Yahoo Finance app pulled from Chinese App Store

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in General Discussion edited October 20
Yahoo Finance appears to be the latest victim of China's suppressive internet regulations, as the iOS app used by many to access foreign news coverage is no longer available in that country's App Store.

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The app was purged on Oct. 14, according to Apple Censorship, a website that tracks App Store takedowns and changes. It is unclear who pulled Yahoo Finance and for what reason, and neither Apple nor Yahoo have responded to requests for comment on the matter.

Chinese users relied on the app to read news stories from media outlets that are typically blocked by China's Great Firewall and other internet censorship programs, reports The Telegraph. Capable of effectively bypassing the government's carefully laid content restrictions, the title likely caught the unwanted attention of authorities like the Cyberspace Administration of China (CAC) and was subsequently marked for removal.

Days prior to its App Store expulsion, Yahoo Finance republished a Bloomberg story critical of China's crackdown on the tech industry, the report said. The article contained reference to supposed preferential treatment afforded to Apple in exchange for compliance with government requests, including app takedown notices.

"Recently Apple has been removing many apps at the demand of the Chinese authorities," said Benjamin Ismail, project director at Apple Censorship, told the publication. "But complying with governments' orders is different than complying with law, especially in China, where the authorities often resort to extralegal means to muzzle the press, bloggers, activists or any dissenting voices."

Apple is widely viewed as having an obsequious relationship with Chinese bodies like the CAC. Despite touting itself as a staunch champion of human rights causes such as freedom of expression and access to information, the iPhone maker routinely cows to requests that stifle such agency. At stake is a massive consumer market, one that is well positioned to dictate success or failure as the tech giant works to grow its global reach.

Apple has a rich history of yanking apps deemed unfit for Chinese consumption. In late 2016, the company removed the official New York Times app on claims that it violated unspecified local laws. A number of virtual private network (VPN) apps that threatened to break through the Great Firewall were booted from the App Store months later.

More recently, Apple last week reportedly pulled Quran Majeed at the behest of government officials. Other apps that present users with religious texts and material, including "Olive Tree Bible," "Holy Bible King James" and "Jehovah's Witnesses Kingdom," were also expelled from China's App Store.

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  • Reply 1 of 16
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 10,684member
    These days we in the U.S. see journalistic attacks on our country and our government as normal.   Some even believe they are our strength.

    China sees them as unacceptable.

    Here, largely because of the of the misinformation and attacks our people are dying, our economy is in tatters and our democracy hangs by a thread -- all of which started with the first BigLie 20 years ago and has grown and progressed every year since.  There they have a healthy population, healthy economy and a strong government.

    So, what price are we willing to pay for this freedom?  Are we willing to sacrifice our lives?  Our wealth?   Our democracy?  for it?
  • Reply 2 of 16
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 9,627member
    Your fawning over a totalitarian regime is sickening. In the 1930s many Americans were mesmerized by the totalitarian fascist regime unfolding in Germany at the time.  Things were getting done, roads were being built, the economy was being resurrected, Germans were becoming prosperous. Intellectuals were fawning over that regime’s leader like you do over China’s leader. Totalitarianism was the future some thought, because things got done without the messy process of people voting for what they wanted.

    With your last sentence it is now perfectly clear that you espouse the concept of totalitarianism, the suppression of speech that you deem dangerous. The government should regulate freedom, Chinese style, for the “good of the people”. The government should completely control the economy.
    elijahgmuthuk_vanalingamOferronn
  • Reply 3 of 16
    elijahgelijahg Posts: 2,487member
    These days we in the U.S. see journalistic attacks on our country and our government as normal.   Some even believe they are our strength.

    China sees them as unacceptable.

    Here, largely because of the of the misinformation and attacks our people are dying, our economy is in tatters and our democracy hangs by a thread -- all of which started with the first BigLie 20 years ago and has grown and progressed every year since.  There they have a healthy population, healthy economy and a strong government.

    So, what price are we willing to pay for this freedom?  Are we willing to sacrifice our lives?  Our wealth?   Our democracy?  for it?
    Our China shill is back just on cue! So government sponsored oppression and murder in China is absolutely fine. Got it. It's better not to be told about the things government is doing because how else can they sweep it under the carpet and get away with anything they want? You've apparently missed the news that Evergrande is about to go under with $300bn of debt, and China's property bubble is about to burst. What's that about "our economy is in tatters"?
    edited October 21 muthuk_vanalingamOferronnStrangeDays
  • Reply 4 of 16
    GeorgeBMac, YOU sir, need to catch up on what’s going on in China … try googling the “Evergrande Crisis” … China’s Real Estate Market is currently the biggest Ponzi scheme in the history of humans and it’s already starting to collapse. They have routine blackouts and they are threatening war with Taiwan?

    Those are just a few of the current issues … if you think we got problems, haha, look around! I’d rather deal with Western Problems and “fight for the truth” … than live in a state where TRUTH is completely suppressed!
    muthuk_vanalingamOferronnwatto_cobra
  • Reply 5 of 16
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 23,300member
    These days we in the U.S. see journalistic attacks on our country and our government as normal.   Some even believe they are our strength.

    China sees them as unacceptable.

    Here, largely because of the of the misinformation and attacks our people are dying, our economy is in tatters and our democracy hangs by a thread -- all of which started with the first BigLie 20 years ago and has grown and progressed every year since.  There they have a healthy population, healthy economy and a strong government.

    So, what price are we willing to pay for this freedom?  Are we willing to sacrifice our lives?  Our wealth?   Our democracy?  for it?

    So propaganda-tinged official party sanctioned news being the only permitted sources, topped with disinformation, and heavy censorship of alternative reporting to keep the party in power from being questioned is the right answer? Here in the US even your hated Fox News doesn't have that power and influence. You are free to read unbiased Chinese sources for US news if you prefer it over what you perceive as biased US ones. You are assumed to have the propensity to choose for yourself and accept the rewards and consequences as a free-thinking human being. 

    IMHO, the controlling political party hiding any news that might question their decisions is hardly a good way to lead a country into the future George. It assumes you are not wise enough to see the truth and then properly choose, thus choice must be removed by omission.

    You may think US citizens having such a large (undue?) influence on our government is a bad thing, and some will agree with you. I'm actually on your side in some small ways. Is the polar opposite of being led by the nose along a walled garden walkway hiding what is on the other side of the bricks the way to do what is best for the ones under your protection?  Do you believe the "Chinese way" of unquestioned government allegiance is an ideal goal for you and your family? 

    Do you encourage your grandson to read and study and be familiar with arguments on all sides of an issue rather than some Republican/Democrat authority (or even you) choosing for him? Well of course you do. You trust your grandson's intelligence and character enough to let him find his own path, or at least I hope you do. Do you?

    In China they would not trust him to freely educate himself and find his own personal truths, far too dangerous to party goals for society to permit news that questions of party goals. Under Western standards he is, even encouraged. Which do you want for your grandson George? If it's somewhere between the two isn't China as equally wrong for your family as your own country is?

    Surprise me with something other than calling me a silly name, changing the subject, or some other failure of logic. 
    Oferronnmuthuk_vanalingamelijahg
  • Reply 6 of 16
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 9,627member
    lkrupp said:
    Your fawning over a totalitarian regime is sickening. In the 1930s many Americans were mesmerized by the totalitarian fascist regime unfolding in Germany at the time.  Things were getting done, roads were being built, the economy was being resurrected, Germans were becoming prosperous. Intellectuals were fawning over that regime’s leader like you do over China’s leader. Totalitarianism was the future some thought, because things got done without the messy process of people voting for what they wanted.

    With your last sentence it is now perfectly clear that you espouse the concept of totalitarianism, the suppression of speech that you deem dangerous. The government should regulate freedom, Chinese style, for the “good of the people”. The government should completely control the economy.
    Funny though how those who proclaim that "free speech" you're so protective of are advocating that same kind of fascist regime you claim to detest.

    Hitler was freely elected in a democratic election and used those same democratic protections to become a dictator -- just like you are promoting.

    You know what, George. We’re tired of your blathering, moronic nonsense. Move to China if you love it so much.
    edited October 21 ronnelijahgwatto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 16
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 10,684member
    gatorguy said:
    These days we in the U.S. see journalistic attacks on our country and our government as normal.   Some even believe they are our strength.

    China sees them as unacceptable.

    Here, largely because of the of the misinformation and attacks our people are dying, our economy is in tatters and our democracy hangs by a thread -- all of which started with the first BigLie 20 years ago and has grown and progressed every year since.  There they have a healthy population, healthy economy and a strong government.

    So, what price are we willing to pay for this freedom?  Are we willing to sacrifice our lives?  Our wealth?   Our democracy?  for it?

    So propaganda-tinged official party sanctioned news being the only permitted sources, topped with disinformation, and heavy censorship of alternative reporting to keep the party in power from being questioned is the right answer? Here in the US even your hated Fox News doesn't have that power and influence. You are free to read unbiased Chinese sources for US news if you prefer it over what you perceive as biased US ones. You are assumed to have the propensity to choose for yourself and accept the rewards and consequences as a free-thinking human being. 

    IMHO, the controlling political party hiding any news that might question their decisions is hardly a good way to lead a country into the future George. It assumes you are not wise enough to see the truth and then properly choose, thus choice must be removed by omission.

    You may think US citizens having such a large (undue?) influence on our government is a bad thing, and some will agree with you. I'm actually on your side in some small ways. Is the polar opposite of being led by the nose along a walled garden walkway hiding what is on the other side of the bricks the way to do what is best for the ones under your protection?  Do you believe the "Chinese way" of unquestioned government allegiance is an ideal goal for you and your family? 

    Do you encourage your grandson to read and study and be familiar with arguments on all sides of an issue rather than some Republican/Democrat authority (or even you) choosing for him? Well of course you do. You trust your grandson's intelligence and character enough to let him find his own path, or at least I hope you do. Do you?

    In China they would not trust him to freely educate himself and find his own personal truths, far too dangerous to party goals for society to permit news that questions of party goals. Under Western standards he is, even encouraged. Which do you want for your grandson George? If it's somewhere between the two isn't China as equally wrong for your family as your own country is?

    Surprise me with something other than calling me a silly name, changing the subject, or some other failure of logic. 

    Watch the current episode of of Stewart on Apple TV+ to understand how that is total bullshit. 
    He demonstrates how the propaganda you are so fond of has our democracy hanging by a thread and under attack by a second fascist dictator and the cult who supports and enables it.

    But instead you defend the propagation of that professionally produced propaganda designed to brain wash the American people into supporting another Hitler into using our democracy to install himself as a fascist dictator.   He almost succeeded -- he used that propaganda to brainwash almost half the country -- including you apparently.  But, when he was finally given the boot he has proceeded to instigate an attack on our Capitol and continues his efforts to undermine our democracy -- all using the free speech you love so much to undermine our elections and spread his propaganda.

    It is because of the brainwashed fools defending that propaganda who enable the wanna be dictators and are the reasons why our democracy hangs by a thread.

    But go ahead and try to minimize and marginalize those attacks on our democracy.
    If you dislike democracy so much, perhaps you would be happier in Putin's Russia.

    Alex_Vwaveparticle
  • Reply 8 of 16
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 23,300member
    gatorguy said:
    These days we in the U.S. see journalistic attacks on our country and our government as normal.   Some even believe they are our strength.

    China sees them as unacceptable.

    Here, largely because of the of the misinformation and attacks our people are dying, our economy is in tatters and our democracy hangs by a thread -- all of which started with the first BigLie 20 years ago and has grown and progressed every year since.  There they have a healthy population, healthy economy and a strong government.

    So, what price are we willing to pay for this freedom?  Are we willing to sacrifice our lives?  Our wealth?   Our democracy?  for it?

    So propaganda-tinged official party sanctioned news being the only permitted sources, topped with disinformation, and heavy censorship of alternative reporting to keep the party in power from being questioned is the right answer? Here in the US even your hated Fox News doesn't have that power and influence. You are free to read unbiased Chinese sources for US news if you prefer it over what you perceive as biased US ones. You are assumed to have the propensity to choose for yourself and accept the rewards and consequences as a free-thinking human being. 

    IMHO, the controlling political party hiding any news that might question their decisions is hardly a good way to lead a country into the future George. It assumes you are not wise enough to see the truth and then properly choose, thus choice must be removed by omission.

    You may think US citizens having such a large (undue?) influence on our government is a bad thing, and some will agree with you. I'm actually on your side in some small ways. Is the polar opposite of being led by the nose along a walled garden walkway hiding what is on the other side of the bricks the way to do what is best for the ones under your protection?  Do you believe the "Chinese way" of unquestioned government allegiance is an ideal goal for you and your family? 

    Do you encourage your grandson to read and study and be familiar with arguments on all sides of an issue rather than some Republican/Democrat authority (or even you) choosing for him? Well of course you do. You trust your grandson's intelligence and character enough to let him find his own path, or at least I hope you do. Do you?

    In China they would not trust him to freely educate himself and find his own personal truths, far too dangerous to party goals for society to permit news that questions of party goals. Under Western standards he is, even encouraged. Which do you want for your grandson George? If it's somewhere between the two isn't China as equally wrong for your family as your own country is?

    Surprise me with something other than calling me a silly name, changing the subject, or some other failure of logic. 

    Watch the current episode of of Stewart on Apple TV+ to understand how that is total bullshit. 
    He demonstrates how the propaganda you are so fond of has our democracy hanging by a thread and under attack by a second fascist dictator and the cult who supports and enables it.

    But instead you defend the propagation of that professionally produced propaganda designed to brain wash the American people into supporting another Hitler into using our democracy to install himself as a fascist dictator.   He almost succeeded -- he used that propaganda to brainwash almost half the country -- including you apparently.  But, when he was finally given the boot he has proceeded to instigate an attack on our Capitol and continues his efforts to undermine our democracy -- all using the free speech you love so much to undermine our elections and spread his propaganda.

    It is because of the brainwashed fools defending that propaganda who enable the wanna be dictators and are the reasons why our democracy hangs by a thread.

    But go ahead and try to minimize and marginalize those attacks on our democracy.
    If you dislike democracy so much, perhaps you would be happier in Putin's Russia.

    Huh. I ask about China too and not just the USA, yet all you willingly offer your appraisal of is the US media, no comment whatsoever on the heavily censored China model? I even say I'm somewhat sympathetic but you answer as tho you're talking to someone else and responding to what they said instead, in effect another logic fail of the Strawman?

    If I chose to flip the script and say to you "If you dislike democracy so much perhaps you would be happier in China", it would be equally as dishonest a debating point as yours. That's why I don't resort to such illogic just to imagine I "win".

    So maybe read the words I wrote again George and directly address what I asked rather than inserting some non-logical "I support Hitler" silliness and claims that I must support propaganda (from China or the West doesn't matter), while you avoid comment on whether you would endorse Chinese-style party-in-control media censorship in the US for your grandson, something I actually did ask your opinion on.

    Unless you can be honest, no matter where the chips fall, there's no benefit to anyone reading this thread if you choose to respond. It's OK to say China is flawed too and neither model would be your choice for your Grandson (or for your), just as it's OK to say you want your Grandson to grow up in a party-controlled censored environment. You've already implied the Western free media model isn't acceptable for you. 

    Hitler could only have maintained control of Germany in a censored party-state controlled media environment, closer to the China model than the US. Barring a Government overthrow and takeover of our country by either the Republicans or the Democrats, that's hardly a realistic claim from you George.  It's a cop-out IMHO.
    edited October 21 muthuk_vanalingamronnelijahg
  • Reply 9 of 16
    lkrupp said:
    Your fawning over a totalitarian regime is sickening. In the 1930s many Americans were mesmerized by the totalitarian fascist regime unfolding in Germany at the time.  Things were getting done, roads were being built, the economy was being resurrected, Germans were becoming prosperous. Intellectuals were fawning over that regime’s leader like you do over China’s leader. Totalitarianism was the future some thought, because things got done without the messy process of people voting for what they wanted.

    With your last sentence it is now perfectly clear that you espouse the concept of totalitarianism, the suppression of speech that you deem dangerous. The government should regulate freedom, Chinese style, for the “good of the people”. The government should completely control the economy.
    Western culture is obsessed with freedom of speech. Because westerners believe it is the only way to find the truth. A statement of fact is not truth. Blind men wants to know what an elephant looks like. By touching the elephant blind men think what an elephant is. Each statement is a fact. But they are not the truth of what an elephant looks like. Freedom of speech is mired in this false assumption. Westerners think by finding facts they can find out the truth. 

    Chinese culture follows Confucious doctrine. His teachings concentrated on how human beings can live peacefully with nature and other people. He gave up on how to finding the truth. Instead he focused on how a government should work. This is the biggest deficiency of western culture. Since ancient Greek westerners respect freedom because of nomad culture. Democracy is compatible with freedom. In Western culture government leader has no power. The power is only given by laws. Therefore western government is inept. Chinese civilization excels over western civilization because of this historical reason. The situation changed dramatically after western world through Renaissance discovered modern science by freedom of research. Modern science spawned industrial revolution. Western civilization exceeded Chinese civilization. With this newfound culture westerners look down on Chinese people. 

    However, western culture still cannot make government better with democracy. Because truth can only be found from highly intelligent people like Newton and Einstein. Ordinary people are blind men. They are manipulated by evil people. 
    GeorgeBMac
  • Reply 10 of 16
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 11,754member
    elijahg said:
    These days we in the U.S. see journalistic attacks on our country and our government as normal.   Some even believe they are our strength.

    China sees them as unacceptable.

    Here, largely because of the of the misinformation and attacks our people are dying, our economy is in tatters and our democracy hangs by a thread -- all of which started with the first BigLie 20 years ago and has grown and progressed every year since.  There they have a healthy population, healthy economy and a strong government.

    So, what price are we willing to pay for this freedom?  Are we willing to sacrifice our lives?  Our wealth?   Our democracy?  for it?
    Our China shill is back just on cue! So government sponsored oppression and murder in China is absolutely fine. Got it. It's better not to be told about the things government is doing because how else can they sweep it under the carpet and get away with anything they want? You've apparently missed the news that Evergrande is about to go under with $300bn of debt, and China's property bubble is about to burst. What's that about "our economy is in tatters"?
    Yeah I really don’t understand his shilling for China. I long ago concluded he has undisclosed interests. Members of this forum have shared dozens of links by international bodies confirming China’s crimes against humanity, but he doesn’t care. 
    edited October 21 ronnelijahggatorguywatto_cobra
  • Reply 11 of 16
    mubailimubaili Posts: 445member
    Until Apple gets its acts together and have a second supply chain ready outside of China Apple’s hands are tied. Instead of paying dividends and doing stock buy backs, Apple should spend all these money to set up an alternative supply chain. Once it is up, Apple could then push back on those demands, go to courts to challenge those demands, or make those demands details public for everyone to see and judge. Until then, there is not much Apple can do but kowtow to all those demands…
    elijahgwatto_cobra
  • Reply 12 of 16
    mubaili said:
    Until Apple gets its acts together and have a second supply chain ready outside of China Apple’s hands are tied. Instead of paying dividends and doing stock buy backs, Apple should spend all these money to set up an alternative supply chain. Once it is up, Apple could then push back on those demands, go to courts to challenge those demands, or make those demands details public for everyone to see and judge. Until then, there is not much Apple can do but kowtow to all those demands…
    This is China haters dream. It won't work. Plenty of companies in the world manufacture in China. Samsung does. Intel does. This is not because of cheap labor. Cook had said it before. China has enough talented hard working people to satisfy Apple's production needs. No other nation can replace it. 
    GeorgeBMac
  • Reply 13 of 16
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 10,684member
    mubaili said:
    Until Apple gets its acts together and have a second supply chain ready outside of China Apple’s hands are tied. Instead of paying dividends and doing stock buy backs, Apple should spend all these money to set up an alternative supply chain. Once it is up, Apple could then push back on those demands, go to courts to challenge those demands, or make those demands details public for everyone to see and judge. Until then, there is not much Apple can do but kowtow to all those demands…

    So you want Apple to become an extension of the American government pushing our ideology onto others and used as a weapon against those you don't like.   You know,  like they (falsely) accuse China of doing.
  • Reply 14 of 16
    Here, largely because of the of the misinformation and attacks our people are dying, our economy is in tatters and our democracy hangs by a thread -- all of which started with the first BigLie 20 years ago and has grown and progressed every year since.  
    What are you referring to as the "first BigLie 20 years ago"?  Honest question.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 15 of 16
    crowleycrowley Posts: 9,082member
    nicholfd said:
    Here, largely because of the of the misinformation and attacks our people are dying, our economy is in tatters and our democracy hangs by a thread -- all of which started with the first BigLie 20 years ago and has grown and progressed every year since.  
    What are you referring to as the "first BigLie 20 years ago"?  Honest question.
    Iraq War maybe?  Or Bush beating Gore?
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 16 of 16
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 10,684member
    nicholfd said:
    Here, largely because of the of the misinformation and attacks our people are dying, our economy is in tatters and our democracy hangs by a thread -- all of which started with the first BigLie 20 years ago and has grown and progressed every year since.  
    What are you referring to as the "first BigLie 20 years ago"?  Honest question.

    The Selling of the Iraq War after 9/11.
    Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 but Bush & his cabinet had a vendetta against them.   So, the American defense & intelligence agencies were stacked with loyalists who found "evidence" to support an invasion and any and all dissenters were smeared and attacked -- from Valerie Plame to the U.N.   Nobody dared to speak against the lie.   But the brave U.N. inspectors did:   Colin Powell stood at the U.N. and proclaimed:  "We KNOW there are WMDs in this building because we have satellite photos that prove it".   Within an hour U.N. inspectors retorted:  "We were just in that building.  There's nothing there".  But, since we had demonized and smeared the U.N., Colin Powell's word was taken over that of the officials who had been there and seen it and Powell's speech reinforced the BigLie being spun by Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld.

    Partly what fueled and enabled the lie was that the American public and its media as well as its politicians could not conceive that their president and his officials would so blatantly lie to them.  It was inconceivable.  Until that point, American politicians had been held to a standard of impeccable honesty (at least about such things as war with another country).

    And, once it was revealed that it had all been a BigLie (that killed 600,000 Iraqis and spawned ISIS) what was the American response?   A BigShrug.

    As bad as it was though it had another effect:  It paved the way for the second BigLie that has the potential to take down American democracy -- because the response from half of America has been either a BigShrug or active support.
    edited October 24
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