Apple takes a three-day week for its Mac launches

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Take the rest of the week off -- as Apple is. The promised week of announcements turned out to be three days, as Apple confirms there are no more products to reveal.

A person in a burgundy shirt smiling near a small, modern device with a sleek, metallic design. The background shows a futuristic building and blue sky.
John Ternus with the small Mac mini, which wasn't the only thing shorter than expected



It was Greg Joswiak, Apple's senior vice president of worldwide marketing, who told us to "Mac" our calendars for "an exciting week of announcements." True, it would have been less of a snappy line if he'd also wedged in the words, "on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday."

But he could have just said that there were to be exciting Mac announcements "next week." Instead, the suggestion was a week of announcements, and the reality was three.

Those three began with the iMac, which externally is identical to the last version. It ended with the MacBook Pro, which is close to identical externally to its predecessor.

In the middle was the big news of the "week," the redesigned Mac mini. Dramatically that should have been the last reveal, but the MacBook Pro is the firm's big seller, so it got the finale. On Wednesday.

If you're thinking that there could still be two more announcements, two that are somehow Mac-related without being new Macs, you're right. There's even the fact that we now know that Final Cut Pro is about to be updated with AI features, if not necessarily Apple Intelligence ones.

Except Final Cut Pro is surely a product. And we dp now specifically know that the product launches are over for the week.

"I'm glad you could join us for the last day of exciting product announcements for the Mac," John Ternus, senior vice president hardware engineering, says at the start of the MacBook Pro launch video.



Apple doesn't only make products, of course, as it ever increasingly making services. It's hard to think of any Apple Services that are specific to the Mac, however.

There is definitely one Mac service. But Apple is going to get some funny looks if it tries continuing the "exciting week" with an update to AppleCare.

Unless, of course, Apple is going to announce something new like a Mac Upgrade Program.

That would still leave one more day to fill. Doesn't look like it, though.



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  • Reply 1 of 13
    mpantonempantone Posts: 2,401member
    Tomorrow’s earnings announcement will be the fourth announcement. While not a product launch it most certainly is an announcement. Joswiak did not specify that these announcements were all product related.

    As for Friday, who know? Maybe they will reduce trade-in value on several products or increase the subscription price of Apple Music. Lol

    Friday is the best day to announce unpopular news.

     :p 
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  • Reply 2 of 13
    WHY DO WE THINK THEY DID NOT UPDATE MAC STUDIO FROM M2?

    I’m not disappointed having purchased Studio M2 Max on launch day, but it does not seem hard to refresh Studio to M4 and compete with Apple Silicon in latest Macs released this week.
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  • Reply 3 of 13
    mpantonempantone Posts: 2,401member
    egold44 said:
    WHY DO WE THINK THEY DID NOT UPDATE MAC STUDIO FROM M2?

    I’m not disappointed having purchased Studio M2 Max on launch day, but it does not seem hard to refresh Studio to M4 and compete with Apple Silicon in latest Macs released this week.
    Most likely M14 Ultra is not ready. Apple will likely launch the next generation Mac Studio when both the Max and Ultra variants are ready. When that will occur only Apple knows but my guess is it might be a WWDC 2025 announcement (June next year).

    It is crystal clear that Apple engineering (both software and hardware) does not have the bandwidth to launch all four SoC variants simultaneously.
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  • Reply 4 of 13
    Bummer. Was expecting m4 Ultra tomorrow. 

    So now the theory seems even more plausible. No more Mac updates until wwdc  m5 intro. Likely 32” imac return. 

    The mini will pair with current studio display. Consumer iMac will stay the same. Mac Pro with m5 ultra/extreme will have a new 8k Pro Display XDR. iMac 32” with m5 max/ultra will be 6k resolution.  M5 based Notebooks will be similar to current. Would make a pretty much perfect lineup. 
    edited October 2024
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  • Reply 5 of 13
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,171member
    egold44 said:
    WHY DO WE THINK THEY DID NOT UPDATE MAC STUDIO FROM M2?

    I’m not disappointed having purchased Studio M2 Max on launch day, but it does not seem hard to refresh Studio to M4 and compete with Apple Silicon in latest Macs released this week.
    “it does not seem hard”

    Everything seems easy when you’re not aware of the challenges and constraints. Don’t give into the dunning kruger effect man  
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  • Reply 6 of 13
    mpantonempantone Posts: 2,401member
    Bummer. Was expecting m4 Ultra tomorrow. 

    So now the theory seems even more plausible. No more Mac updates until wwdc  m5 intro. Likely 32” imac return. 

    The mini will pair with current studio display. Consumer iMac will stay the same. Mac Pro with m5 ultra/extreme will have a new 8k Pro Display XDR. iMac 32” with m5 max/ultra will be 6k resolution.  M5 based Notebooks will be similar to current. Would make a pretty much perfect lineup. 
    It is highly unlikely that Apple will bring back the 32" iMac. They knew exactly how much demand there was when they discounted the old one. And they had every opportunity to stick an M-series SoC in one if they wanted to continue that product size. Likely there's an M-series powered 32" iMac prototype sitting in some warehouse waiting to be destroyed/recycled.

    Remember that >85% of Macs sold are notebook models. This is been the case for 15+ years.

    My guess is that the 32" iMac hasn't been on Apple's Mac product roadmap for several years. And Apple almost never brings back products that they killed off.
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  • Reply 7 of 13
    egold44 said:
    WHY DO WE THINK THEY DID NOT UPDATE MAC STUDIO FROM M2?

    I’m not disappointed having purchased Studio M2 Max on launch day, but it does not seem hard to refresh Studio to M4 and compete with Apple Silicon in latest Macs released this week.
    they never had any plan too... just like last time. they'll let the pro hardware die while everyone buys maxed out Mac minis... though now that they put out the M4 Max MacBook Pro and it STILL doesn't have wifi 7 I feel like I'm gonna be disappointed when the studio finally arrives next summer and still doesn't have it 
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  • Reply 8 of 13
    thrangthrang Posts: 1,051member
    Would have been nice to see a minor refresh on the Studio Display 27, with a DeskView capable camera (unless this is just software? But the specs for it don't list it....)
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 9 of 13
    keithwkeithw Posts: 166member
    What I think I want is an M4 Max.  Since Apple has chosen not to release the M4 Max Studio before the M4 Ultra Studio is ready, the only choice is to buy a MBP, which I neither need nor want.  This is for exclusive desktop use.   I'd hate to pay for a display that I'll never use.  But I DO like the 40 GPU cores on the Max. 
    edited October 2024
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  • Reply 10 of 13
    mattinozmattinoz Posts: 2,608member
    Bummer. Was expecting m4 Ultra tomorrow. 

    So now the theory seems even more plausible. No more Mac updates until wwdc  m5 intro. Likely 32” imac return. 

    The mini will pair with current studio display. Consumer iMac will stay the same. Mac Pro with m5 ultra/extreme will have a new 8k Pro Display XDR. iMac 32” with m5 max/ultra will be 6k resolution.  M5 based Notebooks will be similar to current. Would make a pretty much perfect lineup. 
    Or January post Xmas get the pros excited after the big flush of consumer demand calms down and capacity opens up in the fabs. 
    “Mac to work week” so to speak either just before CES or just after. 
    Or go to target market with NAB in April. 

    Plenty of options prior to WWDC

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  • Reply 11 of 13
    Alex1Nalex1n Posts: 164member
    The original Mac Studio (M1) was released tin March 18 2022. So there’s a chance that the  M4 version might pop up around that time in 2025. The Ultra SoC is the rate-limiting step (look what happened with the M3). It’ll be interesting to see the tear-downs/x-rays of the Pro and Max chips in this respect.
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  • Reply 12 of 13
    mpantonempantone Posts: 2,401member
    mattinoz said:
    Bummer. Was expecting m4 Ultra tomorrow. 

    So now the theory seems even more plausible. No more Mac updates until wwdc  m5 intro. Likely 32” imac return. 

    The mini will pair with current studio display. Consumer iMac will stay the same. Mac Pro with m5 ultra/extreme will have a new 8k Pro Display XDR. iMac 32” with m5 max/ultra will be 6k resolution.  M5 based Notebooks will be similar to current. Would make a pretty much perfect lineup. 
    Or January post Xmas get the pros excited after the big flush of consumer demand calms down and capacity opens up in the fabs. 
    “Mac to work week” so to speak either just before CES or just after. 
    Or go to target market with NAB in April. 

    Plenty of options prior to WWDC

    Apple decided many, many years ago that they no longer wanted to share the limelight with hundreds of other companies at a tradeshow all vying for 15 minutes of fame. The last one they participated in was Macworld Expo in January 2009. They have never had a major presence at CES, NAB, Computex, whatever.

    They get more bang for their buck by running their own events at their own timetable and hand selecting their own guest list. Those journalists are only there to watch Apple, to write about Apple, to publish/post about Apple. 

    The way they staggered the iMac (M4), Mac mini (M4 and M4 Pro), and MacBook Pro (M4, M4 Pro, M4 Max) gave them an article above the fold for three consecutive days. They switched to canned video footage for the product launch announcements and in the past year or two they've had small in-person hands-on demo sessions on campus, but the days of live launches in front of a studio audience are also over. They no longer have to worry about someone's wireless lav mike not picking up the speaker's voice, etc. No cantankerous demo systems, no awkward pauses, none of that. No silent demo jockeys behind a black curtain running a system with two backups just in case the primary demo unit crashes.

    We have been over this time and time again. Those shows force exhibitors to time announcements with a tradeshow calendar. Sometimes it's inconvenience due to holiday (Christmas-New Years precedes CES). There are also supply chain challenges (the Lunar New Year and the corresponding slowdown in factory output during the customary two-week vacation).

    By running their own events, Apple has maximum flexibility not just with date but also location. They can also control the venue for any live component which is why they have switched to the Jobs Theater on the Apple Campus. No more renting out Yerba Buena, Moscone Center, Flint Center.

    If they wanted to make announcements at CES, NAB or any of those shows, they've had 15+ years to do it. Guess what? THEY HAVEN'T. Apple knows what a tradeshow is. They probably send a handful of employees to these shows, not as exhibitors but as attendees. But there is almost no advantage for Apple to make announcements at them, just disadvantages. Journalists love tradeshows because they can see/meet with lots of companies in one trip. Apple doesn't want journalists to do that. They want all eyes and ears on Apple.

    I don't know how many times we need to explain this.
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  • Reply 13 of 13
    chasmchasm Posts: 3,724member
    Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday: exciting new Macs.

    Thursday: record-breaking fiscal Q4 earnings!

    Friday: We’re buying Pixelmator!

    Turns out it WAS a week of exciting Apple announcements!
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