First cannabis delivery app lands on App Store following policy changes

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• Reply 1 of 17

  mcdave Posts: 1,927member

  July 12, 2021 1:01AM

  I wonder if the geofence works on  billing address as well as delivery.
• Reply 2 of 17

  mfryd Posts: 216member

  July 12, 2021 1:48AM

  I wonder how the App handles payments? Most banks are federally chartered, and are not allowed to knowingly service customers running an illegal business.   Under Federal law, pot is illegal everywhere in the USA.  Therefore banks can’t take on pot sellers as customers.  This is why many pot businesses are cash only.  It’s true that the Feds tend not to enforce the pot laws in state that allow pot, but that is not the same as it being legal.

  
• Reply 3 of 17

  glennh Posts: 72member

  July 12, 2021 8:02AM

  mfryd said:

  I wonder how the App handles payments? Most banks are federally chartered, and are not allowed to knowingly service customers running an illegal business.   Under Federal law, pot is illegal everywhere in the USA.  Therefore banks can’t take on pot sellers as customers.  This is why many pot businesses are cash only.  It’s true that the Feds tend not to enforce the pot laws in state that allow pot, but that is not the same as it being legal.”
  
  

  
  

  Glennh says:
  
  

  In addition, it is illegal in most states that allow medical or personal use of Mary Jane for a second party to facilitate or transport MJ  to others.
  
  I am surprise this passed muster with Apple Legal which is usually very conservative in obeying all laws regardless of jurisdiction. 

  
  

  I think these pot apps will get booted as soon as some minors gets caught using the apps along with the resulting negative publicity or when  a conservative U. S. Attorney says something regarding the apps and the fact that federal seizure laws still allows the seizure of anything used in violation of any Federal Drug Law. 
  

  
  

  Either way, get ready for the show because nothing goes unnoticed and everything is game for political theater these days, especially a left coast tech company. allowing  others to circumvent a U.S. Law. 

  edited July 2021
• Reply 4 of 17

  [Deleted User] Posts: 0

  July 12, 2021 11:57AM

  mfryd said:

  I wonder how the App handles payments? Most banks are federally chartered, and are not allowed to knowingly service customers running an illegal business.   Under Federal law, pot is illegal everywhere in the USA.  Therefore banks can’t take on pot sellers as customers.  This is why many pot businesses are cash only.  It’s true that the Feds tend not to enforce the pot laws in state that allow pot, but that is not the same as it being legal.

  This was more of an issue prior to the Cole memo. Now there are over 700 banks that will work with cannabis sellers so taking credit/debit cards is pretty common. 
• Reply 5 of 17

  beowulfschmidt Posts: 2,138member

  July 12, 2021 1:05PM

  Happy_Noodle_Boy said:

  mfryd said:

  I wonder how the App handles payments? Most banks are federally chartered, and are not allowed to knowingly service customers running an illegal business.   Under Federal law, pot is illegal everywhere in the USA.  Therefore banks can’t take on pot sellers as customers.  This is why many pot businesses are cash only.  It’s true that the Feds tend not to enforce the pot laws in state that allow pot, but that is not the same as it being legal.

  This was more of an issue prior to the Cole memo. Now there are over 700 banks that will work with cannabis sellers so taking credit/debit cards is pretty common. 

  The Cole Memorandum was rescinded by A.G. Sessions, but an analysis of DOJ cases since then suggests that they're still following the guidance from Cole.  The fact that it was rescinded means, however, that the feds could go back to being stupid about it at any time.

  
• Reply 6 of 17

  lkrupp Posts: 10,557member

  July 12, 2021 1:56PM

  Sad to see the culture descending into an alcohol and drug addled state.

  
• Reply 7 of 17

  StrangeDays Posts: 12,879member

  July 12, 2021 2:35PM

  lkrupp said:

  Sad to see the culture descending into an alcohol and drug addled state.

  Alcohol and drugs are fine and quite enjoyable when done so responsibly. Not sure if you’re referring to California or “state” in general, but when it comes to addiction, CA isn’t near the top of the list of drug use or mortality states. 
  
  

  California is only ranked 34 for OD deaths. Worst ranked states are the rust belt:
  
  https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/deaths/2019.html
  
  California is only ranked 31 for use:
  
  https://wallethub.com/edu/drug-use-by-state/35150
  
  ….And this is a pot app. Cannabis doesn’t OD users, unlike even alcohol, which is legal in all 50.  Opioids are the real killer, ushered in by the pushing and over prescription by the pharmaceutical companies. Some great documentaries about it. 
  
  https://tv.apple.com/us/show/the-crime-of-the-century/umc.cmc.3xo7o3f19v65u2org4ncsyui1
  

  edited July 2021
• Reply 8 of 17

  GeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member

  July 12, 2021 2:54PM

  A pusher will deliver it to your front door for (likely) far less money -- and no bothersome sales tax, age restrictions or questions.

  
  

  But this will probably go the same way as the numbers racket that had always been illegal -- till the state got into the business:  to buy a number you just walked over to your local numbers guy -- who was both more convenient and paid better -- and there were never any fixing scandals from the mob: if you ruined their business you didn't go to jail, you got your knees broken (or worse).   But, eventually, the state took over the business anyway.
  

  
  

  So, at this point (at least in PA) the state runs the numbers racket as well as selling wine and hard liquor (all of which were, at some point, illegal).

  How long will it be till they're selling pot too?

  ...  Or, will Amazon take it over?    They could deliver your pot along with your latest electronic gadget and blood pressure meds.
  
• Reply 9 of 17

  GeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member

  July 12, 2021 3:03PM

  mfryd said:

  I wonder how the App handles payments? Most banks are federally chartered, and are not allowed to knowingly service customers running an illegal business.   Under Federal law, pot is illegal everywhere in the USA.  Therefore banks can’t take on pot sellers as customers.  This is why many pot businesses are cash only.  It’s true that the Feds tend not to enforce the pot laws in state that allow pot, but that is not the same as it being legal.

  
  It says:
  "Pay with your debit card, bank account or cash"
  
• Reply 10 of 17

  beowulfschmidt Posts: 2,138member

  July 12, 2021 3:46PM

  lkrupp said:

  Sad to see the culture descending into an alcohol and drug addled state.

  (Comment deleted by Better Judgment, Inc. “Your Better Judgment People!” It was good, though. Really funny. Predictable, maybe, but still pretty damn funny. It’s a shame, really, that it’s been deleted because you’d have probably laughed out loud and spit coffee (or whatever you might be drinking at the time) when you read it, but there’s always that one friend who could be offended, and they’d be, like, “There he goes again. A--hole being an a--hole.” So it’s probably just as well that cooler heads have prevailed at this point.)
  

  edited July 2021
• Reply 11 of 17

  Beats Posts: 3,073member

  July 12, 2021 4:35PM

  My cousin had this idea a long time ago. Really sucks being broke and not be able to bring your thoughts to life.
  
  Sometimes we just hang out and exchange ideas. We really need to get our lives together.

  edited July 2021
• Reply 12 of 17

  libertyforall Posts: 1,418member

  July 12, 2021 5:50PM

  Wonder why it does not support the state of Illinois?  

• Reply 13 of 17

  lkrupp Posts: 10,557member

  July 13, 2021 4:10PM

  GeorgeBMac said:

  A pusher will deliver it to your front door for (likely) far less money -- and no bothersome sales tax, age restrictions or questions.

  
  

  But this will probably go the same way as the numbers racket that had always been illegal -- till the state got into the business:  to buy a number you just walked over to your local numbers guy -- who was both more convenient and paid better -- and there were never any fixing scandals from the mob: if you ruined their business you didn't go to jail, you got your knees broken (or worse).   But, eventually, the state took over the business anyway.
  

  
  

  So, at this point (at least in PA) the state runs the numbers racket as well as selling wine and hard liquor (all of which were, at some point, illegal).

  How long will it be till they're selling pot too?

  ...  Or, will Amazon take it over?    They could deliver your pot along with your latest electronic gadget and blood pressure meds.
  

  There’s one more vice that the government is looking into...prostitution. Like you say, they’ve got gambling, liquor, drugs, tobacco, so why not the oldest profession too? Tax sex! Profiting from misery is something the government does well.

  edited July 2021
• Reply 14 of 17

  lkrupp Posts: 10,557member

  July 13, 2021 4:17PM

  libertyforall said:

  Wonder why it does not support the state of Illinois?  

  It should. Illinois has legalized recreational use.
   
  I’ve got TWO cannabis dispensaries within five miles of my little abode in Southern Illinois. I always shake my head watching the pot heads lined up with their little brown paper bags down the street. There’s no parking near the pot store so they have to walk about half a mile because the nearby local businesses will not allow them to use their parking lots. So there they are, lined up and walking to get their pot like ants heading back to the anthill. 
  
  On the other hand, my town of about 20,000 got over $2 million in pot taxes last year. So there’s that.

  edited July 2021
• Reply 15 of 17

  crowley Posts: 10,453member

  July 13, 2021 7:16PM

  lkrupp said:

  GeorgeBMac said:

  A pusher will deliver it to your front door for (likely) far less money -- and no bothersome sales tax, age restrictions or questions.

  
  

  But this will probably go the same way as the numbers racket that had always been illegal -- till the state got into the business:  to buy a number you just walked over to your local numbers guy -- who was both more convenient and paid better -- and there were never any fixing scandals from the mob: if you ruined their business you didn't go to jail, you got your knees broken (or worse).   But, eventually, the state took over the business anyway.
  

  
  

  So, at this point (at least in PA) the state runs the numbers racket as well as selling wine and hard liquor (all of which were, at some point, illegal).

  How long will it be till they're selling pot too?

  ...  Or, will Amazon take it over?    They could deliver your pot along with your latest electronic gadget and blood pressure meds.
  

  There’s one more vice that the government is looking into...prostitution. Like you say, they’ve got gambling, liquor, drugs, tobacco, so why not the oldest profession too? Tax sex! Profiting from misery is something the government does well.

  Newsflash: Things are less attractive if they cost more.  And taxes can fund support services.
  
  
• Reply 16 of 17

  GeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member

  July 14, 2021 10:25AM

  lkrupp said:

  GeorgeBMac said:

  A pusher will deliver it to your front door for (likely) far less money -- and no bothersome sales tax, age restrictions or questions.

  
  

  But this will probably go the same way as the numbers racket that had always been illegal -- till the state got into the business:  to buy a number you just walked over to your local numbers guy -- who was both more convenient and paid better -- and there were never any fixing scandals from the mob: if you ruined their business you didn't go to jail, you got your knees broken (or worse).   But, eventually, the state took over the business anyway.
  

  
  

  So, at this point (at least in PA) the state runs the numbers racket as well as selling wine and hard liquor (all of which were, at some point, illegal).

  How long will it be till they're selling pot too?

  ...  Or, will Amazon take it over?    They could deliver your pot along with your latest electronic gadget and blood pressure meds.
  

  There’s one more vice that the government is looking into...prostitution. Like you say, they’ve got gambling, liquor, drugs, tobacco, so why not the oldest profession too? Tax sex! Profiting from misery is something the government does well.

  Legalize and tax sex workers?
  

  That would be the Libertarian thing to do.  Very capitalist.  But, despite the fact that they create the least societal harm of all the vices you list (gambling, drugs, alchohol & tobacco), it will likely never be legalized because we got religion (despite the fact that the leader of our dominant religion hung around with sex workers and the like).  
  

  
  

  I guess they need something to oppose.  Otherwise they aren't opposed to anything.  And isn't that the purpose of modern day religion?