M1 iMacs failing with dark horizontal lines on screen

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An unknown but growing number of iMac users are reporting display failures on their M1 iMacs, typically around two years after purchase.

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Apple's 24-inch M1 iMac



Apple has had screen issues of various types before, and it's perhaps not surprising given the complexity of displays. But this new one has the extra sting that it appears to be mostly happening after the iMac is out of warranty.

The first reports, as spotted by Tom's Hardware, came in October 2023.

"Persistent horizontal lines appear on the screen [of a 24-inch iMac], which significantly hampers the usability and visual appeal of the device," wrote user latVm on Apple's discussion forum. "This problem arises without any physical damage, and despite the stationary nature of the device."

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An example of the horizontal lines fault (Source: user latVm on Apple's discussion boards)



The reports of similar failures have continued, and it appears that users have been advised to pay for a screen replacement. One user who was told the same thing by Apple, claims to have taken his or her M1 iMac to a technician who subsequently puts the blame on a cable.

"The problem, apparently, lies in a cable that also powers the LCD, which is located on one of the tops of the screen," wrote user Jotap62, "and which, in order to be replaced, requires detaching the screen glass from the LCD itself, which is a very sensitive operation and almost impossible to carry out without damaging the LCD."

Reportedly, the cable "has to sustain a very high voltage (around 50V) to power the LCD," and after around two years, "it starts to burn out."

Apple does not include the iMac in its online repair cost estimator. Multiple affected users, however, have said they've been quoted between $650 and $700, which is around half the price of a new base model iMac.

If it's correct that the issue typically occurs after two years, it is out of Apple's regular warranty, but within the initial three years of AppleCare.

Beyond reported advice to users, Apple has not commented publicly on the issue.



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  • Reply 1 of 16
    saareksaarek Posts: 1,612member
    Sounds like a typical Apple issue. For the amount of profit they make you’d figure they’d invest in better cables by now.

    Hopefully enough people will be impacted so as to cause a world wide repair programme. Apple won’t do the right thing here without being forced into it.
    avon b7ctt_zhwilliamlondonAlex1N
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  • Reply 2 of 16
    jas99jas99 Posts: 185member
    saarek said:
    Sounds like a typical Apple issue. For the amount of profit they make you’d figure they’d invest in better cables by now.

    Hopefully enough people will be impacted so as to cause a world wide repair programme. Apple won’t do the right thing here without being forced into it.
    Typical? Really?

    No. This is highly unusual. 

    Apple devices are famous for their long life and durability. 

    Typically you buy a new Mac because you want to, not because you have to. 
    williamlondon9secondkox2Alex1Ndewmebaconstangwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 3 of 16
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 8,228member
    iMacs and graphics/display issues are a common problem. Overall design is another problem in terms of repairability.

    When my old iMac 27 2009 i7 - Radeon graphics card slow baked itself to death I was astonished by the amount of people who had the same problem. Apple never officially admitted to any issue.

    That was because of poor thermals and the 'hidden' vent panel that was always going to get clogged with dust at some point. 

    No more iMacs for me after that point. 

    Then there was the short cable connection to the display on some laptops for which Apple redesigned the cable (making it longer) but then only issued a repair programme for some (not all of the affected models).

    As for design in terms of repairability, it was absolutely crazy to require a a complete screen disassembly just to replace a hard disk on that 2009 iMac. 
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  • Reply 4 of 16
    saareksaarek Posts: 1,612member
    jas99 said:
    saarek said:
    Sounds like a typical Apple issue. For the amount of profit they make you’d figure they’d invest in better cables by now.

    Hopefully enough people will be impacted so as to cause a world wide repair programme. Apple won’t do the right thing here without being forced into it.
    Typical? Really?

    No. This is highly unusual. 

    Apple devices are famous for their long life and durability. 

    Typically you buy a new Mac because you want to, not because you have to. 

    Either you've not been buying Apple devices for long, or you've just been incredibly lucky!

    I had the well known issue with the weak back-light flex cable on my MacBook Pro. I'm pretty sure that one got the fun name of "flexgate". I had a similar issue with my 2004 PowerBook G4 (yep, I've been buying Apple products for decades). My 2010 iMac had to have a replacement LVDS cable, apparently they get over-warm and eventually fail.

    Seriously, just do a quick google session and you'll find a myriad of issues with Apple and cheap arse cables.
    ctt_zhwilliamlondonAlex1Nmichelb76
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  • Reply 5 of 16
    Yucamyucam Posts: 24member
    saarek said:
    Sounds like a typical Apple issue. For the amount of profit they make you’d figure they’d invest in better cables by now.

    Hopefully enough people will be impacted so as to cause a world wide repair programme. Apple won’t do the right thing here without being forced into it.
    Yes, typical. My Macbook Pro 16 M1 committed suicide right after the warranty had expired. Went to Apple iCare Shop (here called iDont Care) and they told me straight to the face, that I ( the little stinky stupid Apple Sheep) has to buy a new one at full price! No mercy …
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  • Reply 6 of 16
    50 volts = “a very high voltage”!? 🤣 that’s the same as an old school phone line.
    elijahgbaconstang
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  • Reply 7 of 16
    elijahgelijahg Posts: 2,889member
    jas99 said:
    saarek said:
    Sounds like a typical Apple issue. For the amount of profit they make you’d figure they’d invest in better cables by now.

    Hopefully enough people will be impacted so as to cause a world wide repair programme. Apple won’t do the right thing here without being forced into it.
    Typical? Really?

    No. This is highly unusual. 

    Apple devices are famous for their long life and durability. 

    Typically you buy a new Mac because you want to, not because you have to. 
    I had my Mac Pro's power supply fail, then the logic board failed after roughly 5 years. I had a Core 2 iMac fail with vertical lines on the screen after about 4 years. My 2019 i9 iMac's CPU or logic board failed. The battery in my 2010 Macbook Pro turned into a spicy pillow. So yeah, Mac reliability is not amazing. Still, better than my work Dell which is on motherboard number 3 in 2 years.
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  • Reply 8 of 16
    are studio displays safe? they are fairly similar
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 9 of 16
    Even before apple or dell were selling equipment, the highest repaired/replaced items in corporate IT departments were printers and displays.  Apparently, that is still true.  Disk drives and DVDs/CDs were also high on the frequent repair list.  
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 10 of 16
    The argument can be made that smaller tech “needs” to be glued together, and accessed solely by removing the screen, for the sake of space constraints or water resistance. But for a screen that is designed to just sit on a desk and never go anywhere, there really is no excuse as to why there either isn’t an access panel or a series or screws or latches to allow relative ease in detaching the screen panel for repair work. It would make this repair in the sub $50 range if they were the case. 
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 11 of 16

    Reportedly, the cable "has to sustain a very high voltage (around 50V) to power the LCD," and after around two years, "it starts to burn out."

    LOL...50 volts to power an LCD? That's definitely not correct information. 
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 12 of 16
    Luckily at least in the EU there is a mandatory 3 year warranty, so long as there is no damage on the unit.
    avon b7
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  • Reply 13 of 16
    elijahgelijahg Posts: 2,889member

    Reportedly, the cable "has to sustain a very high voltage (around 50V) to power the LCD," and after around two years, "it starts to burn out."

    LOL...50 volts to power an LCD? That's definitely not correct information. 
    LOL, you might want to check your facts before blurting lest you make yourself look silly. The LEDs in LCDs are often in series to reduce the current requirement, sometimes requiring 50v+.

    That said, I think this is rubbish anyway. Only the LEDs would require 50v, and generally the LED power would be across a normal wire (rather than a FPC cable used for signal) whose voltage limit would be much higher than 50v. If a cable was going to "burn out" it would have done so long before 4 years. Even if it was a FPC cable, it's unlikely Apple designed it under-spec, these limits have been well known for a very long time. If it was LED power failing to a specific group of LEDs then the banding would be faded at the edges, not sharp as it is.

    If the power to the LCD panel itself was failing, the whole panel would just go out. There wouldn't be sections like this. Looks like delamination of the FPC cable to the screen or a failing driver unit at the LCD edge to me.

    Also @AI when are you going to fix this awful forum software so it doesn't keep eating people's replies?
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  • Reply 14 of 16
    elijahg said: LOL, you might want to check your facts before blurting lest you make yourself look silly. The LEDs in LCDs are often in series to reduce the current requirement, sometimes requiring 50v+.
    Baloney. A 32 inch might use 24V max and the 2021 iMac is only 24 inches. 
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 15 of 16
    CaptainQ said:
    are studio displays safe? they are fairly similar
    Good question. I had problems with my old 2011 Thunderbolt Display back in the day, and I own the current 27 inch Studio Display. I purchased the yearly $49.99 AppleCare plan for it because of the past issues with Apple's displays. Totally worth it, in my opinion
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 16 of 16
    Let’s come together and make our voices heard. As someone dealing with the frustrating M1 iMac screen defect, I know how isolating it can feel. I’ve created a petition to ask Apple to take responsibility and cover repair costs for all of us affected. Your support means a lot—please sign and share: https://chng.it/rBPQMhF9VV.

    Let’s show Apple we deserve better.
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