iPhone 15 rumors: Thinner bezels, USB-C, and more expensive

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Thinner bezels, USB-C, and more Dynamic Island action are apparently on the way for this fall's iPhone 15 launches, as a report sums up many of the rumors about the inbound refresh.

Render of the iPhone 15 Pro
Render of the iPhone 15 Pro



As usual, Apple is expected to introduce a refreshed iPhone 15 family of smartphones in September. As is typical for the summer, the rumor mill heats up with even more speculation and various claims about the mobile devices, increasing in quantity as the time approaches.

In Sunday's "Power On" newsletter for Bloomberg, Mark Gurman sums up many of the rumors into a list of potential changes customers could find in the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro ranges.

For a start, Gurman covers how Apple will get to the "dream" iPhone with a bunch of display changes. For the iPhone 15 and Plus, the introduction of Dynamic Island will be the big change.

On the Pro side, he discusses the use of low-injection pressure over-molding (LIPO) to shrink the border around the display, which has appeared in other rumors. According to Gurman, the technique shrinks the border from 2.2mm to 1.5mm, and it may also arrive on the iPad in the future.

The non-Pro models will also get "major camera improvements" and gain the A16 from the Pro line. The Pro will shift to a 3-nanometer-based A17.

The camera changes can include updated lenses, sensors, and, on the Pro Max model, the use of a periscope lens.

The switch to USB-C from Lighting is also touted.

The Pro models were also apparently planned to have touch-sensitive buttons with haptic feedback, but that was scrapped in favor of standard volume and power controls. Instead, the mute-ring switch will become a customizable Action button.

While it all sounds plausible, there's no guarantee that everything will make it into the final product. No-one outside of Apple will truly know what the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro will look like until Apple makes its September presentation.

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  • Reply 1 of 30
    mayflymayfly Posts: 385member
    Let me get this straight. Apple removes a proprietary connector and replaces it with a cheaper industry standard that's made on a scale thousands of times larger than Lightning, but charges their customers more.

    Wish I'd thought of that! Wish Apple Jobs had thought of that 4 years ago. Is Lightning the last Apple-proprietary connector?
    edited July 2023
  • Reply 2 of 30
    XedXed Posts: 2,572member
    mayfly said:
    Let me get this straight. Apple removes a proprietary connector and replaces it with a cheaper industry standard that's made on a scale thousands of times larger than Lightning, but charges their customers more.

    Wish I'd thought of that! Wish Apple Jobs had thought of that 4 years ago. Is Lightning the last Apple-proprietary connector?
    1) That's if you assume that a price increase is for moving to USB-C and not, ya know, the several hundred other possible ways in which the device can incur a higher cost.

    2)  


    edit: To be more clear, I can think of two Apple connectors still being sold today on new products: the iPad Pro's Smart Connector, and the Mac notebook's MagSafe connector.
    edited July 2023 jbirdiikunM68000williamlondonbshankmayflyAlex1N
  • Reply 3 of 30
    harry wildharry wild Posts: 810member
    Colors are the most important feature!
    williamlondon
  • Reply 4 of 30
    jfabula1jfabula1 Posts: 138member
    I usually get the get the newest color…..then cover it w case…..kind of stupid 
    williamlondonAlex1Njeffharris
  • Reply 5 of 30
    wood1208wood1208 Posts: 2,913member
    jfabula1 said:
    I usually get the get the newest color…..then cover it w case…..kind of stupid 
    Get transparent case and show off your new iPhone 15 and it's new color. 
    williamlondonAlex1N
  • Reply 6 of 30
    jfabula1jfabula1 Posts: 138member
    wood1208 said:
    jfabula1 said:
    I usually get the get the newest color…..then cover it w case…..kind of stupid 
    Get transparent case and show off your new iPhone 15 and it's new color. 
    Agreed but I haven’t find a transparent case that never fades so far, I guess look further eh? Thanks
    williamlondon
  • Reply 7 of 30
    mayfly said:
    Let me get this straight. Apple removes a proprietary connector and replaces it with a cheaper industry standard that's made on a scale thousands of times larger than Lightning, but charges their customers more…
    From what earlier rumors suggest even though the port will be USB-C it will be governed by Apple electronics such that maximum charging and data exchange will only be possible with Apple or other MFi approved cables. So, in a sense it is still an Apple proprietary connector.
    mayflywilliamlondonAlex1N
  • Reply 8 of 30
    mayflymayfly Posts: 385member
    Xed said:
    mayfly said:
    Let me get this straight. Apple removes a proprietary connector and replaces it with a cheaper industry standard that's made on a scale thousands of times larger than Lightning, but charges their customers more.

    Wish I'd thought of that! Wish Apple Jobs had thought of that 4 years ago. Is Lightning the last Apple-proprietary connector?
    1) That's if you assume that a price increase is for moving to USB-C and not, ya know, the several hundred other possible ways in which the device can incur a higher cost.

    2)  


    edit: To be more clear, I can think of two Apple connectors still being sold today on new products: the iPad Pro's Smart Connector, and the Mac notebook's MagSafe connector.
    LOL Well, ya shot me in the foot real good there! I totally forgot the MagSafe, since I have the 13" MacBoook Air, and I've never even seen an iPad Pro! Probably time to say Sayonara to them, too!

    I thought about the improvements adding cost, but then I remembered Moore's Law: "Moore's Law states that the number of transistors on a microchip doubles every two years. The law claims that we can expect the speed and capability of our computers to increase every two years because of this, yet we will pay less for them." So far, that has been pretty consistent.
    Alex1N
  • Reply 9 of 30
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 842member
    I hope reality is better than the rumors. It certainly can't be any worse. This is shaping up to be the most skippable Pro upgrade ever. I mean, when two of the "headline" upgrades are a bezel that's been narrowed by seven-tenths of a millimeter and the adoption of USB-C that has been an industry standard for a while, there REALLY must be nothing to talk about. I'm sure Apple will go heavy on the tech porn in describing the new A17 chip, but to what end other than the marketing need for something new? Anybody finding that their iPhone 14 Pro is just running too slow? I didn't think so. Like the iPad Pro lineup, the iPhone Pro is overloaded with computing horsepower that is beyond what it requires. 

    I tend to think Apple will bump prices by $100 for each model, which may well become the most signficant headline "upgrade" for the iPhone 15 Pro. They'd be smarter to hold off til next year when we'll supposedly see a design refresh--at least then, the price increase won't be the only thing to talk about. 
    edited July 2023 williamlondonAlex1N
  • Reply 10 of 30
    I’ve still got my iPhone 12 Pro Max. Just no real reason to upgrade since these are just small updates. When is apple going to reinvent the phone? The last few years the iPhone has been boring 
    williamlondon
  • Reply 11 of 30
    nubusnubus Posts: 386member
    charlesn said:
    This is shaping up to be the most skippable Pro upgrade ever. I mean, when two of the "headline" upgrades are a bezel that's been narrowed by seven-tenths of a millimeter and the adoption of USB-C that has been an industry standard for a while, there REALLY must be nothing to talk about. I'm sure Apple will go heavy on the tech porn in describing the new A17 chip, but to what end other than the marketing need for something new? 
    Pro is like the Burberry tote in Succession. It will get a new design indicating that you have the latest and can afford the most expensive. It will come with Wifi 6E - same speed as 6 that will require new routers. USB C will be fast for data transfers... that aren't used. Don't worry about it.
    williamlondonAlex1Nbeowulfschmidt
  • Reply 12 of 30
    I’ve still got my iPhone 12 Pro Max. Just no real reason to upgrade since these are just small updates. When is apple going to reinvent the phone? The last few years the iPhone has been boring 
    What, to toast bread? It's a mature product category, it doesn't need to be "reinvented" every year, ffs. How about some realistic expectations?
    Alex1N
  • Reply 13 of 30
    M68000M68000 Posts: 728member
    charlesn said:
    I hope reality is better than the rumors. It certainly can't be any worse. This is shaping up to be the most skippable Pro upgrade ever. I mean, when two of the "headline" upgrades are a bezel that's been narrowed by seven-tenths of a millimeter and the adoption of USB-C that has been an industry standard for a while, there REALLY must be nothing to talk about. I'm sure Apple will go heavy on the tech porn in describing the new A17 chip, but to what end other than the marketing need for something new? Anybody finding that their iPhone 14 Pro is just running too slow? I didn't think so. Like the iPad Pro lineup, the iPhone Pro is overloaded with computing horsepower that is beyond what it requires. 

    I tend to think Apple will bump prices by $100 for each model, which may well become the most signficant headline "upgrade" for the iPhone 15 Pro. They'd be smarter to hold off til next year when we'll supposedly see a design refresh--at least then, the price increase won't be the only thing to talk about. 
    To somebody coming from an iphone 8 or 8 plus this is a huge step up, did you think of that?  Should Apple do new phones every 2 or 3 years and really build up the suspense?  The phones are now a mature product,  how much can change in a year?  Having a stable product is more important to me.  I’m curious if titanium rumor is true and how much it helps with less weight. 
    Alex1Nwilliamlondon
  • Reply 14 of 30
    XedXed Posts: 2,572member
    mayfly said:
    Xed said:
    mayfly said:
    Let me get this straight. Apple removes a proprietary connector and replaces it with a cheaper industry standard that's made on a scale thousands of times larger than Lightning, but charges their customers more.

    Wish I'd thought of that! Wish Apple Jobs had thought of that 4 years ago. Is Lightning the last Apple-proprietary connector?
    1) That's if you assume that a price increase is for moving to USB-C and not, ya know, the several hundred other possible ways in which the device can incur a higher cost.

    2)  


    edit: To be more clear, I can think of two Apple connectors still being sold today on new products: the iPad Pro's Smart Connector, and the Mac notebook's MagSafe connector.
    I thought about the improvements adding cost, but then I remembered Moore's Law: "Moore's Law states that the number of transistors on a microchip doubles every two years. The law claims that we can expect the speed and capability of our computers to increase every two years because of this, yet we will pay less for them." So far, that has been pretty consistent.
    Even if Moore’s Law was still relevant today, it would have no relevance in regards to the entire product being made as it contains a lot more than a node reduction which previously allowed for twice as many transitions in a given space.

    Even if we do look at transistors, we see that Apple’s SoCs keep getting larger with more  transistors. I don’t think Gordon Moore could’ve imagined a 3nm process and how specialized and fast microchips would become. I seem to recall the fear by industry experts that we were reaching a limit of how small the node process could become. I think it was 130 or 90nm people were worried that we had reached the end. Human innovation and adaptation is an amazing thing.
    edited July 2023 Alex1Nwilliamlondon
  • Reply 15 of 30
    M68000M68000 Posts: 728member
    There are other forums with people saying how important sim cards are to them.  They are saying they won’t buy the new model if it is esim only.  In places outside the US, having a sim card is really important for travel and most affordable way too.  It could be interesting how important this is and if it affects sales.  Is Apple making a mistake getting rid of sim cards? 
  • Reply 16 of 30
    mayflymayfly Posts: 385member
    Xed said:
    mayfly said:
    Xed said:
    mayfly said:
    Let me get this straight. Apple removes a proprietary connector and replaces it with a cheaper industry standard that's made on a scale thousands of times larger than Lightning, but charges their customers more.

    Wish I'd thought of that! Wish Apple Jobs had thought of that 4 years ago. Is Lightning the last Apple-proprietary connector?
    1) That's if you assume that a price increase is for moving to USB-C and not, ya know, the several hundred other possible ways in which the device can incur a higher cost.

    2)  


    edit: To be more clear, I can think of two Apple connectors still being sold today on new products: the iPad Pro's Smart Connector, and the Mac notebook's MagSafe connector.
    I thought about the improvements adding cost, but then I remembered Moore's Law: "Moore's Law states that the number of transistors on a microchip doubles every two years. The law claims that we can expect the speed and capability of our computers to increase every two years because of this, yet we will pay less for them." So far, that has been pretty consistent.
    Even if Moore’s Law was still relevant today, it would have no relevance in regards to the entire product being made as it contains a lot more than a node reduction which previously allowed for twice as many transitions in a given space.

    Even if we do look at transistors, we see that Apple’s SoCs keep getting larger with more  transistors. I don’t think Gordon Moore could’ve imagined a 3nm process and how specialized and fast microchips would become. I seem to recall the fear by industry experts that we were reaching a limit of how small the node process could become. I think it was 130 or 90nm people were worried that we had reached the end. Human innovation and adaptation is an amazing thing.
    Good points, every one. But recent history tells us that Moore's law still holds. And you can be sure that 10-15 years from now, that theoretical limit of 3nm will either be breached, or a new paradigm in computing will emerge, that will make the iPhone 15 Pro like an original iPhone by comparison. Remember, that was only 13 years ago! Photonic computing is just one speculative technology, that could theoretically process at the speed of light. There are many others being researched. At some point there will be a phone with no screen at all, just a heads-up display that projects a 3D hologram in the air.
  • Reply 17 of 30
    dutchlorddutchlord Posts: 214member
    See no compelling reasons to buy one to be honnest.
    mayflywilliamlondon
  • Reply 18 of 30
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 842member
    nubus said:
    charlesn said:
    This is shaping up to be the most skippable Pro upgrade ever. I mean, when two of the "headline" upgrades are a bezel that's been narrowed by seven-tenths of a millimeter and the adoption of USB-C that has been an industry standard for a while, there REALLY must be nothing to talk about. I'm sure Apple will go heavy on the tech porn in describing the new A17 chip, but to what end other than the marketing need for something new? 
    Pro is like the Burberry tote in Succession. It will get a new design indicating that you have the latest and can afford the most expensive. It will come with Wifi 6E - same speed as 6 that will require new routers. USB C will be fast for data transfers... that aren't used. Don't worry about it.
    Wow, you don't know much, do you? No new design for the 15. In fact, Apple as a general rule doesn't update its designs all that frequently. So if you're looking for "the latest design" for some sort of status-signaling, don't look to Apple for that. As for 6E: you don't need a whole new router, you can add 6E capability to an existing 6 router. It's not free, but MUCH cheaper than a whole new router. 6E is huge for people in crowded wifi environments since it opens a whole new "lane" for 6E traffic exclusively. It's also worth noting that Wifi 7 routers are already out, though lacking in clients at the moment. As for fast data transfers that "aren't used" -- you obviously haven't tried downloading 4K video files or a large batch of high rez photo files (esp at 48MP) from an iPhone Pro over the Lightning connector. It is painfully slow. And since the video and still camera capabilities of the iPhone Pros are increasingly used by working professionals in the video and photography fields, a faster connection is essential. Thunderbolt speed would be very useful, welcome and appropriate for the Pro models. 
    williamlondon
  • Reply 19 of 30
    longfanglongfang Posts: 459member
    mayfly said:
    Let me get this straight. Apple removes a proprietary connector and replaces it with a cheaper industry standard that's made on a scale thousands of times larger than Lightning, but charges their customers more.

    Wish I'd thought of that! Wish Apple Jobs had thought of that 4 years ago. Is Lightning the last Apple-proprietary connector?
    Gee it’s almost as if pricing decisions are based on what the market will bear.
    williamlondon
  • Reply 20 of 30
    jfabula1 said:
    wood1208 said:
    jfabula1 said:
    I usually get the get the newest color…..then cover it w case…..kind of stupid 
    Get transparent case and show off your new iPhone 15 and it's new color. 
    Agreed but I haven’t find a transparent case that never fades so far, I guess look further eh? Thanks
    Try Incipio. They make some great cases!
    williamlondon
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