Foxconn forcing sick workers to stay on iPhone production lines

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Foxconn's bid to catch up on Apple's iPhone 14 Pro orders at its Zhengzhou factory in China is reportedly endangering further outbreaks, by having ill workers stay on the production line.

A Foxconn facility
A Foxconn facility


After months of measures to limit the spread of COVID throughout its workforce, the largest iPhone 14 Pro factory in China lifted most of its restrictions on November 30. However, Foxconn's efforts to catch up after falling behind may be continuing to put the workforce at further risk of infection.

Employees speaking to Rest Of World claim that they have caught the virus after joining the factory. However, instead of being sent off lines after displaying symptoms, some alleged that they were asked to continue working.

One employee alleges that several of their colleagues worked while having a fever. They also had symptoms of being unwell, including having trouble breathing, but spent 11 hours on the line that day, and 10 hours the following day.

That worker's supervisor also apparently told employees to avoid being tested so they could stay on production lines. Foxconn's policies dictate those with positive results are banned from production facilities and dormitories.

Those who were diagnosed as having COVID-19 were also held away from the rest of the workforce in various facilities, including a vocational school and an unfinished apartment complex, report sources say. There were some issues with medical supplies, along with food shortages and dirty toilets.

Some workers also feared for their income if they took sick leave.

During the fall, measures such as closed-loop systems that confined factory workers and higher levels of testing reduced the amount of illness on the production lines. Since the restrictions have lifted, workers now say there's more instances of coughing and fever on lines compared to earlier in the fall.

The symptoms and need to work isn't limited to just line workers. One worker's managers seemed sick as well, using raspy voices to scold employees and having problems walking steadily.

After a prolonged period of employee unrest caused by the need to contain and fight COVID, and at the peak of the holiday shopping period, Foxconn was likely to intend this time to be an opportunity to catch up to iPhone demand.

If unheeded, Foxconn could end up triggering more lockdowns, which could create further worker riots, and slow down Apple's iPhone 14 Pro shipments even more.

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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 16
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    Who is this ‘Rest of World’ activist group? I’m not saying this is made up but these types of groups do tend to exaggerate claims made by workers, just like union organizers do. The truth usually lies somewhere in the middle. We do know that the dictator Xi Jinping went from zero-covid to don’t-give-a-shit seemingly overnight. 

    In either event brace yourselves for the usual anti-Apple drivel to follow an article like this one. And remember this article when you buy that gadget for your kid made in a factory just down the road from Foxconn. It’s not only Apple you know. It’s everybody who manufactures in China.
    edited December 2022 FileMakerFellerjony0
  • Reply 2 of 16
    I'm pretty sure Apple would object to forcing sick workers to stay on the line despite the Pro phone shortfall.

    Foxconn needs to get their shit in order - behavior like this is sure to leak and is counterproductive.
    FileMakerFellerwatto_cobrajony0byronl
  • Reply 3 of 16
    I read some stories that in Beijing some company ask sick people to work in office and tell healthy people to work at home. And some hospital worker went to work while sick. This is all by the order of dictator Xi? LOL
  • Reply 4 of 16
    sbdudesbdude Posts: 261member
    However, instead of being sent off lines after displaying symptoms, some alleged that they were asked to continue working.
    "Asked" or "Forced"? The headline is either misleading or completely wrong.
    watto_cobrajony0byronl
  • Reply 5 of 16
    sbdudesbdude Posts: 261member
    lkrupp said:
    Who is this ‘Rest of World’ activist group?
    It's allegedly "a new global nonprofit publication covering the impact of technology beyond the Western bubble." An "NPR" for the "rest of world", if you will.

  • Reply 6 of 16
    MadbumMadbum Posts: 536member
    Everybody works when they are sick sometimes.

    some people just want to stir it up, probably people paid them to do it to try to crash Apple stock, won’t be the first time

    many of these people won’t need to work sick for much longer because my guess is next year, half of these jobs would be gone as Apple moves out of China. Then these people would be begging to work with little sniffles
    williamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 16
    MadbumMadbum Posts: 536member
    According to this same activist group, some Foxconn workers also saw martians working next to them and another group also said Foxconn asked them to work with split ends on their hair!

    Some people would believe anything…

    where is Apple insiders editorial staff,? Did they get this groups back ground before printing? Have some standards please!
    edited December 2022 CluntBaby92williamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 16
    There are two implicitly divergent thoughts on how to fight the spread of covid. On the ultra left the thought is to prevent the deaths, the zero covid policy is the most extreme that it tries to completely eliminate the spread brutally. On the ultra right the thought is to let the covid spread unrestricted until a herd immunity is achieved. This thought is based on the acknowledge that the death rate of Omicron is very low except maybe the elderly or people with underlying health problems. And the is Darwinism. 
    williamlondon
  • Reply 9 of 16
    mknelsonmknelson Posts: 1,126member
    lkrupp said:
    Who is this ‘Rest of World’ activist group? I’m not saying this is made up but these types of groups do tend to exaggerate claims made by workers, just like union organizers do. The truth usually lies somewhere in the middle. We do know that the dictator Xi Jinping went from zero-covid to don’t-give-a-shit seemingly overnight. 

    In either event brace yourselves for the usual anti-Apple drivel to follow an article like this one. And remember this article when you buy that gadget for your kid made in a factory just down the road from Foxconn. It’s not only Apple you know. It’s everybody who manufactures in China.
    They aren't an activist group. https://restofworld.org/

    They're based in New York and are a tech news site.

    You can even read their standards page: https://restofworld.org/about/ethics-editorial-policies/
    FileMakerFellerjony0
  • Reply 10 of 16
    China officially changed it's Covid policy last week at sessions held in Beijing with Xi Jinping.  It is now CCP policy to get countrywide herd immunity ASAP.  So it is now the law that all citizens, even if they test positive for Covid MUST report to work, be it at a factory or in a medical facility.  At a second positive test, they can self sequester.  China unfortunately does not have a population vaccinated with RNA vaccines and does not have the ICU capacity per 100,000 population comparable to the west.  This will likely be very, very traumatic and messy.
    FileMakerFellerwatto_cobra
  • Reply 11 of 16
    MadbumMadbum Posts: 536member
    There are two implicitly divergent thoughts on how to fight the spread of covid. On the ultra left the thought is to prevent the deaths, the zero covid policy is the most extreme that it tries to completely eliminate the spread brutally. On the ultra right the thought is to let the covid spread unrestricted until a herd immunity is achieved. This thought is based on the acknowledge that the death rate of Omicron is very low except maybe the elderly or people with underlying health problems. And the is Darwinism. 
    Good post and you are right essentially. I would add your “ultra right” way of herd immunity has proven to be the better solution and it’s essentially how humans has survived throughout the history of species . So it’s not a new thought or “out there”

    however, this idea you can close everything and hide the Virus away is frankly stupid beyond belief.
    williamlondonmuthuk_vanalingamwatto_cobrabyronl
  • Reply 12 of 16
    MadbumMadbum Posts: 536member
    mknelson said:
    lkrupp said:
    Who is this ‘Rest of World’ activist group? I’m not saying this is made up but these types of groups do tend to exaggerate claims made by workers, just like union organizers do. The truth usually lies somewhere in the middle. We do know that the dictator Xi Jinping went from zero-covid to don’t-give-a-shit seemingly overnight. 

    In either event brace yourselves for the usual anti-Apple drivel to follow an article like this one. And remember this article when you buy that gadget for your kid made in a factory just down the road from Foxconn. It’s not only Apple you know. It’s everybody who manufactures in China.
    They aren't an activist group. https://restofworld.org/

    They're based in New York and are a tech news site.

    You can even read their standards page: https://restofworld.org/about/ethics-editorial-policies/
    mknelson said:
    lkrupp said:
    Who is this ‘Rest of World’ activist group? I’m not saying this is made up but these types of groups do tend to exaggerate claims made by workers, just like union organizers do. The truth usually lies somewhere in the middle. We do know that the dictator Xi Jinping went from zero-covid to don’t-give-a-shit seemingly overnight. 

    In either event brace yourselves for the usual anti-Apple drivel to follow an article like this one. And remember this article when you buy that gadget for your kid made in a factory just down the road from Foxconn. It’s not only Apple you know. It’s everybody who manufactures in China.
    They aren't an activist group. https://restofworld.org/

    They're based in New York and are a tech news site.

    You can even read their standards page: https://restofworld.org/about/ethics-editorial-policies/
    Lol it’s obviously a hyper anti corporate outfit. Do you really think Foxconn will be forcing anyone to work in the line after what happened 2 weeks ago? Sick from what? Hang nail? Hair split end?

    No named sources, no corroborating sources, completely just made up one sided story
    edited December 2022 williamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Reply 13 of 16
    DAalsethDAalseth Posts: 2,783member
    Wouldn’t surprise me. I’ve talked to several people both online and off saying that factory managers here in North America are pressuring their staff to work if their symptoms “aren’t too bad”. This isn’t just a Foxconn thing.

    There are two implicitly divergent thoughts on how to fight the spread of covid. On the ultra left the thought is to prevent the deaths, the zero covid policy is the most extreme that it tries to completely eliminate the spread brutally. On the ultra right the thought is to let the covid spread unrestricted until a herd immunity is achieved. This thought is based on the acknowledge that the death rate of Omicron is very low except maybe the elderly or people with underlying health problems. And the is Darwinism. 
    The trouble is both schools of thought are overly simplistic. Zero Tolerance is unsustainable. But the idea that it doesn’t kill too many and those that it does don’t really matter because they’re old or sick anyway, is indefensible. The overwhelming majority understand though that our response must be somewhere in the middle. Vaccines, masks, and caution enough to keep it under control, while we get on with our lives. 
    FileMakerFellerdewmewilliamlondonbestkeptsecretwatto_cobragrandact73
  • Reply 14 of 16
    The driving idea behind lockdowns was to limit the spread of the disease as much as possible to avoid overwhelming the healthcare resources available. Everyone in healthcare looked at the likely outcomes of unrestricted communication of the disease and freaked out - and rightly so. Even if the mortality rate of CoVID was the same as modern strains of influenza, the fact that it was even more transmissible and in many cases asymptomatic means that the number of actual deaths would have been much higher. But, as we saw with the US, the mortality rate was higher than the 'flu and a staggering number of people died needlessly.

    The social impact of large numbers of people getting severely ill is a major problem in its own right - no matter the disease. You see all kinds of measures thrown around about what sick days cost "the economy" in general, so even from a purely economic perspective it's worth trying to minimise the number of people who get too sick to work; spread things out as much as possible so that you're not dealing with a sudden shortage that can't be overcome. Lockdowns have a large efficiency cost, but it has to be compared to the efficiency cost of large numbers of people not being able to work at all - which is what China is still struggling with.

    Delaying the point where the disease is endemic - where it's everywhere - buys time to get mitigation strategies in place. Vaccines get developed, safety equipment gets manufactured and distributed, the population puts more effort into personal hygiene, etc, etc. You're never going to stop it, you're trying to minimise the harm.

    It's a shame to see that economic interests are being treated as more important than the health and well-being of the population, but that's the world we live in.
    dewmewilliamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Reply 15 of 16
    wood1208wood1208 Posts: 2,913member
    Foxcomm is good to not force workers to stay home when they don't have severe health condition so they can make money for family.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 16 of 16
    wood1208 said:
    Foxcomm is good to not force workers to stay home when they don't have severe health condition so they can make money for family.
    And they can transmit the virus to other healthy workers. 
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