Spotify blows through 2021 HiFi streaming deadline, with no release in sight

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Ten months after initially announcing Spotify HiFi lossless audio and subsequently missing its 2021 deadline for launch, Spotify isn't offering any hint of a revised timeline for the feature.




In February 2021, Spotify attempted to spoil the launch of lossless audio streams on Apple Music by declaring its own feature was on the way. Spotify HiFi, which would provide CD-quality lossless audio to Premium subscribers, was supposed to launch in "select markets" later in 2021.

Almost ten months later without a release, Spotify has offered an update on Spotify HiFi. However, rather than being hopeful and offering when to expect its launch, the update is somewhat disappointing for those paying a monthly subscription to the music streaming service.

In an update to a lengthy community thread for feature ideas, Spotify posted on Friday an assurance that it is still working on the feature. "We know that HiFi quality audio is important to you. We feel the same, and we're excited to deliver a Spotify HiFi experience to Premium users in the future," the update reads.

While initially hopeful, the update then follows up by admitting "But we don't have timing details to share yet." Spotify concludes by saying it will update the community about the feature in the future.

Spotify doesn't offer any explanation for why it missed its quite long deadline, nor what is stopping it from offering the service to paying users.

Though Spotify attempted to spoil the launch of Apple Music lossless audio the Apple streaming service's feature seemingly wasn't affected by the announcement. Apple announced lossless audio and Spatial Audio with Dolby Atmos in May, then made the features available to users in June.



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  • Reply 1 of 15
    But people on here always claim that Apple copies Spotify.
    lkruppwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 2 of 15
    elijahgelijahg Posts: 2,896member
    But people on here always claim that Apple copies Spotify.
    Do they? Where? I wish Apple did copy Spotify's recommendation algorithm.
    Oferxyzzy01macxpressuraharacuriousrun8
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  • Reply 3 of 15
    thttht Posts: 5,917member
    So, they can't afford the streaming bandwidth or the labels won't give them a license for lossless music cheaply? All of the above?

    Kind of speaks to Spotify's market position as the "big dog". When you are the major player, things don't come cheaply or easy anymore.
    scstrrfwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 4 of 15
    neoncatneoncat Posts: 184member
    The concern trolling among the Apple fan sites about a throwaway feature is top-notch. Both AppleInsider and 9to5 Mac dedicated above-the-fold space on a Sunday morning to this. Like, someone got out of bed on a day off to write this nonsense.

    To be clear: As a Spotify Premium subscriber, I certainly wish they wouldn't promise features they're unable to deliver. However: Glass houses and all, given Apple's inability to deliver its full menu of promised features in iOS 15 or Big Sur, even months after their launch. Software development is incredibly difficult. The push-pull between what marketing wants to tease and what engineering can deliver is real, and present at any company, whether Apple or Spotify or a 5-person app shop. Difficult, under the best of circumstances.

    Maybe be better, AI? You write some great articles and often cut through the junk that passes as content elsewhere. Kudos. Stuff like this is not up to standard, IMO (Offered respectfully. Obvi, I'm one reader among thousands. Take my comments within that context.)
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  • Reply 5 of 15
    genovellegenovelle Posts: 1,481member
    neoncat said:
    The concern trolling among the Apple fan sites about a throwaway feature is top-notch. Both AppleInsider and 9to5 Mac dedicated above-the-fold space on a Sunday morning to this. Like, someone got out of bed on a day off to write this nonsense.

    To be clear: As a Spotify Premium subscriber, I certainly wish they wouldn't promise features they're unable to deliver. However: Glass houses and all, given Apple's inability to deliver its full menu of promised features in iOS 15 or Big Sur, even months after their launch. Software development is incredibly difficult. The push-pull between what marketing wants to tease and what engineering can deliver is real, and present at any company, whether Apple or Spotify or a 5-person app shop. Difficult, under the best of circumstances.

    Maybe be better, AI? You write some great articles and often cut through the junk that passes as content elsewhere. Kudos. Stuff like this is not up to standard, IMO (Offered respectfully. Obvi, I'm one reader among thousands. Take my comments within that context.)
    Did Apple promise the features you mentioned would be available at launch, have they ever? At the same time, how many features and products does apple create or update every year. Spotify has One Product and the one feature the promised 8 months ago is a no show while Apple has theirs released on time in addition to hundreds of other features. 
    williamlondonwinstoner71stompyleavingthebiggscstrrftmayuraharaSpitbathbadmonkwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 6 of 15
    Japheyjaphey Posts: 1,773member
    neoncat said:
    The concern trolling among the Apple fan sites about a throwaway feature is top-notch. Both AppleInsider and 9to5 Mac dedicated above-the-fold space on a Sunday morning to this. Like, someone got out of bed on a day off to write this nonsense.

    To be clear: As a Spotify Premium subscriber, I certainly wish they wouldn't promise features they're unable to deliver. However: Glass houses and all, given Apple's inability to deliver its full menu of promised features in iOS 15 or Big Sur, even months after their launch. Software development is incredibly difficult. The push-pull between what marketing wants to tease and what engineering can deliver is real, and present at any company, whether Apple or Spotify or a 5-person app shop. Difficult, under the best of circumstances.

    Maybe be better, AI? You write some great articles and often cut through the junk that passes as content elsewhere. Kudos. Stuff like this is not up to standard, IMO (Offered respectfully. Obvi, I'm one reader among thousands. Take my comments within that context.)
    And yet, your counter-trolling post was nearly as long as the article itself? On a Sunday afternoon. While it may be disappointing to Spotify Premium subscribers  (myself included), it’s” above the fold “ because it’s a slow news day and it provides a bit of entertaining relief to Apple fans who have had to listen to the classless insults that Spotify has been hurling at Apple for the past several years. Apple is held accountable and taken to task for every single thing they say. If Spotify is so morally superior to Apple, shouldn’t they be as well?
    viclauyycwinstoner71stompymwhiteleavingthebiggscstrrftmaySpitbathwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 7 of 15
    Japheyjaphey Posts: 1,773member
    genovelle said:
    neoncat said:
    The concern trolling among the Apple fan sites about a throwaway feature is top-notch. Both AppleInsider and 9to5 Mac dedicated above-the-fold space on a Sunday morning to this. Like, someone got out of bed on a day off to write this nonsense.

    To be clear: As a Spotify Premium subscriber, I certainly wish they wouldn't promise features they're unable to deliver. However: Glass houses and all, given Apple's inability to deliver its full menu of promised features in iOS 15 or Big Sur, even months after their launch. Software development is incredibly difficult. The push-pull between what marketing wants to tease and what engineering can deliver is real, and present at any company, whether Apple or Spotify or a 5-person app shop. Difficult, under the best of circumstances.

    Maybe be better, AI? You write some great articles and often cut through the junk that passes as content elsewhere. Kudos. Stuff like this is not up to standard, IMO (Offered respectfully. Obvi, I'm one reader among thousands. Take my comments within that context.)
    Did Apple promise the features you mentioned would be available at launch, have they ever? At the same time, how many features and products does apple create or update every year. Spotify has One Product and the one feature the promised 8 months ago is a no show while Apple has theirs released on time in addition to hundreds of other features. 
    Well said. Why shouldn’t Spotify be held accountable? Still waiting on that native HomePod support by the way…

    https://www.macrumors.com/2021/11/22/spotify-users-impatient-lack-homepod-support/

    edited January 2022
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  • Reply 8 of 15
    stompystompy Posts: 414member
    neoncat said:
    ...However: Glass houses and all, given Apple's inability to deliver its full menu of promised features in iOS 15 or Big Sur, even months after their launch. ...
    Spotify's announcement was grandstanding, pure and simple. Apple has changed their OS launch strategy, but I can see how you'd equate the two.

    From an article on MacWorld
    "There was a time, last decade, when Apple would ship new versions of iOS and macOS whether or not all their features were ready for public consumption. It’s become much more disciplined lately, choosing to delay features when they don't work."

    Nowadays, if there's a feature I think would be nice to have, I'd certainly like it to be ready on launch day, but my expectation is that it appear before next WWDC.
    scstrrfwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 9 of 15
    neoncatneoncat Posts: 184member
    (chuckle) Fair enough. I clearly touched a nerve, and AI made the right editorial decision publishing this piece, then. It generated valuable clicks and pageviews fed into the ad tracking/profiling beast on a day when otherwise there would be few. I still think "content" like this is beneath adults, as is "fandom" for multinational corporations in general, but it's OK if I'm an outlier in that regard.

    I'll stand by my broader point, however: The entire tech sector—Apple, Spotify, and everyone in-between—would benefit from the discipline that focus brings. Fewer features, fewer promises. Deliver what you can intelligently and shut up about the rest.
    edited January 2022
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  • Reply 10 of 15
    Japheyjaphey Posts: 1,773member
    neoncat said:
    (chuckle) Fair enough. I clearly touched a nerve, and AI made the right editorial decision publishing this piece, then. It generated valuable clicks and pageviews fed into the ad tracking/profiling beast on a day when otherwise there would be few. I still think "content" like this is beneath adults, as is "fandom" for multinational corporations in general, but it's OK if I'm an outlier in that regard.

    I'll stand by my broader point, however: The entire tech sector—Apple, Spotify, and everyone in-between—would benefit from the discipline that focus brings. Fewer features, fewer promises. Deliver what you can intelligently and shut up about the rest.
    Fair enough. I do wonder, however, why someone would even come to a site dedicated to the fandom of a multinational corporation then consume and interact with the content there if it’s so beneath him/her.  No judgement, you do you. I just find it curious. 
    scstrrfwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 11 of 15
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,699member
    neoncat said:
    The concern trolling among the Apple fan sites about a throwaway feature is top-notch. Both AppleInsider and 9to5 Mac dedicated above-the-fold space on a Sunday morning to this. Like, someone got out of bed on a day off to write this nonsense.

    To be clear: As a Spotify Premium subscriber, I certainly wish they wouldn't promise features they're unable to deliver. However: Glass houses and all, given Apple's inability to deliver its full menu of promised features in iOS 15 or Big Sur, even months after their launch. Software development is incredibly difficult. The push-pull between what marketing wants to tease and what engineering can deliver is real, and present at any company, whether Apple or Spotify or a 5-person app shop. Difficult, under the best of circumstances.

    Maybe be better, AI? You write some great articles and often cut through the junk that passes as content elsewhere. Kudos. Stuff like this is not up to standard, IMO (Offered respectfully. Obvi, I'm one reader among thousands. Take my comments within that context.)
    I doubt this has anything to do with software development. It’s far more likely that the very low rates Spotify gives to the music authorities is a major stumbling block. Apple was able to offer this at current prices. But Spotify, which loses money most quarters, despite promising several years ago that they would remain in the black, likely can’t afford this. If Apple raised prices to $15 per month as Amazon had done for lossless, then they could have also done that. But with Apple not doing so, they couldn’t either. Amazon lowered their pricing subsequently. So it’s possible they’re still trying to negotiate pricing.

    since they’ve already claimed that they pay too much, it’s going to be difficult for them to compete against Amazon and Apple, neither of which have to worry about profit/loss balance sheets for their music offerings.
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  • Reply 12 of 15
    neoncatneoncat Posts: 184member
    No no, totally a fair question. I kinda laid that out in my first message: I think there's a ton of great stuff on AI. I've read more than a few of their "how to" articles thinking, "aww, I know that already" and it turns out—didn't know it as well as I thought I did. I love learning new things, and AI does a better job than most explaining complex topics. The rumor articles are interesting too, just to see where Apple is headed versus where the industry as a whole is. 

    The stuff that's clearly written to "hit an audience" as sportsball-style fan service I mostly ignore, here and elsewhere, and I probably should've done the same to this article. Not sure why I chose to pull the thread, but as is often the case, now the whole sweater lays at my feet. I'll own that. I appreciate that people have been reasonable/measured in their pushback, however (yourself included).
    edited January 2022
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  • Reply 13 of 15
    jcs2305jcs2305 Posts: 1,342member
    neoncat said:
    (chuckle) Fair enough. I clearly touched a nerve, and AI made the right editorial decision publishing this piece, then. It generated valuable clicks and pageviews fed into the ad tracking/profiling beast on a day when otherwise there would be few. I still think "content" like this is beneath adults, as is "fandom" for multinational corporations in general, but it's OK if I'm an outlier in that regard.

    I'll stand by my broader point, however: The entire tech sector—Apple, Spotify, and everyone in-between—would benefit from the discipline that focus brings. Fewer features, fewer promises. Deliver what you can intelligently and shut up about the rest.

    "How many comments are needed to bring attention to this? More than 100 pages? Being a software engineer myself, I understand that such integration shouldn't take THAT MUCH time. Come on, it's hard not to conclude that Spotify has intentionally decided not to implement it. They haven't even said a simple "yes, we're on it."

    It doesn't seem like Spotify cares about their users considering the number of votes on this."


    "Left Spotify, this was a dealbreaker for me - Nothing happened and they don't care about the consumer - waited for a year, but nothing happened. I got 6 months free subscription with my AirPods, so it was time to leave. It's Time to Play Fair Spotify, you can't complain about not being on the HomePod, and then when they let you in you don't even bother to support it."

    I find it odd that you proudly give these folks your money every month and come here to defend them? I have said this in the past.. why do folks come to an Applecentiric website to troll, and then act as if they can't comprehend why people are reacting? Like seriously?  It's like being a Sox fan and going into Yankee stadium and trash talking the Yankees. Then when someone comes back at you with a counter you act as if you have no idea why they would react in this way? Hahaha..come on. It's pretty "Obvi" you hit a nerve on Appleinsider when you troll Apple music to cover yet another of Spotify's promises not kept.







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  • Reply 14 of 15
    neoncatneoncat Posts: 184member
    I give them money because I prefer their service. I've had three free trials for Apple Music and conclusively did not prefer it. I have no specific allegiance to any one brand or company, I use a mix of services and software options by a host of different companies on (largely) Apple hardware, although I am perfectly comfortable on Windows. Not so certain about Android since I don't have a lot of experience with it, but I'm sure I could manage. 

    Some of you are so focused on maintaining the Apple narrative that anything to the contrary is automatically trolling. If AI's handlers believe I'm trolling, I'm sure they'll intercede and I'll respectfully shut my yap and stop contributing here (not that my 50-60 odd posts matters much, I'm sure). I offered feedback, they can tell me to pound sand if they so wish, I won't take it personally, just like I don't take my technology choices personally. I use what works for me. You use what works for you. We both win. No company deserves our time as cheerleaders, however.

    "It's like being a Sox fan and going into Yankee stadium and trash talking the Yankees."

    Fair analogy, but I'm not the one trash talking. 
    edited January 2022
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  • Reply 15 of 15
    Spotify's constantly blaming of others for any perceived competition issues doesn't jibe well with them being the slowest and most behind in music features.

    Side thought: their marketing visuals are so forced. All the psychedelic colours feels as poorly as "hello fellow kids".
    edited January 2022
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