Gee, if only Uber/Lyft's business model was successful as is, but even with contractors sans benefits, both companies are losing money.
Their model is a perfect example of privatize profits, socialize costs. Those contract/independent operators do not pay nor are eligible for workmen's comp if injured on the job, so that then falls upon the State (Medicaid) if the drivers do not have health insurance. Fix those costs that would otherwise be born by the State, some of those fixes which are in Prop 22, and raise rates to the customer, to cover those costs, and provide a profit, and then you have a sustainable model.
Bingo! So many lamented the damage Walmart did to smaller grocers/stores with their predatory business model. Uber and Lyft do the same thing. They pass on the costs of taking care of their workers (they're not contractors in any sense of the word) on to the general public. The law is imperfect, but must be used to correct the abuses. Fine-tune it to encompass all "contractors" and protect workers at the same time.
What abuse?! Drivers take on the work to make some quick extra cash. No one is holding a gun to their head to drive. If it doesn't work for you stop and find something else. Comparing the business model of Uber/Lyft to the taxi industry is ridiculous. The current taxi business, even the medallion cabs in NYC, is an antiquated system that was ripe for extinction. Like complaining that cars would put all the street sweepers out of business.
Like fast food jobs, these are not supposed to be careers.
Uber owns part of Didi, about 16% according to what I've read. Apple partnered with them too a few years back but I've not seen any mention since.
The only info I can find is that Apple "invested in" Didi but that's all. Can't find anything else. Strange for Apple to give money to a company without part ownership.
Gee, if only Uber/Lyft's business model was successful as is, but even with contractors sans benefits, both companies are losing money.
Their model is a perfect example of privatize profits, socialize costs. Those contract/independent operators do not pay nor are eligible for workmen's comp if injured on the job, so that then falls upon the State (Medicaid) if the drivers do not have health insurance. Fix those costs that would otherwise be born by the State, some of those fixes which are in Prop 22, and raise rates to the customer, to cover those costs, and provide a profit, and then you have a sustainable model.
Bingo! So many lamented the damage Walmart did to smaller grocers/stores with their predatory business model. Uber and Lyft do the same thing. They pass on the costs of taking care of their workers (they're not contractors in any sense of the word) on to the general public. The law is imperfect, but must be used to correct the abuses. Fine-tune it to encompass all "contractors" and protect workers at the same time.
What abuse?! Drivers take on the work to make some quick extra cash. No one is holding a gun to their head to drive. If it doesn't work for you stop and find something else. Comparing the business model of Uber/Lyft to the taxi industry is ridiculous. The current taxi business, even the medallion cabs in NYC, is an antiquated system that was ripe for extinction. Like complaining that cars would put all the street sweepers out of business.
Like fast food jobs, these are not supposed to be careers.
What abuses? Why did the ride-shares change some of their practices? Because AB5 addressed abuses: the companies were misclassifying workers as contractors, and thus not paying into the funds as they should for worker protections. The changes were insufficient and that's why the Attorneys General (CA, SF, LA et al) sued over the violations and got the restraining order. Any comparison is fair as the Uber/Lyft model simply uses an app for ride shares compared to tradition car services.
Like complaining that cars would put all the street sweepers out of business.
??? Did you mean to compare complaints of cars putting horse & buggy drivers out of business? Otherwise, your statement makes no sense.
Like fast food jobs, these are not supposed to be careers.
All of these "not supposed to" rants fly in the face of facts. Minimum wage is not supposed to be for adults. Gig work is not supposed to be full-time work. XXX jobs are not supposed to... Nonsense. These jobs exist because of the shitty companies that starve their workers of hours, benefits and legal protections afforded workers. Uber, Lyft and countless others purposefully misclassify workers as contractors to weasel out of their legal responsibilities to workers and society in general. IIRC, someone earlier brought up workers comp and health insurance; I'll also add UI -- something that Congress had to address during the Pandemic to assist gig workers nearly shutout of assistance since so many are misclassified. I remember the mess about driver insurance that both companies fought tooth and nail with several cities/states before they finally caved in and got coverage for their workers.
Gee, if only Uber/Lyft's business model was successful as is, but even with contractors sans benefits, both companies are losing money.
Their model is a perfect example of privatize profits, socialize costs. Those contract/independent operators do not pay nor are eligible for workmen's comp if injured on the job, so that then falls upon the State (Medicaid) if the drivers do not have health insurance. Fix those costs that would otherwise be born by the State, some of those fixes which are in Prop 22, and raise rates to the customer, to cover those costs, and provide a profit, and then you have a sustainable model.
Bingo! So many lamented the damage Walmart did to smaller grocers/stores with their predatory business model. Uber and Lyft do the same thing. They pass on the costs of taking care of their workers (they're not contractors in any sense of the word) on to the general public. The law is imperfect, but must be used to correct the abuses. Fine-tune it to encompass all "contractors" and protect workers at the same time.
What abuse?! Drivers take on the work to make some quick extra cash. No one is holding a gun to their head to drive. If it doesn't work for you stop and find something else. Comparing the business model of Uber/Lyft to the taxi industry is ridiculous. The current taxi business, even the medallion cabs in NYC, is an antiquated system that was ripe for extinction. Like complaining that cars would put all the street sweepers out of business.
Like fast food jobs, these are not supposed to be careers.
What abuses? Why did the ride-shares change some of their practices? Because AB5 addressed abuses: the companies were misclassifying workers as contractors, and thus not paying into the funds as they should for worker protections. The changes were insufficient and that's why the Attorneys General (CA, SF, LA et al) sued over the violations and got the restraining order. Any comparison is fair as the Uber/Lyft model simply uses an app for ride shares compared to tradition car services.
Like complaining that cars would put all the street sweepers out of business.
??? Did you mean to compare complaints of cars putting horse & buggy drivers out of business? Otherwise, your statement makes no sense.
Like fast food jobs, these are not supposed to be careers.
All of these "not supposed to" rants fly in the face of facts. Minimum wage is not supposed to be for adults. Gig work is not supposed to be full-time work. XXX jobs are not supposed to... Nonsense. These jobs exist because of the shitty companies that starve their workers of hours, benefits and legal protections afforded workers. Uber, Lyft and countless others purposefully misclassify workers as contractors to weasel out of their legal responsibilities to workers and society in general. IIRC, someone earlier brought up workers comp and health insurance; I'll also add UI -- something that Congress had to address during the Pandemic to assist gig workers nearly shutout of assistance since so many are misclassified. I remember the mess about driver insurance that both companies fought tooth and nail with several cities/states before they finally caved in and got coverage for their workers.
Ignorance is strong in this post.
Typical of people that expect others to pay for their choices.
Could please tell me if contextual folders are still a thing? If you click on a folder name above the toolbar in the Finder (or the document name in most apps) it will show you the hierarchy of folders you are in. With the screenshots I have seen of the folder UI in Big Sur, it does not appear that this is still a feature. Could someone please confirm? Maybe with a screenshot? Thanks!
Gee, if only Uber/Lyft's business model was successful as is, but even with contractors sans benefits, both companies are losing money.
Their model is a perfect example of privatize profits, socialize costs. Those contract/independent operators do not pay nor are eligible for workmen's comp if injured on the job, so that then falls upon the State (Medicaid) if the drivers do not have health insurance. Fix those costs that would otherwise be born by the State, some of those fixes which are in Prop 22, and raise rates to the customer, to cover those costs, and provide a profit, and then you have a sustainable model.
Bingo! So many lamented the damage Walmart did to smaller grocers/stores with their predatory business model. Uber and Lyft do the same thing. They pass on the costs of taking care of their workers (they're not contractors in any sense of the word) on to the general public. The law is imperfect, but must be used to correct the abuses. Fine-tune it to encompass all "contractors" and protect workers at the same time.
What abuse?! Drivers take on the work to make some quick extra cash. No one is holding a gun to their head to drive. If it doesn't work for you stop and find something else. Comparing the business model of Uber/Lyft to the taxi industry is ridiculous. The current taxi business, even the medallion cabs in NYC, is an antiquated system that was ripe for extinction. Like complaining that cars would put all the street sweepers out of business.
Like fast food jobs, these are not supposed to be careers.
What abuses? Why did the ride-shares change some of their practices? Because AB5 addressed abuses: the companies were misclassifying workers as contractors, and thus not paying into the funds as they should for worker protections. The changes were insufficient and that's why the Attorneys General (CA, SF, LA et al) sued over the violations and got the restraining order. Any comparison is fair as the Uber/Lyft model simply uses an app for ride shares compared to tradition car services.
Like complaining that cars would put all the street sweepers out of business.
??? Did you mean to compare complaints of cars putting horse & buggy drivers out of business? Otherwise, your statement makes no sense.
Like fast food jobs, these are not supposed to be careers.
All of these "not supposed to" rants fly in the face of facts. Minimum wage is not supposed to be for adults. Gig work is not supposed to be full-time work. XXX jobs are not supposed to... Nonsense. These jobs exist because of the shitty companies that starve their workers of hours, benefits and legal protections afforded workers. Uber, Lyft and countless others purposefully misclassify workers as contractors to weasel out of their legal responsibilities to workers and society in general. IIRC, someone earlier brought up workers comp and health insurance; I'll also add UI -- something that Congress had to address during the Pandemic to assist gig workers nearly shutout of assistance since so many are misclassified. I remember the mess about driver insurance that both companies fought tooth and nail with several cities/states before they finally caved in and got coverage for their workers.
Ignorance is strong in this post.
Typical of people that expect others to pay for their choices.
Typical asshole response. Can't refute points, so toss out personal attacks. You poor privileged punk.
I agree. Uber styled ride share systems, of which Lyft is one are a horrible, abusive return to to Dickensian piecework. This abuse of workers must be stamped out with all force possible, and if the state has to step in I completely support it.
Uber: Replacing good jobs with gig anxiety.
What are you talking about? Uber and Lyft are not career choices, they are like waiting tables, a means for a person to earn extra income fast. And their drivers for the most part love doing the work because it means they can work flexible hours. California wants everyone in a union. That’s what these laws are about. Unions control this State and it’s going down the shitter thanks to their stranglehold.
They are replacing cab companies and limo companies, even shuttle bus services, all good jobs with benefits, with crap jobs with no future. All to make some 1% guy richer. We as a society can and should do better then that.
That's socialist BS. You're removing freedom of choice from both the consumer and the driver. And where do all cab and limo drivers get benefits? Many, if not most are part time or independent operators.
I agree don’t know what the heck they are going on about. As a part-time Lyft driver I like the freedom of being an independent contractor. Why the hell would I want to be an employee and probably in an union for that matter.
Do Uber/Lyft drivers pay all of their FICA taxes or only half and Uber/Lyft pays the other half?
No they are independent contractor which gets a 1099 as such when you record your income on your tax returns, you have to pay both half of the FICA. This why these people who choose under there own free will to be a taxi driver, use their own resources and work when they want, then realize they were not making as much as they thought. Then all of the sudden found out they had to pay 14.5% FICA verse 7.25% if you are an employee.
This is why all these people begin complaining and want to be an employee verse independent contract. Governments do not like independent contractors not because these people do not get Health Benefit which Government claim is most important thing. Do not let the government foul you, it is really about the taxes these people pay, independent contractors pay less taxes. Because they can write of lots of things like their car and the cost to run their car in the case of Uber, and if the person is smart about being a contractor there are other things they can write off before they even begin paying taxes. The Government only cares about how much taxes they can collect for their pet project and having people making money and not pay taxes is a real issue for them.
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The only info I can find is that Apple "invested in" Didi but that's all. Can't find anything else. Strange for Apple to give money to a company without part ownership.
??? Did you mean to compare complaints of cars putting horse & buggy drivers out of business? Otherwise, your statement makes no sense.
Like fast food jobs, these are not supposed to be careers.
All of these "not supposed to" rants fly in the face of facts. Minimum wage is not supposed to be for adults. Gig work is not supposed to be full-time work. XXX jobs are not supposed to... Nonsense. These jobs exist because of the shitty companies that starve their workers of hours, benefits and legal protections afforded workers. Uber, Lyft and countless others purposefully misclassify workers as contractors to weasel out of their legal responsibilities to workers and society in general. IIRC, someone earlier brought up workers comp and health insurance; I'll also add UI -- something that Congress had to address during the Pandemic to assist gig workers nearly shutout of assistance since so many are misclassified. I remember the mess about driver insurance that both companies fought tooth and nail with several cities/states before they finally caved in and got coverage for their workers.
This is why all these people begin complaining and want to be an employee verse independent contract. Governments do not like independent contractors not because these people do not get Health Benefit which Government claim is most important thing. Do not let the government foul you, it is really about the taxes these people pay, independent contractors pay less taxes. Because they can write of lots of things like their car and the cost to run their car in the case of Uber, and if the person is smart about being a contractor there are other things they can write off before they even begin paying taxes. The Government only cares about how much taxes they can collect for their pet project and having people making money and not pay taxes is a real issue for them.