OpenCore Computer attempts sale of Hackintosh systems
OpenCore Computer has launched its first desktop computer billed as a "zero-compromise Hackintosh" preinstalled with macOS Catalina and Windows 10 Pro, a project highly likely to face intense scrutiny from Apple's legal team.
The "Velociraptor" is the first of OpenCore Computer's range of desktop computers that operate as a Hackintosh. Boasting high levels of performance, the company is pitching the system at people who want the potential speed of a Hackintosh, but without needing to build or set it up for themselves.
The initial Velociraptor includes AMD Ryzen 8-core, 12-core, or 16-core processors with up to 64 gigabytes of memory, and up to an AMD Radeon VII GPU with 16GB of HBM2 memory, as first reported by MacRumors. Inside the Mini-ITX case are a pair of SSDs, each holding macOS and Windows installations and being up to 2 terabytes in capacity, as well as a third hard drive up to 4 terabytes in size.
In Geekbench 5 tests, OpenCore Computer claims the Velociraptor outpaces all MacBooks and Macs except the Mac Pro in multi-core testing, but even beats the Mac Pro in single-core tests.
The macOS installation is "professionally installed using the OpenCore bootloader," with all features including Hand Off and Continuity working like a regular Mac. However, the company does warn that, though it dues run most Adobe Creative Cloud apps right out of the box, the exception is Lightroom CC, but Lightroom Classic works fine.
The Velociraptor is being sold for $2,199 at its base price. The T-Rex, with support for up to 64-core CPUs and 256GB of memory, and the higher-performance Megalodon are said to be launching within months with prices yet to be announced.
Apple already has some precedent on its side, securing a permanent injunction against clone Mac producer Psystar in 2019 following a 17-month lawsuit. As well as preventing Psystar from selling or distributing derivative works of Mac OS X, and circumventing Apple's measures to prevent the operating system from being copied, the firm also had to pay out $2.7 million in damages and attorneys fees.
Given the circumstances of the new product's sale, it appears that OpenCore Computer could face a similar fate in the near future, though it seemingly acknowledges this is a probability. On attempting a purchase, the site store advises the "convoluted macOS EULA agreement" limits its payment options to Bitcoin.
Furthermore, the OpenCore Computer name is also causing its own issues. In a statement to MacRumors, OpenCore Bootloader group Acidanthera denounced the use of the OpenCore name by the company, as well as distancing themselves from its activity.
"It is shocking and disgusting that some dishonest people we do not even know dare to use the name and logo of our bootloader, OpenCore, as a matter of promotion in some illicit criminal scam," the statement reads. "Be warned, that we a nohow affiliated with these people and strongly ask everyone by all means to never approach them. Be safe."
Given the potential for data loss, software incompatibility, and stability issues, let alone the total lack of support from Apple, it is not advisable for a business or other major entities to go down the Hackintosh route.
That being said, Apple generally leaves creators of Hackintosh projects alone. In cases such as Psystar, where it can potentially harm Mac sales in a significant way, Apple's lawyers will step in, but home tinkerers are unlikely to face such scrutiny.
The "Velociraptor" is the first of OpenCore Computer's range of desktop computers that operate as a Hackintosh. Boasting high levels of performance, the company is pitching the system at people who want the potential speed of a Hackintosh, but without needing to build or set it up for themselves.
The initial Velociraptor includes AMD Ryzen 8-core, 12-core, or 16-core processors with up to 64 gigabytes of memory, and up to an AMD Radeon VII GPU with 16GB of HBM2 memory, as first reported by MacRumors. Inside the Mini-ITX case are a pair of SSDs, each holding macOS and Windows installations and being up to 2 terabytes in capacity, as well as a third hard drive up to 4 terabytes in size.
In Geekbench 5 tests, OpenCore Computer claims the Velociraptor outpaces all MacBooks and Macs except the Mac Pro in multi-core testing, but even beats the Mac Pro in single-core tests.
The macOS installation is "professionally installed using the OpenCore bootloader," with all features including Hand Off and Continuity working like a regular Mac. However, the company does warn that, though it dues run most Adobe Creative Cloud apps right out of the box, the exception is Lightroom CC, but Lightroom Classic works fine.
The Velociraptor is being sold for $2,199 at its base price. The T-Rex, with support for up to 64-core CPUs and 256GB of memory, and the higher-performance Megalodon are said to be launching within months with prices yet to be announced.
Legal Issues
It is questionable as to whether Apple will allow OpenCore Computer to offer its current product, as selling computers running macOS that aren't an official Mac or MacBook violates Apple's end-user license agreement. This makes it extremely probable that lawyers working for Apple will step in to try and halt sales.Apple already has some precedent on its side, securing a permanent injunction against clone Mac producer Psystar in 2019 following a 17-month lawsuit. As well as preventing Psystar from selling or distributing derivative works of Mac OS X, and circumventing Apple's measures to prevent the operating system from being copied, the firm also had to pay out $2.7 million in damages and attorneys fees.
Given the circumstances of the new product's sale, it appears that OpenCore Computer could face a similar fate in the near future, though it seemingly acknowledges this is a probability. On attempting a purchase, the site store advises the "convoluted macOS EULA agreement" limits its payment options to Bitcoin.
Furthermore, the OpenCore Computer name is also causing its own issues. In a statement to MacRumors, OpenCore Bootloader group Acidanthera denounced the use of the OpenCore name by the company, as well as distancing themselves from its activity.
"It is shocking and disgusting that some dishonest people we do not even know dare to use the name and logo of our bootloader, OpenCore, as a matter of promotion in some illicit criminal scam," the statement reads. "Be warned, that we a nohow affiliated with these people and strongly ask everyone by all means to never approach them. Be safe."
Better to DIY
While the legal nature of creating a Hackintosh is generally murky, there are a variety of projects online that can assist or guide intrepid computer users down the route of making their own version. Making a Hackintosh isn't an easy task, with hobbyist tinkerers most likely to do so, and there is also the prospect of Apple potentially rending an installation useless following an update.Given the potential for data loss, software incompatibility, and stability issues, let alone the total lack of support from Apple, it is not advisable for a business or other major entities to go down the Hackintosh route.
That being said, Apple generally leaves creators of Hackintosh projects alone. In cases such as Psystar, where it can potentially harm Mac sales in a significant way, Apple's lawyers will step in, but home tinkerers are unlikely to face such scrutiny.
Comments
This sort of shows there's quite a lot of demand for an xMac, but it would be hard to price it reasonably without eating the lucrative high end iMac/Mac Pro sales. Which is partly why they won't do it. All this bluster by Apple about Macs being very green, and you have to throw away half (or all) of the computer if a key breaks, you need more RAM, or you need to fix something. The screen on my 2012 iMac works perfectly, but I had no choice but to buy a new display with the new iMac. I have an Apple LED Display circa 2006, still works great and has gone through 3 Mac upgrades. That's a lot more green than throwing things out every 5 or 6 years because it's an AIO unit.
This is even more relevant now with Moore's law broken and computers being replaced much less frequently, it means replacing broken parts rather than the whole machine is worth it since a new computer isn't the speed jump it once was.
I would much rather give you that $2000 for a MacPro-like case. And then just let me choose an AMD cpu, that's all I'm asking.
$5000 for the MacPro with these inferior Xeons and 580s is sad and is pushing us away.
For that much throw in a 3900X and a 5700XT. Charge another 1000 for the 3950X, 3000 for the 3970X as far as I care. Please do this for the pros that don't want to go through the hassle of a hackintosh and want AppleCare, want all security updates and want the engineering that goes into your cases. 1.5TB of RAM? Give an Epyc option.
Do this for the next 5 years until ARM can compete.
In your dreams. Now go away.
Sincerely,
Tim
This is all my speculation of course.
Some company demanding payment only in bitcoin selling an illegal machine and the company/criminals don't even have a contact address.
Anybody dumb enough to order one of these deserves to be scammed.
And from what I've read about AMD hackintoshes, there are some compatibility issues with AMD running certain software.
In the case of AMD sure the CPU is x86, but things like SATA Controller, Northbridge/Southbridge, LAN, Sound, will all differ for AMD machines and need drivers.
And you're just *now* realising this? ;-)
Another option could be PCI-E compute cartridges, which come with a CPU, small SSD & RAM in one package
It will provide people with the best of both worlds without compromise and without having to sell a kidney
Profitable, perhaps, but "lucrative"? I think by now everything else is a rounding error compared to iPhone + iOS app store.