best to sell their hardware/software/services to these customers.  
    GeorgeBMac
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  • Reply 83 of 83
    GeorgeBMacgeorgebmac Posts: 11,421member
    bb-15 said:
    ...
    Why Apple should do all it can to disengage from the Saudi regime.
    ....
    That's kind of a slippery slope with a lot of fine lines...   An equally valid case could be made that Apple should disengage with the U.S.:
    --  During the Bush administration we kidnapped, tortured and imprisoned private citizens without charges or legitimate trial.
    --  During the Obama administration we executed countless people guilty and innocent alike using drones and special operations.
    --  Our current leader has been termed a racist, fascist and misogynist who regularly incites hatred and violence -- particularly against the press and its reporters -- that recently resulted in a rash of domestic terrorism.

    That's not to trash the U.S. or any of its presidents.  Similar allegations could be made against most countries.

    It is meant to point out that going there not only crosses a very fine line but it starts down the infamous slippery slope.
    Agreed. Many nations in the world do questionable/violent things; like China, Russia, the US, several nations in Africa, Asia, the Middle-East and Latin America. 
    If Apple stopped selling products (disengaged) in nations which do inappropriate violent behavior, then Apple will cease at least half of its sales.
    * Apple is correct to speak out for human rights. Apple is right to improve the working conditions in making its products and to maintain a high level of safety (compared with the industry) in designing & supporting its products.  
    - But it is not up to Apple to change the political systems of the world.
    * Apple sells products. If people want to buy what Apple sells, no matter where they live, then Apple should do its best to sell their hardware/software/services to these customers.  
    That was well said...
    I would only add/clarify that any attempt by Apple to change the behavior of a particular nation would likely be fruitless despite being well intentioned.
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