Cameras on iPhone 16 Pro Max are fourth-best in the world

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The camera system in the iPhone 16 Pro Max is the fourth-best of its kind in the world, but it manages to top the list when it comes to video capabilities.

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The cameras of the iPhone 16 Pro models



Following the release of the iPhone 16 generation, testing on its various features and components have commenced. In one of the more important tests it could undertake, the iPhone 16 Pro Max's camera has been given a great set of results.

According to Monday's testing by DxOMark, the iPhone 16 Pro Max has scored 157 points overall, giving it a global ranking of fourth place. It lags behind the Huawei Pura 70 Ultra (163), the Google Pixel 9 Pro XL (158), and the Honor Magic6 Pro (158).

Its fourth-place ranking for the global table is matched by its fourth-place result for the Ultra-Premium ranking, for devices valued at more than $800.

In terms of smaller categories, the iPhone 16 Pro Max acieved 159, the top score, for video. It "delivered exceptional results," with consistent exposure and color accuracy across a range of conditions, and it had the best texture-noise trade-off of any device the testers had seen to date.

Its video features aimed at professionals also impressed, including ProRes profiles in Log and HDR modes, and the new 4K120fps mode.

As well as its "class-leading overall video quality," praise was also given to its color performance for images using an "extensive range of bright and vivid hues" and customizable image color options. The wide array of editing options, "extremely accurate image preview," and zero shutter lag were also welcomed.

The only "con" in the results relates to the zoom function, which now uses the Tetraprism lens system to increase its magnification. The results determined there were inconsistencies between the 2x range and 5x range, with images "losing some detail."

This may be due to the fact that it is two different sensors in use for each point of the range. At 2x, it's actually using a 12MP crop of the 48MP Fusion camera, while 5x is using the Telephoto version.


The DXO results are a continuation of the high scores Apple's camera system typically receives for its new mobile devices. For 2023, the iPhone 15 Pro Max had the second-best camera system in the world, with a score of 154 points.



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  • Reply 1 of 19
    DAalsethDAalseth Posts: 2,972member
    the iPhone 16 Pro Max's camera has been given a great set of results
    Fourth is not a great set of results. Being not as good as Google, or Huawei, and Honor (whoever THAT is) is not a great result. Sure they are close, but there was a time when Apple’s cell phone cameras were head and shoulders above the rest. Now they are mid pack. 
    sflagelgrandact73pulseimageszeus423
  • Reply 2 of 19
    Yeah, sure. And this matters how?

    No one makes a living from test charts.

    Regarding smartphone cameras:

    They all suck the same.
  • Reply 3 of 19
    These scores are incredibly close. If this was a CPU benchmark I think the top four would be characterized as tied. Of course it’s not a CPU benchmark, and I’m not really sure how to interpret the numbers. But I’d be surprised if there’s a real world difference.

    im wondering how the iPhone compares in “camera” features beyond image quality because those also matter. Is there any lag between taking a picture and then taking another? How do the camera apps compare in terms of features and ease of use? 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 19
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 7,972member
    DAalseth said:
    the iPhone 16 Pro Max's camera has been given a great set of results
    Fourth is not a great set of results. Being not as good as Google, or Huawei, and Honor (whoever THAT is) is not a great result. Sure they are close, but there was a time when Apple’s cell phone cameras were head and shoulders above the rest. Now they are mid pack. 
    The time when Apple's cameras were head and shoulders above the rest was a very long time ago. Save four video of course. 

    Over the last couple of years there have been welcome improvements from Apple except for the year they finally upgraded the sensors and then the computational side needed tweaking to get things back into sync.

    HONOR was Huawei's 'low cost' subsidiary until it was spun off as an independent entity and now its own range of premium phones. It has Huawei's pedigree in imaging.

    The Huawei Mate 70 series will be released before the end of the year and is rumoured to come with a new sensor and imaging capabilities. That will be followed early next year by the following P series flagships (which are photography focused) and of course two new Honor flagships.

    Competition is tough in smartphone photography but most output from even midrange phones is great for most people. 

    ctt_zhdewme
  • Reply 5 of 19
    mike1mike1 Posts: 3,409member
    Been looking at their scores for years. First started with SLR cameras and lenses. The testing protocols are very robust and repeatable with both objective and subjective interpretations.

    In my case, the one thing that has always been my highest priority is color accuracy, including skin tones. This is where I have felt that iPhones always shined and it received the highest score in this category.
    sflageldewmewatto_cobra
  • Reply 6 of 19
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,598member
    mike1 said:
    In my case, the one thing that has always been my highest priority is color accuracy, including skin tones. This is where I have felt that iPhones always shined and it received the highest score in this category.
    While Apple has long been excellent with overall color, traditionally iPhone photo processing algorithms have not properly rendered accurate skin tones unless the subject was a Caucasian. Other cameras, one example being the Pixels, have been doing noticeably better the past few years. Did that change with the series 16? I hadn't seen that particular test yet. 
    edited September 23 sflagelctt_zhdewme
  • Reply 7 of 19
    Nothing to be proud of, son. Nothing to be proud of. 

    But then again, does it really matter at this level? They are all great smartphone cameras, and they all suck as cameras. 

    It’s like comparing First Class flying. Yes there are differences but it’s still overall a sad experience; compared to private. 
    edited September 23 DAalseth
  • Reply 8 of 19
    Thank you for this review...

    As I feared:

    "Despite a nominally higher 48MP pixel count on the ultra-wide camera, our testers could not observe any improvements in detail, neither in the lab nor in real-life scenes, at ultra-wide settings"

    I guess I'll be waiting another year, sigh...
    ITGUYINSDgrandact73watto_cobra
  • Reply 9 of 19
    DAalsethDAalseth Posts: 2,972member
    avon b7 said:
    DAalseth said:
    the iPhone 16 Pro Max's camera has been given a great set of results
    Fourth is not a great set of results. Being not as good as Google, or Huawei, and Honor (whoever THAT is) is not a great result. Sure they are close, but there was a time when Apple’s cell phone cameras were head and shoulders above the rest. Now they are mid pack. 
    Competition is tough in smartphone photography but most output from even midrange phones is great for most people. 
    Very true, indeed over on CoM there’s an article that is saying to save money, skip the Pro models because the regular iPhone 16s are just about as good. They are specifically calling out the camera. The 5x is fine if you really need that, but for most people the regular does everything you want. https://www.cultofmac.com/reviews/iphone-16-review-plus-comparison-pro
    sflagelctt_zhgatorguy
  • Reply 10 of 19
    DAalseth said:
    the iPhone 16 Pro Max's camera has been given a great set of results
    Fourth is not a great set of results. Being not as good as Google, or Huawei, and Honor (whoever THAT is) is not a great result. Sure they are close, but there was a time when Apple’s cell phone cameras were head and shoulders above the rest. Now they are mid pack. 
    Given that there are over 200 phones in the ranking I think you might want to look up the meaning of "mid pack".
    sflagelsbdudemike1dewmeblastdoor
  • Reply 11 of 19
    auxioauxio Posts: 2,754member
    avon b7 said:

    Competition is tough in smartphone photography but most output from even midrange phones is great for most people. 
    Exactly this. Looking through my photo library over the years, today's smartphone pictures are much much better than they used to be. If I needed professional photos of something, I'd either hire a photographer or get a high quality camera since no smartphone can achieve the same quality. For everything else, the vast majority of today's smartphones are just fine.
  • Reply 12 of 19
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,284member
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqls57qYEYI OK DxOMark

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgeJ0XYuI2E 5:50 DXOMARK will work with the manufacturer to do better on their test if you need a little coaching. Stick to judging whether or not you’re gonna buy a certain smartphone, by it’s overall performance as a smartphone. 
  • Reply 13 of 19
    DAalseth said:
    the iPhone 16 Pro Max's camera has been given a great set of results
    Fourth is not a great set of results. Being not as good as Google, or Huawei, and Honor (whoever THAT is) is not a great result. Sure they are close, but there was a time when Apple’s cell phone cameras were head and shoulders above the rest. Now they are mid pack. 
    Given that there are over 200 phones in the ranking I think you might want to look up the meaning of "mid pack".

    Perhaps there were 192 ties for fourth place? :p
    DAalsethavon b7blastdoor
  • Reply 14 of 19
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,070member
    DAalseth said:
    the iPhone 16 Pro Max's camera has been given a great set of results
    Fourth is not a great set of results. Being not as good as Google, or Huawei, and Honor (whoever THAT is) is not a great result. Sure they are close, but there was a time when Apple’s cell phone cameras were head and shoulders above the rest. Now they are mid pack. 
    Oh, puh-leez. There is a fair amount of subjective judgement in a camera test like this, and a second highest score of 158 vs 157 for the iPhone isn't a difference that makes any difference at all. In fact, there was only a TWO point difference between the #2 phone and the #7 phone: 158 vs 156. There was a little bit more daylight between the #2 phone and the 163 points scored by Huawei to take the top spot, but then again: the Huawei phone costs a whopping 36% more than the Pixel 9 Pro XL and 25% more than the iPhone 16 Pro Max, which seems like a awful lot to pay for a 3%-4% better camera score.

    The real takeaway from this test isn't the rankings, it's the obvious conclusion that all the top smartphone cameras are now very competitive, with any notion of "best" being mostly subjective. And, as we see with Huawei, even meager gains over the competition now come at a very high cost. In my opinion, the main quality issue facing the iPhone Pro cameras now was triggered by the change from a 77mm 3x telephoto lens to the 120mm 5x telephoto. This has left the 24mm main (wide) lens with the job of covering the whole 24mm-119mm range with sensor cropping and computational software tricks, and the results aren't great. In the 77mm-119mm range, which is highly used in general photography, the 15 Pro Max and now both 16 Pro models generate objectively provable worse photos than those taken with the old 77mm telephoto lens. 

    If you know anything about lenses, this is hardly a surprise, Even with a true optical zoom lens of high quality, a 5-to1 zoom range of 24-120mm is going to involve some tradeoffs in image quality vs fixed focal length lenses or a zoom with a more limited range, like a 24-70 or 24-85. But it's so much worse with iPhone because all three lenses are fixed focal lengths and there is no true optical zooming at all--you're getting a 5-to-1 range out of a 24mm lens strictly from "digital" zoom via sensor cropping and computational software, and it shows up inevitably as inferior image quality.
    edited September 23 dewmepslicemuthuk_vanalingamblastdoorspliff monkey
  • Reply 15 of 19
    dewmedewme Posts: 5,677member
    The iPhone 4s was the first iPhone that made carrying a point & shoot camera superfluous for me. It's only gotten better from there. Every single iPhone I've had since, and even the iPhone 4s, exceeded my abilities as a picture taker, i.e., non photographer.  I've mainly upgraded for performance, storage, battery life, and big beautiful screen reasons. Camera, not so much, even though I do a lot of picture taking. A one-point difference between the latest iPhone and its closest competitors is way way down on my dontgiveashitaboutit meter. Does not even register as noise.

    But if a one-point deficit bothers some folks ... there's always next year. Hey, maybe Apple will sneak out some computational processing tweaks over the next year to ease the pain, maybe pull in another point. Everything is going to be okay. Switching to an Android smartphone may get put you up a point on the camera side, but you may be punished in so may other ways everywhere else.
    pslicediman80
  • Reply 16 of 19
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,070member

    Regarding smartphone cameras:

    They all suck the same.
    I assume you've never worked with professional photography equipment because if you've lugged around the likes of a Nikon D6 and Nikkor's largest aperture pro lenses, you fully appreciate that what the best smartphone cameras are accomplishing in a tiny micro-fraction of the size and weight is nothing short of miraculous. Of course it's not equivalent to pro equipment, but the level of quality and hardware sophistication is far beyond what would seem possible in a package that small. I regularly print iPhone photos at 13x19 at home, or I send them out for larger sizes. Generally, no one can believe they were shot on a phone until I show them the original image on my phone. 
    blastdoor
  • Reply 17 of 19
    Who trusts Dxomarks anyway? They have no rating standard.
  • Reply 18 of 19
    But iPhone Price is best in the World…at least something😌
  • Reply 19 of 19
    charlesn said:

    Regarding smartphone cameras:

    They all suck the same.
    I assume you've never worked with professional photography equipment because if you've lugged around the likes of a Nikon D6 and Nikkor's largest aperture pro lenses, you fully appreciate that what the best smartphone cameras are accomplishing in a tiny micro-fraction of the size and weight is nothing short of miraculous. Of course it's not equivalent to pro equipment, but the level of quality and hardware sophistication is far beyond what would seem possible in a package that small. I regularly print iPhone photos at 13x19 at home, or I send them out for larger sizes. Generally, no one can believe they were shot on a phone until I show them the original image on my phone. 

    You can achieve great, even amazing, results with an iPhone—there’s no doubt about that. However, with a non-smartphone camera, you can achieve things that no smartphone can come close to. In some ways, top smartphones excel, but in others, they all fall short. It depends on your use cases and what you want from a camera.

    edited September 25
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