The upside to the AppleInsider on FaceBook is that Comments are never banned under Articles posted there, even when comments are banned under a particular article here. And when you read them today, you can see that I am not alone in having a "what the...!" reaction to the "How to delete your Twitter account..." article, even if it was inspired by requests. Consider the fallout...
I wonder if we will reach a new equilibrium in which:
Threads is for unserious people to talk about unserious things Bluesky is for serious people to talk about serious things Twitter is for unserious people to talk about serious things Mastodon is for serious people to talk about unserious things
Threads is going to end up with our parents on it like Facebook.
Never shed a tear for a billionaire. They wouldn’t for you.
If you don’t like a web site, stop going there. Why bother deleting your account? Just disable notifications and emails and it’s dead. Make an email rule and you won’t be contacted as it can go direct to trash.
Musk plays 4D chess. Best to keep those 4Ds out of your mouth.
Etc. I’m here for Apple News. Insider news… so to speak. Every now and then we get distracted by tech the we use Apple products to access.
The upside to the AppleInsider on FaceBook is that Comments are never banned under Articles posted there, even when comments are banned under a particular article here. And when you read them today, you can see that I am not alone in having a "what the...!" reaction to the "How to delete your Twitter account..." article, even if it was inspired by requests. Consider the fallout...
If that fallout is folks like that stop reading AppleInsider the it's a net win. But they won't stop,,,, you are still here. So I guess the fallout is having to listen to you complain that AppleInsider had the audacity to publish accurate information....... what exactly are you afraid of in this situation, why does knowledge frighten you?
When you fire shipbuilders they'll look for shipbuilding jobs.
Except that’s supposedly not what’s happening here. Musk is saying Meta is poaching. Totally different ball game than an ex employee scoring s job with a competitor.
Let’s at least try to be genuine about things.
As long as we are being genuine, then we need to acknowledge that hiring people away from a competitor isn't illegal.
What we really have here is Musk making claims sans any evidence.
I personally feel folks need to leave Musk alone. He bought Twitter. He can and SHOULD try things. You win sometimes and you lose sometimes. Not all decisions are good. But CHANGE is better than what the old Twitter did.
I am mainly writing this post because I spotted a separate article here on AppleInsider today entitled "How to delete your Twitter account on iOS & the web." I couldn't help but feel that was pushing the "We think Twitter is bad, and we think you should feel that way too" narrative. And what do you know? Comments are BANNED under that article, thereby giving credence to my suspicions.
The world has gone mad. The very fact people spend so much time on social media is partly evidence of that. Calm down. Take a deep breath. Look outside at the beautiful world instead of your mobile phone. Think positive thoughts rather than be so critical. There is a batter way. Most people simply chose not to pursue it.
I agree with your last paragraph but not the first two. Twitter was a shitshow before Musk and it has only gotten worse since he bought it. Having a decent “town square” where debates could happen and things could be shared very much depends on the moderators preventing said shitshow. Threads will undoubtedly become just as bad.
Mike, given what was written in the article above, this claim rings a bit hollow. I’ve been following you guys for years. I like the tech stuff. Buy some of your writers don’t seem to be able to help themselves and can’t stay on message or on mission - that this is a tech publication. I haven’t posted much here of late for a reason.
I know you’ll delete this, and that’s OK. At least you will have read it.
I wish you all the best and hope for better days to come for AI.
If that fallout is folks like that stop reading AppleInsider the it's a net win. But they won't stop,,,, you are still here. So I guess the fallout is having to listen to you complain that AppleInsider had the audacity to publish accurate information....... what exactly are you afraid of in this situation, why does knowledge frighten you?
Hilarious. Here you are doing your own set of complaining, except your complaint is minor -- about me, a single guy in a forum. My issue looks at the broader picture of all the silly media coverage of Musk/Twitter. Just roll with the punches and enjoy the ride. That's the entire point. There's too much complaining about CHANGE.
And as to deleting accounts, I so no need. I have a Twitter account I only use a couple times a year to enter a giveaway. That's it. Interestingly, I won something in the past too. But despite my almost not needing Twitter at all, I see no need to waste my time deleting my account. Maybe it will interest me one day more than it does today. Even so, I wish Musk well. It is his baby now, after all. And the rest of the world who didn't put their money on the line or contribute to the creation of Twitter merely sit around complaining. Madness.
When you fire shipbuilders they'll look for shipbuilding jobs.
Except that’s supposedly not what’s happening here. Musk is saying Meta is poaching. Totally different ball game than an ex employee scoring s job with a competitor.
Let’s at least try to be genuine about things.
FYI: anti-poaching agreements are considered to be illegal. So what's the problem with poaching again?
I personally feel folks need to leave Musk alone. He bought Twitter. He can and SHOULD try things. You win sometimes and you lose sometimes. Not all decisions are good. But CHANGE is better than what the old Twitter did.
I am mainly writing this post because I spotted a separate article here on AppleInsider today entitled "How to delete your Twitter account on iOS & the web." I couldn't help but feel that was pushing the "We think Twitter is bad, and we think you should feel that way too" narrative. And what do you know? Comments are BANNED under that article, thereby giving credence to my suspicions.
The world has gone mad. The very fact people spend so much time on social media is partly evidence of that. Calm down. Take a deep breath. Look outside at the beautiful world instead of your mobile phone. Think positive thoughts rather than be so critical. There is a batter way. Most people simply chose not to pursue it.
I agree with your last paragraph but not the first two. Twitter was a shitshow before Musk and it has only gotten worse since he bought it. Having a decent “town square” where debates could happen and things could be shared very much depends on the moderators preventing said shitshow. Threads will undoubtedly become just as bad.
Mike, given what was written in the article above, this claim rings a bit hollow. I’ve been following you guys for years. I like the tech stuff. Buy some of your writers don’t seem to be able to help themselves and can’t stay on message or on mission - that this is a tech publication. I haven’t posted much here of late for a reason.
I know you’ll delete this, and that’s OK. At least you will have read it.
I wish you all the best and hope for better days to come for AI.
I'm not sure what you're talking about? What claim? Nothing you've quoted above is from me, or an AppleInsider staffer.
If that fallout is folks like that stop reading AppleInsider the it's a net win. But they won't stop,,,, you are still here. So I guess the fallout is having to listen to you complain that AppleInsider had the audacity to publish accurate information....... what exactly are you afraid of in this situation, why does knowledge frighten you?
Hilarious. Here you are doing your own set of complaining, except your complaint is minor -- about me, a single guy in a forum. My issue looks at the broader picture of all the silly media coverage of Musk/Twitter. Just roll with the punches and enjoy the ride. That's the entire point. There's too much complaining about CHANGE.
And as to deleting accounts, I so no need. I have a Twitter account I only use a couple times a year to enter a giveaway. That's it. Interestingly, I won something in the past too. But despite my almost not needing Twitter at all, I see no need to waste my time deleting my account. Maybe it will interest me one day more than it does today. Even so, I wish Musk well. It is his baby now, after all. And the rest of the world who didn't put their money on the line or contribute to the creation of Twitter merely sit around complaining. Madness.
On the contrary, I haven't complained about you at all. I have poked fun of your lack of self-awareness.
Hey, Mike, perhaps the next PSA/tips article should be how to use the block feature in AI. Now that would be a useful tip, perhaps even for folks in this very thread. ;-)
The upside to the AppleInsider on FaceBook is that Comments are never banned under Articles posted there, even when comments are banned under a particular article here. And when you read them today, you can see that I am not alone in having a "what the...!" reaction to the "How to delete your Twitter account..." article, even if it was inspired by requests. Consider the fallout...
If that fallout is folks like that stop reading AppleInsider the it's a net win. But they won't stop,,,, you are still here. So I guess the fallout is having to listen to you complain that AppleInsider had the audacity to publish accurate information....... what exactly are you afraid of in this situation, why does knowledge frighten you?
Lol. Of course. It must be fear. That’s the only rational explanation. No need to consider any of those pesky gray areas…me good, him bad, the end. Ironically, this profound analysis comes in a thread where Jdw is actively seeking more information. But yeah…fear. 🙄
We're not really playing favorites here, guys. lol. That gold checkmark we have on Twitter costs us way more than I like.
The reasons we don't enable comments on our tips -- and haven't for years -- are entirely due to bandwidth. People naturally want to ask questions on them, and we don't have the manpower to have somebody go through them and answer. As you can see we clearly don't look at Facebook comments. There are not very many layers of abstraction here. There's like maybe three or four of us here that you could ever potentially get a response from, and we all do that as best-effort in our spare time. Right now me sitting here typing this is me typing this instead of working on a feature for the website.
That said, we are in the process of finding a community manager / social media person to help us because we understand that we have fumbled the ball a bit over the past few years. Our goal is to foster a healthy, mature, helpful, and inclusive community and we just haven't had the manpower. Maybe once our community manager is hired and on-boarded we will revisit allowing comments on articles with a more political slant, or on our tips when we know people won't just be sending questions into the void.
But CHANGE is better than what the old Twitter did.
How would you know what the old Twitter did? You're claiming you only used it a couple of times a year in another post in this thread.
Yet more complaining/trolling of me. Crazy. Especially so when the answer to your own question is obvious. How much usage does it take to know what the old Twitter did? Please quantify that for us, because you obviously are suggesting a few uses per year is impossible for you to know anything about Twitter. Too bad, because it isn't impossible for me. Especially so when I read the tech news daily to supplement my usage. No one can say they are in the dark about the new or old Twitter, and especially not someone who has used it before.
On the contrary, I haven't complained about you at all. I have poked fun of your lack of self-awareness.
Not "at all"??? "On the contrary" indicates you disagree with me. So let's ponder what you wrote earlier in response to me...
"...having to listen to you complain that AppleInsider had the audacity to publish accurate information....... what exactly are you afraid of in this situation, why does knowledgefrighten you?"
Go ahead and label your reply to me as merely "poking fun" if you will, but I view that as a thinly veiled complaint of me. And of course, I think it's rather crazy too because the "knowledge" you speak of is the heart of the matter. So let's dive deeper into "knowledge" and "accurate information," shall we?
My opening post on page 1 of this thread was about the OTHER related AppleInsider article, under which we are prohibited from posting comments (although FaceBook does allow them under that same article, funny as that is). The title of that other related article is "How to delete your Twitter account on iOS & the web."
As many have commented under that article on FaceBook, regardless of the motivations of AppleInsider in publishing that article, it does come off as a "suggestion" rather than general help that countless people have been asking for. Disagree? Think I and others are misreading that article as being a "suggestion"? Consider this...
One would be blind or ignorant NOT to know of all the articles the tech media in general puts out every single day which bash Musk and Twitter in one way or another. It's largely negative, as if the tech media thought extremely well of Twitter prior to Musks purchase, but now despises Twitter mainly because of Musk and because of changes to Twitter that the tech media FEELS are not in the best interest of everyone. It's also easy to pile on the bashing when everyone else in your tech media industry is doing the same; and since Twitter and Musk aren't Apple, it's not like AppleInsider is speaking anything negative about the company we all know and love. So while bashing Apple on a site named AppleInsider would be taboo, not so of Twitter and Musk which aren't a part of Apple. It's gloves-off when it comes to Twitter!
When you as an AppleInsider or tech-media reader understand that generally NEGATIVE sentiment about Musk and Twitter very much exists, and then you come along and spot an article on one of your favorite Apple-focused news sources that is titled "How to delete your Twitter account on iOS & the web," it's pretty darned hard NOT to think of that being yet another article in a stream of others which take that same tired, negative narrative about Musk and Twitter.
It's not like the article says: "We like Twitter, but we realize some people don't, so here's how to delete your account." That would be more positive, upbeat, and would break with the generally negative narrative of the tech media. Such wording would establish an article about account deletion being more of a helpful FYI than a subtle suggestion. Sorry to say though, the opening paragraph in that article actually takes the negative tone I just referred to by saying: "Given how things are going on Twitter, and the options that have cropped up lately, folks are looking for the exit."
Wow. No wonder people like myself view the article as more of a suggestion than a mere FYI article which only resulted because of so many people asking for it!
Note the statement: "given how things are going."
Friends, how ARE things going? According to the tech media in general, as I just said, they would say things at Twitter are not going well. And yet, not all Twitter users take that stance. They view it more as a battle for the mind.
The topic of Twitter is as polarizing as the topic of politics in general in the USA today. Why? Because it is inseparably tied to politics! As such, articles written about Twitter need to take that into account, not with comment bans, but with a more neutral tone in article titles and wording.
The "given how things are going" statement reinforces why some of us spotted the article title, read the opening paragraph, and then began to think or say what many article commenters on FaceBook are saying (see my earlier post for two screenshot). Some of us just want the tech media to back off the Twitter/Musk negatively and complaining, and let change play itself out in a free market, capitalistic system.
If people jettison Twitter from their lives because they simply don't need it or dislike it, NOT because the tech media or TV news dislike Twitter and constantly influence them to dislike it, great! But who lives in a bubble, totally ignorant of tech media negativity about Twitter? If you like or dislike something based on suggestions you receive from the news media at large, rather than from personal experience, well, that is mainly on you; but the media who feed that info to us has a responsibility too.
In the end, if people dislike Twitter, they will leave it. But I contend they don't need to be subtly prodded to leave by "given how things are going" statements which exist as an indirect recommendation to Twitter users to consider deleting their Twitter account. What I have written in this thread merely takes issue with that, and as per comments we see on Facebook, I am not alone.
So much for the claim that you merely "poked fun at my lack of self-awareness" and you are a defender of "accurate information."
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Somewhere there is a timeline where we all exist without having any of this bullshit in our lives. Fuckers.
Threads is for unserious people to talk about unserious things
Bluesky is for serious people to talk about serious things
Twitter is for unserious people to talk about serious things
Mastodon is for serious people to talk about unserious things
What we really have here is Musk making claims sans any evidence.
I know you’ll delete this, and that’s OK. At least you will have read it.
I wish you all the best and hope for better days to come for AI.
And as to deleting accounts, I so no need. I have a Twitter account I only use a couple times a year to enter a giveaway. That's it. Interestingly, I won something in the past too. But despite my almost not needing Twitter at all, I see no need to waste my time deleting my account. Maybe it will interest me one day more than it does today. Even so, I wish Musk well. It is his baby now, after all. And the rest of the world who didn't put their money on the line or contribute to the creation of Twitter merely sit around complaining. Madness.
https://fortune.com/2015/09/03/koh-anti-poach-order/
https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/03/21/how-to-delete-your-facebook-account-completely-on-your-iphone-or-mac
https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/03/25/if-you-dont-want-to-delete-your-facebook-account-heres-how-to-cut-back
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/01/04/how-to-delete-an-apple-id-account
We're not really playing favorites here, guys. lol. That gold checkmark we have on Twitter costs us way more than I like.
The reasons we don't enable comments on our tips -- and haven't for years -- are entirely due to bandwidth. People naturally want to ask questions on them, and we don't have the manpower to have somebody go through them and answer. As you can see we clearly don't look at Facebook comments. There are not very many layers of abstraction here. There's like maybe three or four of us here that you could ever potentially get a response from, and we all do that as best-effort in our spare time. Right now me sitting here typing this is me typing this instead of working on a feature for the website.
That said, we are in the process of finding a community manager / social media person to help us because we understand that we have fumbled the ball a bit over the past few years. Our goal is to foster a healthy, mature, helpful, and inclusive community and we just haven't had the manpower. Maybe once our community manager is hired and on-boarded we will revisit allowing comments on articles with a more political slant, or on our tips when we know people won't just be sending questions into the void.
"On the contrary" indicates you disagree with me. So let's ponder what you wrote earlier in response to me...
"...having to listen to you complain that AppleInsider had the audacity to publish accurate information....... what exactly are you afraid of in this situation, why does knowledge frighten you?"
Go ahead and label your reply to me as merely "poking fun" if you will, but I view that as a thinly veiled complaint of me. And of course, I think it's rather crazy too because the "knowledge" you speak of is the heart of the matter. So let's dive deeper into "knowledge" and "accurate information," shall we?
My opening post on page 1 of this thread was about the OTHER related AppleInsider article, under which we are prohibited from posting comments (although FaceBook does allow them under that same article, funny as that is). The title of that other related article is "How to delete your Twitter account on iOS & the web."
As many have commented under that article on FaceBook, regardless of the motivations of AppleInsider in publishing that article, it does come off as a "suggestion" rather than general help that countless people have been asking for. Disagree? Think I and others are misreading that article as being a "suggestion"? Consider this...
One would be blind or ignorant NOT to know of all the articles the tech media in general puts out every single day which bash Musk and Twitter in one way or another. It's largely negative, as if the tech media thought extremely well of Twitter prior to Musks purchase, but now despises Twitter mainly because of Musk and because of changes to Twitter that the tech media FEELS are not in the best interest of everyone. It's also easy to pile on the bashing when everyone else in your tech media industry is doing the same; and since Twitter and Musk aren't Apple, it's not like AppleInsider is speaking anything negative about the company we all know and love. So while bashing Apple on a site named AppleInsider would be taboo, not so of Twitter and Musk which aren't a part of Apple. It's gloves-off when it comes to Twitter!
When you as an AppleInsider or tech-media reader understand that generally NEGATIVE sentiment about Musk and Twitter very much exists, and then you come along and spot an article on one of your favorite Apple-focused news sources that is titled "How to delete your Twitter account on iOS & the web," it's pretty darned hard NOT to think of that being yet another article in a stream of others which take that same tired, negative narrative about Musk and Twitter.
It's not like the article says: "We like Twitter, but we realize some people don't, so here's how to delete your account." That would be more positive, upbeat, and would break with the generally negative narrative of the tech media. Such wording would establish an article about account deletion being more of a helpful FYI than a subtle suggestion. Sorry to say though, the opening paragraph in that article actually takes the negative tone I just referred to by saying: "Given how things are going on Twitter, and the options that have cropped up lately, folks are looking for the exit."
Wow. No wonder people like myself view the article as more of a suggestion than a mere FYI article which only resulted because of so many people asking for it!
Note the statement: "given how things are going."
Friends, how ARE things going? According to the tech media in general, as I just said, they would say things at Twitter are not going well. And yet, not all Twitter users take that stance. They view it more as a battle for the mind.
The topic of Twitter is as polarizing as the topic of politics in general in the USA today. Why? Because it is inseparably tied to politics! As such, articles written about Twitter need to take that into account, not with comment bans, but with a more neutral tone in article titles and wording.
The "given how things are going" statement reinforces why some of us spotted the article title, read the opening paragraph, and then began to think or say what many article commenters on FaceBook are saying (see my earlier post for two screenshot). Some of us just want the tech media to back off the Twitter/Musk negatively and complaining, and let change play itself out in a free market, capitalistic system.
If people jettison Twitter from their lives because they simply don't need it or dislike it, NOT because the tech media or TV news dislike Twitter and constantly influence them to dislike it, great! But who lives in a bubble, totally ignorant of tech media negativity about Twitter? If you like or dislike something based on suggestions you receive from the news media at large, rather than from personal experience, well, that is mainly on you; but the media who feed that info to us has a responsibility too.
In the end, if people dislike Twitter, they will leave it. But I contend they don't need to be subtly prodded to leave by "given how things are going" statements which exist as an indirect recommendation to Twitter users to consider deleting their Twitter account. What I have written in this thread merely takes issue with that, and as per comments we see on Facebook, I am not alone.