A 30% cut is ridiculous in 2020, and their ability to push their own software and reject others is also a clear example of that behavior, including the fact you can’t change your default email client, music software, navigation software, etc. Being a ‘third party’ always is second to ‘first party’ Apple.
What does 2020 have to do with anything? Are you one of those who say "it's [current year], people can do what they want!!" and update the year every year with the same message?
It really gets tiring to see iOS developers complain about Apple, seeming to show no awareness that if it weren’t for Apple’s App Store many of them wouldn’t even have jobs in the first place (no resources to start a company and to sell their work). We so quickly become entitled, like we deserve the good things we have, even when they come from someone else.
THIS.
And if it weren't for third party developers creating apps, the iPhone quite possibly wouldn't have nearly been as successful. It flows both ways. If Apple want the benefits of a rich app ecosystem then they should play fair with developers. If Apple really are ripping off Tile's idea and using their platform owner position as leverage over a developer in their ecosystem, then where's your criticism of their entitlement?
Apple didn't build their technology in a sealed off bunker, they stood on the shoulders of other giants. That's fine, but now they're a giant, and it seem liike all too often they're flicking off and stomping on the newcomers who are trying to stand on their shoulders just a little bit.
No. That argument only holds water if the iPhone became popular while Apple did not charge the 30% fee for apps. The fact is, that 30% has always been in place and both the iPhone and App Store became hugely successful despite that. Apple has and does play fair with developers, but they cannot play fair with EVERYONE. There will be some that lose out due to the natural evolution of the platform, which has to compete with other platforms.
Furthermore, it is Apple's hardware, and iOS only runs on Apple's hardware and always has. Developers know this. And they know Apple will always have some kind of advantage because they create the whole widget.
I don't really know what the 30% cut is supposed to do with this, the OP that brought that up appears to just be ranting, and I don't agree with his point.
The problem here is that Apple are providing both a product and a platform. The two not particularly compatible and create a conflict of interest. I think the greater value of iOS is as a platform, I use non-Apple apps far more than I use Apple apps, so I wish Apple would stop pulling this shit.
Based on your reasoning, Apple offering even the default weather app is a ‘conflict’
The app ecosystem is thriving, the vast majority of downloads are free, consumers LOVE it, and Apple has less than 15% market share. Last, iOS 14 will allow users to set non-Apple services as defaults
So please stop with the drama and trying to create a mythical problem
A 30% cut is ridiculous in 2020, and their ability to push their own software and reject others is also a clear example of that behavior, including the fact you can’t change your default email client, music software, navigation software, etc. Being a ‘third party’ always is second to ‘first party’ Apple.
What does 2020 have to do with anything? Are you one of those who say "it's [current year], people can do what they want!!" and update the year every year with the same message?
It really gets tiring to see iOS developers complain about Apple, seeming to show no awareness that if it weren’t for Apple’s App Store many of them wouldn’t even have jobs in the first place (no resources to start a company and to sell their work). We so quickly become entitled, like we deserve the good things we have, even when they come from someone else.
THIS.
And if it weren't for third party developers creating apps, the iPhone quite possibly wouldn't have nearly been as successful. It flows both ways. If Apple want the benefits of a rich app ecosystem then they should play fair with developers. If Apple really are ripping off Tile's idea and using their platform owner position as leverage over a developer in their ecosystem, then where's your criticism of their entitlement?
Apple didn't build their technology in a sealed off bunker, they stood on the shoulders of other giants. That's fine, but now they're a giant, and it seem liike all too often they're flicking off and stomping on the newcomers who are trying to stand on their shoulders just a little bit.
No. That argument only holds water if the iPhone became popular while Apple did not charge the 30% fee for apps. The fact is, that 30% has always been in place and both the iPhone and App Store became hugely successful despite that. Apple has and does play fair with developers, but they cannot play fair with EVERYONE. There will be some that lose out due to the natural evolution of the platform, which has to compete with other platforms.
Furthermore, it is Apple's hardware, and iOS only runs on Apple's hardware and always has. Developers know this. And they know Apple will always have some kind of advantage because they create the whole widget.
I don't really know what the 30% cut is supposed to do with this, the OP that brought that up appears to just be ranting, and I don't agree with his point.
The problem here is that Apple are providing both a product and a platform. The two not particularly compatible and create a conflict of interest. I think the greater value of iOS is as a platform, I use non-Apple apps far more than I use Apple apps, so I wish Apple would stop pulling this shit.
Based on your reasoning, Apple offering even the default weather app is a ‘conflict’
The app ecosystem is thriving, the vast majority of downloads are free, consumers LOVE it, and Apple has less than 15% market share. Last, iOS 14 will allow users to set non-Apple services as defaults
So please stop with the drama and trying to create a mythical problem
I'm writing in response to a news story.
I’m speaking broadly to everyone and these companies who are inventing an issue
A 30% cut is ridiculous in 2020, and their ability to push their own software and reject others is also a clear example of that behavior, including the fact you can’t change your default email client, music software, navigation software, etc. Being a ‘third party’ always is second to ‘first party’ Apple.
What does 2020 have to do with anything? Are you one of those who say "it's [current year], people can do what they want!!" and update the year every year with the same message?
It really gets tiring to see iOS developers complain about Apple, seeming to show no awareness that if it weren’t for Apple’s App Store many of them wouldn’t even have jobs in the first place (no resources to start a company and to sell their work). We so quickly become entitled, like we deserve the good things we have, even when they come from someone else.
THIS.
And if it weren't for third party developers creating apps, the iPhone quite possibly wouldn't have nearly been as successful. It flows both ways. If Apple want the benefits of a rich app ecosystem then they should play fair with developers. If Apple really are ripping off Tile's idea and using their platform owner position as leverage over a developer in their ecosystem, then where's your criticism of their entitlement?
Apple didn't build their technology in a sealed off bunker, they stood on the shoulders of other giants. That's fine, but now they're a giant, and it seem liike all too often they're flicking off and stomping on the newcomers who are trying to stand on their shoulders just a little bit.
No. That argument only holds water if the iPhone became popular while Apple did not charge the 30% fee for apps. The fact is, that 30% has always been in place and both the iPhone and App Store became hugely successful despite that. Apple has and does play fair with developers, but they cannot play fair with EVERYONE. There will be some that lose out due to the natural evolution of the platform, which has to compete with other platforms.
Furthermore, it is Apple's hardware, and iOS only runs on Apple's hardware and always has. Developers know this. And they know Apple will always have some kind of advantage because they create the whole widget.
I don't really know what the 30% cut is supposed to do with this, the OP that brought that up appears to just be ranting, and I don't agree with his point.
The problem here is that Apple are providing both a product and a platform. The two not particularly compatible and create a conflict of interest. I think the greater value of iOS is as a platform, I use non-Apple apps far more than I use Apple apps, so I wish Apple would stop pulling this shit.
Based on your reasoning, Apple offering even the default weather app is a ‘conflict’
The app ecosystem is thriving, the vast majority of downloads are free, consumers LOVE it, and Apple has less than 15% market share. Last, iOS 14 will allow users to set non-Apple services as defaults
So please stop with the drama and trying to create a mythical problem
I'm writing in response to a news story.
I’m speaking broadly to everyone and these companies who are inventing an issue
Because being uncritical of corporate behaviour is such a sensible stance.
A 30% cut is ridiculous in 2020, and their ability to push their own software and reject others is also a clear example of that behavior, including the fact you can’t change your default email client, music software, navigation software, etc. Being a ‘third party’ always is second to ‘first party’ Apple.
What does 2020 have to do with anything? Are you one of those who say "it's [current year], people can do what they want!!" and update the year every year with the same message?
It really gets tiring to see iOS developers complain about Apple, seeming to show no awareness that if it weren’t for Apple’s App Store many of them wouldn’t even have jobs in the first place (no resources to start a company and to sell their work). We so quickly become entitled, like we deserve the good things we have, even when they come from someone else.
THIS.
And if it weren't for third party developers creating apps, the iPhone quite possibly wouldn't have nearly been as successful. It flows both ways. If Apple want the benefits of a rich app ecosystem then they should play fair with developers. If Apple really are ripping off Tile's idea and using their platform owner position as leverage over a developer in their ecosystem, then where's your criticism of their entitlement?
Apple didn't build their technology in a sealed off bunker, they stood on the shoulders of other giants. That's fine, but now they're a giant, and it seem liike all too often they're flicking off and stomping on the newcomers who are trying to stand on their shoulders just a little bit.
Apple was the first smartphone manufacturer with UWB, so that fact that Tile is still BT, ie, obsolete, has more bearing on this market than Apple's "anti-competitive" behavior.
Tile, create a UWB device, then fucking complain about Apple. Until then, enjoy the spiraling death of your niche product.
A 30% cut is ridiculous in 2020, and their ability to push their own software and reject others is also a clear example of that behavior, including the fact you can’t change your default email client, music software, navigation software, etc. Being a ‘third party’ always is second to ‘first party’ Apple.
You are another dreamer thinking that companies expenses are 'X' and charging 'Y' for a service is too much. There are a lot of people making plenty of money in the App Store and they are not complaining. As I have always said before Apple is a small player under the shadow of Android. If you do not like Apple products and their business operations take your money somewhere else.
Tile is a product that will be obsolete shortly when items have built-in bluetooth trackers. Expect to see it in retail items of any value soon thus eliminating the need for separate objects. A good idea that has lost its relevancy.
A 30% cut is ridiculous in 2020, and their ability to push their own software and reject others is also a clear example of that behavior, including the fact you can’t change your default email client, music software, navigation software, etc. Being a ‘third party’ always is second to ‘first party’ Apple.
What does 2020 have to do with anything? Are you one of those who say "it's [current year], people can do what they want!!" and update the year every year with the same message?
It really gets tiring to see iOS developers complain about Apple, seeming to show no awareness that if it weren’t for Apple’s App Store many of them wouldn’t even have jobs in the first place (no resources to start a company and to sell their work). We so quickly become entitled, like we deserve the good things we have, even when they come from someone else.
THIS.
And if it weren't for third party developers creating apps, the iPhone quite possibly wouldn't have nearly been as successful. It flows both ways. If Apple want the benefits of a rich app ecosystem then they should play fair with developers. If Apple really are ripping off Tile's idea and using their platform owner position as leverage over a developer in their ecosystem, then where's your criticism of their entitlement?
Apple didn't build their technology in a sealed off bunker, they stood on the shoulders of other giants. That's fine, but now they're a giant, and it seem liike all too often they're flicking off and stomping on the newcomers who are trying to stand on their shoulders just a little bit.
No. That argument only holds water if the iPhone became popular while Apple did not charge the 30% fee for apps. The fact is, that 30% has always been in place and both the iPhone and App Store became hugely successful despite that. Apple has and does play fair with developers, but they cannot play fair with EVERYONE. There will be some that lose out due to the natural evolution of the platform, which has to compete with other platforms.
Furthermore, it is Apple's hardware, and iOS only runs on Apple's hardware and always has. Developers know this. And they know Apple will always have some kind of advantage because they create the whole widget.
I don't really know what the 30% cut is supposed to do with this, the OP that brought that up appears to just be ranting, and I don't agree with his point.
The problem here is that Apple are providing both a product and a platform. The two not particularly compatible and create a conflict of interest. I think the greater value of iOS is as a platform, I use non-Apple apps far more than I use Apple apps, so I wish Apple would stop pulling this shit.
The product and platform are what is called a solution and it happens to be the best solution available. The alternative is Android and it is a mess. Since you are someone who uses non-Apple apps you are not affected by this. I want security to get the highest priority. Supporting third-parties is a few notches down.
@crowley As for the idea that Apple is ripping off tile...the nation is built on ripping off people (your words), otherwise known as innovation. Keep innovating or be overtaken.
Please allow the developers use the full potential and resources of the phone freely (provided they follow the proper safety guidelines) but don't get yourselves into a PR battle... in the end it is Apple image which will get damaged in the end.
The more resources available for developers, the better for the iPhone ecosystem. The better for Apple too. Who cares if some developers create some overlapping with your products. I'll buy the Apple tiles anyway. But, give them the f^^^ing "Always Allow" and stop this nonsense.
Always connection is in my opinion, it just collect too much data..
Unless Tile open their code and show they don't collect any location data from user, their claim is simply we can't collect free location information from iPhone user.
I don't care if location data share between their app and tile dongle. But I don't want to background running app sending my location data to them.
Also stop selling their product means anything.. Simply how much do you sold from Apple store?
Any store real estate is money.. if your product(s) don't sell then store owner will remove your product(s) out of store shelf. That simple.
Why Apple have to give you space in Apple's own store that does not sell?
Apple may not lunch any location product. Rumor does not mean anything.. Unless actual lunch the product it is just vapor ware.
I wonder why even apple wants to lunch location product for?
Instead all Apple product has U1 chip that communicate each other Apple product location.
Also U1 chip is Apple's own design hardware. If Apple does not want to share anyone in the world then it is their own decision. No one can say you can not do that.
Did Tile chip in some development money for U1 chip?
More and more, bio metric key eliminate the physical key or wallet, The Tile product will be phase out soon or later..
Apple even bought Dark sky app because they can collect better geo sync data.
If Tile can do better then share location then Apple then they already bought.
A 30% cut is ridiculous in 2020, and their ability to push their own software and reject others is also a clear example of that behavior, including the fact you can’t change your default email client, music software, navigation software, etc. Being a ‘third party’ always is second to ‘first party’ Apple.
You do know that Google and Amazon also charge a 30% cut!!! Yep!!!
Or you as a company can do what HBO, Amazon, and others have done. Sign up at their web site directly. You can even use Safari on your iOS device. Now Apple is hosting these apps and getting nothing from them. Every new Update, everyone is downloading it. It costing Apple money. I just don't think it's a big deal. I think people are smart enough that if they can't log in from the app, that they should go directly to the company's app page and create an account there. Pay there of course. Then you can just sign into whatever app they have. I don't see it as a big deal.
Tile is a product that will be obsolete shortly when items have built-in bluetooth trackers. Expect to see it in retail items of any value soon thus eliminating the need for separate objects. A good idea that has lost its relevancy.
Ok, that's just not doing to happen anytime soon or 'shortly'. While Tiles could be used for retail items of any value, that's just not the market they've pursued.
'Any value' is subjective, and there will not be a wide scale implementation of built-in BT tracking. Even if there were, a separate standalone Tile-like product that works well will always have a place.
Personally, I'd like someone to develop a home RFID item tracker. Put some tags on commonly placed or "borrowed" items that are too small to use with a BT tracker. And items that may see the great outdoors could have both trackers. RFID doesn't have the range of BT, but it has it's uses. And no batteries to go dead.
Tile is a product that will be obsolete shortly when items have built-in bluetooth trackers. Expect to see it in retail items of any value soon thus eliminating the need for separate objects. A good idea that has lost its relevancy.
Ok, that's just not doing to happen anytime soon or 'shortly'. While Tiles could be used for retail items of any value, that's just not the market they've pursued.
'Any value' is subjective, and there will not be a wide scale implementation of built-in BT tracking. Even if there were, a separate standalone Tile-like product that works well will always have a place.
Personally, I'd like someone to develop a home RFID item tracker. Put some tags on commonly placed or "borrowed" items that are too small to use with a BT tracker. And items that may see the great outdoors could have both trackers. RFID doesn't have the range of BT, but it has it's uses. And no batteries to go dead.
Please allow the developers use the full potential and resources of the phone freely (provided they follow the proper safety guidelines) but don't get yourselves into a PR battle... in the end it is Apple image which will get damaged in the end.
The more resources available for developers, the better for the iPhone ecosystem. The better for Apple too. Who cares if some developers create some overlapping with your products. I'll buy the Apple tiles anyway. But, give them the f^^^ing "Always Allow" and stop this nonsense.
If you don’t understand why Apple does this then I suggest you read the long and frightening history of Zoom.
The damage to Apple’s reputation will come when one of these third parties causes a massive breach because Apple gave them too much access.
And if you give all third parties “always allow” then how long do you think an iPhone battery will last? About 2 hours I reckon.
A 30% cut is ridiculous in 2020, and their ability to push their own software and reject others is also a clear example of that behavior, including the fact you can’t change your default email client, music software, navigation software, etc. Being a ‘third party’ always is second to ‘first party’ Apple.
It really isn’t. I’ve launched products in retail, and that is what you’d expect to pay your distributors and the retailer in markups. Less, in fact. You just aren’t aware of it.
A 30% cut is ridiculous in 2020, and their ability to push their own software and reject others is also a clear example of that behavior, including the fact you can’t change your default email client, music software, navigation software, etc. Being a ‘third party’ always is second to ‘first party’ Apple.
What does 2020 have to do with anything? Are you one of those who say "it's [current year], people can do what they want!!" and update the year every year with the same message?
It really gets tiring to see iOS developers complain about Apple, seeming to show no awareness that if it weren’t for Apple’s App Store many of them wouldn’t even have jobs in the first place (no resources to start a company and to sell their work). We so quickly become entitled, like we deserve the good things we have, even when they come from someone else.
THIS.
And if it weren't for third party developers creating apps, the iPhone quite possibly wouldn't have nearly been as successful. It flows both ways. If Apple want the benefits of a rich app ecosystem then they should play fair with developers. If Apple really are ripping off Tile's idea and using their platform owner position as leverage over a developer in their ecosystem, then where's your criticism of their entitlement?
Apple didn't build their technology in a sealed off bunker, they stood on the shoulders of other giants. That's fine, but now they're a giant, and it seem liike all too often they're flicking off and stomping on the newcomers who are trying to stand on their shoulders just a little bit.
No. That argument only holds water if the iPhone became popular while Apple did not charge the 30% fee for apps. The fact is, that 30% has always been in place and both the iPhone and App Store became hugely successful despite that. Apple has and does play fair with developers, but they cannot play fair with EVERYONE. There will be some that lose out due to the natural evolution of the platform, which has to compete with other platforms.
Furthermore, it is Apple's hardware, and iOS only runs on Apple's hardware and always has. Developers know this. And they know Apple will always have some kind of advantage because they create the whole widget.
I don't really know what the 30% cut is supposed to do with this, the OP that brought that up appears to just be ranting, and I don't agree with his point.
The problem here is that Apple are providing both a product and a platform. The two not particularly compatible and create a conflict of interest. I think the greater value of iOS is as a platform, I use non-Apple apps far more than I use Apple apps, so I wish Apple would stop pulling this shit.
Which every big grocery store and pharmacy or retailer does — provides both a platform (the store and shelves, which they often charge vendors in “slotting fees” to be considered as products) and a product (in-house brands). Have for decades, hasn’t bothered most people. In-house brands often placed right next to the name brands. In-house bakeries selling cheaper, etc..
Which every big grocery store and pharmacy or retailer does — provides both a platform (the store and shelves, which they often charge vendors in “slotting fees” to be considered as products) and a product (in-house brands). Have for decades, hasn’t bothered most people. In-house brands often placed right next to the name brands. In-house bakeries selling cheaper, etc..
Why is it suddenly a problem because Apple?
You realise this isn't the same situation at all, since a supplier can pay for a better slot if they want, but even this same practice of having a dominant position and putting your own products more prominently got Google into trouble for anti-competitive behaviour?
Sucks when someone builds a better product. There oughta be a law against that.
Bought the first Tile. It was basically worthless.
Companies abusing their dominant position also sucks. (And in some cases proved illegal)
How can you even say it's a better product without even seeing it? Or is it a better product because the goalposts were moved to make it look more attractive compared to competitors?
Apple was the first smartphone manufacturer with UWB, so that fact that Tile is still BT, ie, obsolete, has more bearing on this market than Apple's "anti-competitive" behavior.
Tile, create a UWB device, then fucking complain about Apple. Until then, enjoy the spiraling death of your niche product.
There are plenty devices with BT, it isn't obsolete, and Tile products work great. But why would another manufacturer even make a UWB device if Apple doesn't allow access to the hardware? Don't they think their products can stand against the competition?
i am really surprised at what companies feel is their right to access a proprietary mobile device. i mean, can tile tell ford to open up their systems to allow more third party accessibility? why should apple be forced to let everyone into their system? would it be nice? sure, there can be some cool stuff out there. But it is apple's phone and software, why should they have to open it to all?
i understand the optics here, but tile could make a phone, right? no one is stopping them from out innovating apple.
This isn't even comparable. You can modify your car however you like, change out components, buy replacement entertainment systems which integrate in the same way etc. Your example would be more valid if next time you took your Ford in for a service, they changed the ICE so every time you listen to a non-Ford supported radio station you had to confirm every 5 minutes you still want to listen to the radio, but a Ford station doesn't have the same restriction.
A 30% cut is ridiculous in 2020, and their ability to push their own software and reject others is also a clear example of that behavior, including the fact you can’t change your default email client, music software, navigation software, etc. Being a ‘third party’ always is second to ‘first party’ Apple.
What does 2020 have to do with anything? Are you one of those who say "it's [current year], people can do what they want!!" and update the year every year with the same message?
It really gets tiring to see iOS developers complain about Apple, seeming to show no awareness that if it weren’t for Apple’s App Store many of them wouldn’t even have jobs in the first place (no resources to start a company and to sell their work). We so quickly become entitled, like we deserve the good things we have, even when they come from someone else.
THIS.
And if it weren't for third party developers creating apps, the iPhone quite possibly wouldn't have nearly been as successful. It flows both ways. If Apple want the benefits of a rich app ecosystem then they should play fair with developers. If Apple really are ripping off Tile's idea and using their platform owner position as leverage over a developer in their ecosystem, then where's your criticism of their entitlement?
Apple didn't build their technology in a sealed off bunker, they stood on the shoulders of other giants. That's fine, but now they're a giant, and it seem liike all too often they're flicking off and stomping on the newcomers who are trying to stand on their shoulders just a little bit.
No. That argument only holds water if the iPhone became popular while Apple did not charge the 30% fee for apps. The fact is, that 30% has always been in place and both the iPhone and App Store became hugely successful despite that. Apple has and does play fair with developers, but they cannot play fair with EVERYONE. There will be some that lose out due to the natural evolution of the platform, which has to compete with other platforms.
Furthermore, it is Apple's hardware, and iOS only runs on Apple's hardware and always has. Developers know this. And they know Apple will always have some kind of advantage because they create the whole widget.
I don't really know what the 30% cut is supposed to do with this, the OP that brought that up appears to just be ranting, and I don't agree with his point.
The problem here is that Apple are providing both a product and a platform. The two not particularly compatible and create a conflict of interest. I think the greater value of iOS is as a platform, I use non-Apple apps far more than I use Apple apps, so I wish Apple would stop pulling this shit.
Which every big grocery store and pharmacy or retailer does — provides both a platform (the store and shelves, which they often charge vendors in “slotting fees” to be considered as products) and a product (in-house brands). Have for decades, hasn’t bothered most people. In-house brands often placed right next to the name brands. In-house bakeries selling cheaper, etc..
Why is it suddenly a problem because Apple?
It can be a problem there too. Just because it doesn't bother Joe Public doesn't mean it isn't a problem.
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Tile, create a UWB device, then fucking complain about Apple. Until then, enjoy the spiraling death of your niche product.
Tile is a product that will be obsolete shortly when items have built-in bluetooth trackers. Expect to see it in retail items of any value soon thus eliminating the need for separate objects. A good idea that has lost its relevancy.
The product and platform are what is called a solution and it happens to be the best solution available. The alternative is Android and it is a mess. Since you are someone who uses non-Apple apps you are not affected by this. I want security to get the highest priority. Supporting third-parties is a few notches down.
@crowley As for the idea that Apple is ripping off tile...the nation is built on ripping off people (your words), otherwise known as innovation. Keep innovating or be overtaken.
Or you as a company can do what HBO, Amazon, and others have done. Sign up at their web site directly. You can even use Safari on your iOS device. Now Apple is hosting these apps and getting nothing from them. Every new Update, everyone is downloading it. It costing Apple money. I just don't think it's a big deal. I think people are smart enough that if they can't log in from the app, that they should go directly to the company's app page and create an account there. Pay there of course. Then you can just sign into whatever app they have. I don't see it as a big deal.
'Any value' is subjective, and there will not be a wide scale implementation of built-in BT tracking. Even if there were, a separate standalone Tile-like product that works well will always have a place.
Personally, I'd like someone to develop a home RFID item tracker. Put some tags on commonly placed or "borrowed" items that are too small to use with a BT tracker. And items that may see the great outdoors could have both trackers. RFID doesn't have the range of BT, but it has it's uses. And no batteries to go dead.
https://www.atlasrfidstore.com/rfid-insider/active-rfid-vs-passive-rfid
Which every big grocery store and pharmacy or retailer does — provides both a platform (the store and shelves, which they often charge vendors in “slotting fees” to be considered as products) and a product (in-house brands). Have for decades, hasn’t bothered most people. In-house brands often placed right next to the name brands. In-house bakeries selling cheaper, etc..
Why is it suddenly a problem because Apple?
Companies abusing their dominant position also sucks. (And in some cases proved illegal)
How can you even say it's a better product without even seeing it? Or is it a better product because the goalposts were moved to make it look more attractive compared to competitors?
There are plenty devices with BT, it isn't obsolete, and Tile products work great. But why would another manufacturer even make a UWB device if Apple doesn't allow access to the hardware? Don't they think their products can stand against the competition?