"I think that their announcement really showcases the difference in the values and the vision that our companies bring to this in a way that I think is really important," Zuckerberg told employees in a meeting on Thursday, according toThe Verge. Yeah and what Zuck values is DEFINITELY not what I do. I’ll take privacy for $1000 Alex.
He is just downplaying a potential threat to his business. What else can he do? it isn’t as though he can say “that is an amazing headset with a paradigm shifting OS”. I think not. He said what he had to say.
VisionPro sees your hands and uses them as the controllers. Everything your hands can do it will be able to do. Every tool you pick up could be a specialist controller for an app that wants to write that code.
also it has a screen purely to allow other people to interact with you. Bit churlish to say it is for people sitting by themselves on the couch.
I thing he has neatly summed up the lack of vision that has made meta beleaguered.
If Apple had announced, "we will allow software developers for the Vision Pro to track the user's eyes to see what they are looking at," Zuck would have heaped praise on Apple's device and promised to develop software for it.
Apple has upped the ante on the technological side but not really brought anything new. It's just souped up what was already out there, and along with it, the price, and wrapped it up nicely with some extra touches.
That said, the finesse is appreciable and also desirable because it reduces a lot of pain points. There is a lot to like (pricing aside).
I'm not sure why there was so much sofa sitting footage in the keynote and hope that more options are just as possible.
You can't fight off a Sith sitting on your sofa!
What Zuckerberg has to understand is that my wife was happy with her Quest and itching to upgrade. That got knocked on the head as soon as Meta made a Facebook account a requirement. That was when we abandoned our plans to upgrade. If more people feel the same way we do, Meta has a problem.
Meta has an image problem that goes far deeper than image. Apple has a big head start over them when it comes to trust.
LOL, no he hasn't said a single correct thing. If you think Apple hasn't done anything new you badly need to watch the Keynote.
Meh, I'm not sure what else you'd expect him to say.
I usually like when they say something like, “the future of computing is here. We started this journey years ago and now we have worthy competition that will continue to fuel our passion for tomorrow.” Something like that
Zuck didn't "start this journey", however. The first VR headset was built in 1968 by Ivan Sutherland. Search Google with the phrase:...
Augmented Reality: "The Ultimate Display" by Ivan Sutherland, 1965
Apple has upped the ante on the technological side but not really brought anything new. It's just souped up what was already out there, and along with it, the price, and wrapped it up nicely with some extra touches.
That said, the finesse is appreciable and also desirable because it reduces a lot of pain points. There is a lot to like (pricing aside).
I'm not sure why there was so much sofa sitting footage in the keynote and hope that more options are just as possible.
You can't fight off a Sith sitting on your sofa!
What Zuckerberg has to understand is that my wife was happy with her Quest and itching to upgrade. That got knocked on the head as soon as Meta made a Facebook account a requirement. That was when we abandoned our plans to upgrade. If more people feel the same way we do, Meta has a problem.
Meta has an image problem that goes far deeper than image. Apple has a big head start over them when it comes to trust.
LOL, no he hasn't said a single correct thing. If you think Apple hasn't done anything new you badly need to watch the Keynote.
Resident Android shill says some shit, surprise surprise, blocked him years ago, so only have to suffer others' responses to his stupid shit.
All I can say is that Vision Pro will provide the best user experience and also respect its user and not sell their data and always monitor what they are doing.
From what I heard the technology that went into Vision Pro is the best you can buy and works very well.
Mark knows who has the better system he just can’t publicly admin it.
Apple has upped the ante on the technological side but not really brought anything new. It's just souped up what was already out there, and along with it, the price, and wrapped it up nicely with some extra touches.
That said, the finesse is appreciable and also desirable because it reduces a lot of pain points. There is a lot to like (pricing aside).
I'm not sure why there was so much sofa sitting footage in the keynote and hope that more options are just as possible.
You can't fight off a Sith sitting on your sofa!
What Zuckerberg has to understand is that my wife was happy with her Quest and itching to upgrade. That got knocked on the head as soon as Meta made a Facebook account a requirement. That was when we abandoned our plans to upgrade. If more people feel the same way we do, Meta has a problem.
Meta has an image problem that goes far deeper than image. Apple has a big head start over them when it comes to trust.
LOL, no he hasn't said a single correct thing. If you think Apple hasn't done anything new you badly need to watch the Keynote.
Enlighten me.
I have seen the entire Vision Pro keynote segment.
Form factor, cameras, Lidar, sensors, gesture and voice control, screens, lenses, materials, specialised chipsets, web and software access...
As a first generation product it soups up all of the above but please don't think that is all 'new'.
Some of it is, for sure, but how much?
I'm not saying Apple hasn't done anything new.
IMO, the real difference is in how it all comes together. Of course at a hefty price but I can understand that. It's pretty compelling all the same.
In fact my favourite feature, which isn't really necessary at all, is the visual representation of the user on the outer screen. A screen showing a representation of the user. It has zero impact on the use of the device but nevertheless serves a purpose for people around the user.
Well, I guess this confirms that Facebook will be copying every single aspect of the Vision Pro that they can get away with without running afoul of Apple's IP.
LOL.. It is the other way around .. Apple is copying Meta..check the link below.
Meta is like Tesla.. it has already sold 10's on millions of Quest.
and it has following prototypes that are probably at the same price point as Apple Vision Pro, but, is not releasing them, as it won't capture market share..
https://mixed-news.com/en/next-gen-vr-meta-shows-its-latest-headset-protoypes/
Apple has upped the ante on the technological side but not really brought anything new. It's just souped up what was already out there, and along with it, the price, and wrapped it up nicely with some extra touches.
That said, the finesse is appreciable and also desirable because it reduces a lot of pain points. There is a lot to like (pricing aside).
I'm not sure why there was so much sofa sitting footage in the keynote and hope that more options are just as possible.
You can't fight off a Sith sitting on your sofa!
What Zuckerberg has to understand is that my wife was happy with her Quest and itching to upgrade. That got knocked on the head as soon as Meta made a Facebook account a requirement. That was when we abandoned our plans to upgrade. If more people feel the same way we do, Meta has a problem.
Meta has an image problem that goes far deeper than image. Apple has a big head start over them when it comes to trust.
LOL, no he hasn't said a single correct thing. If you think Apple hasn't done anything new you badly need to watch the Keynote.
Enlighten me.
I have seen the entire Vision Pro keynote segment.
Form factor, cameras, Lidar, sensors, gesture and voice control, screens, lenses, materials, specialised chipsets, web and software access...
As a first generation product it soups up all of the above but please don't think that is all 'new'.
Some of it is, for sure, but how much?
I'm not saying Apple hasn't done anything new.
IMO, the real difference is in how it all comes together. Of course at a hefty price but I can understand that. It's pretty compelling all the same.
In fact my favourite feature, which isn't really necessary at all, is the visual representation of the user on the outer screen. A screen showing a representation of the user. It has zero impact on the use of the device but nevertheless serves a purpose for people around the user.
From your original post: “….but not really brought anything new”
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Everything your hands can do it will be able to do.
Every tool you pick up could be a specialist controller for an app that wants to write that code.
also it has a screen purely to allow other people to interact with you. Bit churlish to say it is for people sitting by themselves on the couch.
I thing he has neatly summed up the lack of vision that has made meta beleaguered.
Augmented Reality: "The Ultimate Display" by Ivan Sutherland, 1965
And witness the first VR in action here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVUgfUvP4uk
I have seen the entire Vision Pro keynote segment.
Form factor, cameras, Lidar, sensors, gesture and voice control, screens, lenses, materials, specialised chipsets, web and software access...
As a first generation product it soups up all of the above but please don't think that is all 'new'.
Some of it is, for sure, but how much?
I'm not saying Apple hasn't done anything new.
IMO, the real difference is in how it all comes together. Of course at a hefty price but I can understand that. It's pretty compelling all the same.
In fact my favourite feature, which isn't really necessary at all, is the visual representation of the user on the outer screen. A screen showing a representation of the user. It has zero impact on the use of the device but nevertheless serves a purpose for people around the user.
Apple Vision Pro looks like what Zuck already has from last year,, probably price was around 3-4000 dollars, so, didn't release it..
Own one and then buy Apple Vision Pro, and you will surely throw Apple Vision Pro away..
For $3500 dollars, you need to think what you are getting actually vs $400/$500 dollars device.
You very much said Apple didn’t do anything new.
But if you do decide to throw one out please let us know your bin night.