Former Apple exec Scott Forstall to speak at Code.org online session

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Scott Forstall, Apple's former head of iOS development, is this week scheduled to take part in Code.org's Code Break, a weekly online seminar that helps students learn about computer coding during the coronavirus pandemic.

Scott Forstall Code Break
Scott Forstall will appear at this week's Code Break alongside Macklemore.


Announced by Code.org, and subsequently shared by Forstall in a tweet on Monday, the upcoming session will also feature musical guest Macklemore.

"I look forward to joining students around the world this week for a #CodeBreak," Forstall said.

Created by coding nonprofit Code.org, the weekly online meetups take place every Wednesday and aim to keep students of all ages engaged in coding during the ongoing coronavirus crisis through the presentation of interactive at-home activities. Code.org is responsible for organizing the annual Hour of Code event, a learning experience consistently promoted by Apple as part of educational outreach initiatives.

Hosted by Code.org founder Hadi Partovi, Code Break features special guests and a new activity or coding challenge each week. Options are available for beginners, experienced students and those without computers, according to the program's website.

Once a major force at Apple, Forstall was ousted from the company in 2012 following the controversial launch of the then-new Maps app. Complaints over mislabeled data, failed graphics, guidance issues and other problems prompted CEO Tim Cook to issue an apology, a note sources say Forstall refused to sign.

Forstall is slated to go live on Wednesday at 10 a.m. Pacific. Code Break requires users to sign up for a free account before viewing.

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  • Reply 1 of 18
    trashman69trashman69 Posts: 161member
    Poor Scott - all he had to do was apologize.  Just a simple signature and his life would have been much different today.



    watto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 18
    yuck9yuck9 Posts: 112member
    Poor Scott - all he had to do was apologize.  Just a simple signature and his life would have been much different today.



    You think he cares ? He did not play there game. And I doubt he has cash flow problems. I bet he was glad to get the hell out. Here sign here and you can keep your job. No, I quit. LOL.  It's not like Maps is kicking ass in the past 8 years since he left. 
    canukstormkestral
  • Reply 3 of 18
    hammeroftruthhammeroftruth Posts: 1,196member
    Poor Scott - all he had to do was apologize.  Just a simple signature and his life would have been much different today.



    What a bunch of BS. They wanted to make him a scapegoat so they could blame the maps fiasco on him. He didn’t so they fired him.
    This guy had the staying power to work with Steve for a long time. All the way back to the Next years. He was a brilliant programmer, just look at his achievements pre-Apple. 
    canukstormthtGeorgeBMacelijahgkestral
  • Reply 4 of 18
    canukstormcanukstorm Posts: 2,590member
    Poor Scott - all he had to do was apologize.  Just a simple signature and his life would have been much different today.



    What a bunch of BS. They wanted to make him a scapegoat so they could blame the maps fiasco on him. He didn’t so they fired him.
    This guy had the staying power to work with Steve for a long time. All the way back to the Next years. He was a brilliant programmer, just look at his achievements pre-Apple. 
    He was a brilliant software engineer.
  • Reply 5 of 18
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    What does the rapper have to do with coding? 
    trashman69razorpit
  • Reply 6 of 18
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    apple ][ said:
    What does the rapper have to do with coding? 
    Thrift store app design?
    bshank
  • Reply 7 of 18
    kimberlykimberly Posts: 409member
    Poor Scott - all he had to do was apologize.  Just a simple signature and his life would have been much different today.

    Absolute BS. If he didn't think he had anything to apologise for then he stuck to his principles. Good on him.
    kestral
  • Reply 8 of 18
    bestkeptsecretbestkeptsecret Posts: 4,170member

    Whether it's NDA or just plain integrity, I really appreciate the fact that Scott has (so far) never dissed the Company or anyone in it, never given a "tell-all" interview or never washed his dirty laundry in public.

    We'll never know what really happened behind closed doors. As always, the truth will be somewhere between "he was a real asshole who thought he was the next Steve Jobs at Apple" and "they tried to make him a scapegoat, but he stuck to his principles".

    edited May 2020 dewmeGeorgeBMacroundaboutnowfastasleepbshankwatto_cobra
  • Reply 9 of 18
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    Poor Scott - all he had to do was apologize.  Just a simple signature and his life would have been much different today.



    What a bunch of BS. They wanted to make him a scapegoat so they could blame the maps fiasco on him. He didn’t so they fired him.
    This guy had the staying power to work with Steve for a long time. All the way back to the Next years. He was a brilliant programmer, just look at his achievements pre-Apple. 
    He was in charge of Apple Maps development. If it wasn’t his fault, then who’s was it?
    trashman69fastasleepbshankwatto_cobra
  • Reply 10 of 18
    mireknmirekn Posts: 1member
    apple ][ said:
    What does the rapper have to do with coding? 
    Adding new dimension to reading a code ;-)
  • Reply 11 of 18
    razorpitrazorpit Posts: 1,796member
    apple ][ said:
    What does the rapper have to do with coding? 
    :D  Macklemore looks like a thug that would bully you for being in to computers.
  • Reply 12 of 18
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    So, how far has iOS progressed since he left?   Mostly it's just been minor changes and upgrades.  While the shift to 64bit and APFS opened some doors there really have not been any major changes.  

    Elsewhere, iPadOS was rolled out and slowly, very slowly, developed almost imperceptibly into a powerful OS.   Also, WatchOS was very nicely done.   But, iOS, since 2011 it's been mostly just minor upgrades.

    But, all in all, software development really seemed to slow after he left.   But then maybe that was inevitable since the product had entered a more mature phase.
    elijahgkestral
  • Reply 13 of 18
    canukstormcanukstorm Posts: 2,590member
    So, how far has iOS progressed since he left?   Mostly it's just been minor changes and upgrades.  While the shift to 64bit and APFS opened some doors there really have not been any major changes.  

    Elsewhere, iPadOS was rolled out and slowly, very slowly, developed almost imperceptibly into a powerful OS.   Also, WatchOS was very nicely done.   But, iOS, since 2011 it's been mostly just minor upgrades.

    But, all in all, software development really seemed to slow after he left.   But then maybe that was inevitable since the product had entered a more mature phase.
    In the last couple of years, I've gotten the feeling Apple has put the pedal to the metal.  
    bshankwatto_cobra
  • Reply 14 of 18
    apple ][ said:
    What does the rapper have to do with coding? 
    Nothing. This is on line class for kids. What does a rapper have to do with getting kids to show up? A lot. 
  • Reply 15 of 18
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 6,146member
    So, how far has iOS progressed since he left?
    You mean besides the complete visual overhaul and the many refinements since, the continual improvement and integration of Maps, the launch and integration of Apple Music, Siri Shortcuts and Suggestions, Machine Learning, Metal 2, Swift UI, ARKit, share sheets overhaul, a completely new interaction paradigm with the iPhone X generation, the buildout of Notes and Reminders, Messages App Store, Memoji, Animoji, News, Apple Pay, Sign In with Apple, everything that integrates with Watch... and a thousand other little things that add up to pretty major changes over 9 years, clearly not much.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 16 of 18
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    So, how far has iOS progressed since he left?
    You mean besides the complete visual overhaul and the many refinements since, the continual improvement and integration of Maps, the launch and integration of Apple Music, Siri Shortcuts and Suggestions, Machine Learning, Metal 2, Swift UI, ARKit, share sheets overhaul, a completely new interaction paradigm with the iPhone X generation, the buildout of Notes and Reminders, Messages App Store, Memoji, Animoji, News, Apple Pay, Sign In with Apple, everything that integrates with Watch... and a thousand other little things that add up to pretty major changes over 9 years, clearly not much.

    Yeh, that minor incremental stuff (at least the iOS stuff which is the topic here rather than the stuff running on iOS).   It's good stuff -- but just incremental changes.
  • Reply 17 of 18
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 6,146member
    So, how far has iOS progressed since he left?
    You mean besides the complete visual overhaul and the many refinements since, the continual improvement and integration of Maps, the launch and integration of Apple Music, Siri Shortcuts and Suggestions, Machine Learning, Metal 2, Swift UI, ARKit, share sheets overhaul, a completely new interaction paradigm with the iPhone X generation, the buildout of Notes and Reminders, Messages App Store, Memoji, Animoji, News, Apple Pay, Sign In with Apple, everything that integrates with Watch... and a thousand other little things that add up to pretty major changes over 9 years, clearly not much.

    Yeh, that minor incremental stuff (at least the iOS stuff which is the topic here rather than the stuff running on iOS).   It's good stuff -- but just incremental changes.
    THAT'S HOW EVERYTHING APPLE DOES ALL THE TIME! JFC

    So, yeah — 9 years of incremental shit adds up to substantial changes. I shouldn't have to explain this to you since you've been around since the dinosaurs, but here we are.

    Also what do you know about what's actually behind the scenes versus what "runs on iOS" and how much what is integrated where? You've got that seriously myopic view that substantial changes only come in the form of massive visual changes and functionality (which we've had a lot of, too). Ridiculous.
    edited May 2020 bshankwatto_cobra
  • Reply 18 of 18
    yuck9yuck9 Posts: 112member
    Rayz2016 said:
    Poor Scott - all he had to do was apologize.  Just a simple signature and his life would have been much different today.



    What a bunch of BS. They wanted to make him a scapegoat so they could blame the maps fiasco on him. He didn’t so they fired him.
    This guy had the staying power to work with Steve for a long time. All the way back to the Next years. He was a brilliant programmer, just look at his achievements pre-Apple. 
    He was in charge of Apple Maps development. If it wasn’t his fault, then who’s was it?
    Who know's. Everyone has a boss. If you are leading a project and (In this case Scott) and a higher up tells him to add this and that, you add  this and that, It fails,take this out, add this, etc. Time for release of product, It's not finished, The high up's tell you to ship it. It blows up. Public outcry, Blame has to be put on someone.  
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