Apple Maps still calls it the Gulf of Mexico, and politicians are upset

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  • Reply 21 of 64
    Wesley Hilliardwesley hilliard Posts: 437member, administrator, moderator, editor
    SmittyW said:
    DAalseth said:
    I wonder if Trump knows it won’t change. He made all sorts of really stupid promises to his supporters. These Executive Orders let him say he followed through, but like his promise in 2016 to ‘bring back coal’ none of them stand a chance in hell of happening. He knows that but he’s just going through the motions. It’s also good misdirection so people talk about this, while he and his crew are doing real damage behind the scenes. 
    As a non-US citizen, how do Executive Orders work?  Are they not binding?  For example, the issue of birthright citizenship is a hot button topic which from my understanding is protected by the 14th Amendment.  Can an executive order just overturn that even though it's in the Constitution?
    Nope. Many of Trump's executive orders were actually illegal. An executive order is kind of like a promissory note that conveys the intentions of the administration. They are binding for federal employees and offices, but can't go beyond that and can't violate the constitution. The orders can later be considered by Congress and the Supreme Court if they need further legislation to make them more official, or if they need to be blocked.

    For example, his orders about birthright citizenship aren't allowed, period. He can't actually provide amnesty to ByteDance from a law that was passed. And he can't withdraw from the WHO like that. He's being sued already and there are a lot of people on both sides of the isle that are unhappy with the many of the executive orders and what they do. Congress will likely overturn several. We'll see.
    You need to do some more research and look into what 'US jurisdiction' means. Might want to look up supreme court precedent while you're at it. You are welcome.

    Also, that's a shame about the WHO, looks like Tedros is going to have to go back to embezzling funds from the Ethiopian government again. Poor guy.
    I'll repeat what I said in a previous thread: wtf are you talking about?
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  • Reply 22 of 64
    Xedxed Posts: 3,086member
    entropys said:
    I find it all very entertaining.  
    One lot of yanks are currently overloaded with euphoria at the thought of a wrecking ball tearing the establishment down, the other lot are crying in their cups.

    and why not call it the Gulf of America? It isn’t as though the left aren’t busy changing place names all the time.
    1) Imagine being such a sensitive little fuckwad as to be upset that a body of water contains the word of another country or a mountain being officially named after the indigenous people who called that for many centuries.

    2) What place names are constantly changing by this left? I certainly haven't noticed this so it would be great if you could back up your comment with recent examples.

    PS: I am genuinely curious to know from the Trump supporter on this forum believe that a person can only be born as either male or female. Or, if XX and XY chromosomes are the only way to define people as male or female (as was an issue during the most recent Summer Olympics).
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  • Reply 23 of 64
    Never been an issue to be different before.. so many examples.
    -change the spelling of the metal Al from aluminium to aluminum the only country on the planet
    -use of imperial units..very strange for a country which went to war over imperial governance..….the only response is, if you don’t like it, there are plenty of countries willing to allow you a fresh start…

    Recruiting the disaffected has already started..

    Now a PhD fellow after serving in the Biden administration…
    Article: $Trump lines his pockets while supporters are out in the cold
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-lines-his-pockets-and-leaves-his-supporters-out-in-the-cold-20250121-p5l62s.html
    there are fast track visa for skilled applicants..plenty of job opportunities
    [btw the $US1 is worth $AUD1.7 and $NZD2.0]
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  • Reply 24 of 64
    Xedxed Posts: 3,086member
    Appleish said:
    I hope his sheep realize that Executive Orders are weak and temporary edicts. The moment his second and final term is over, the Democrat elected to clean up his mess AGAIN will reverse all of this petty BS.
    Trump rescinded 78 of Biden's EOs yesterday.

    I'm afraid this country has been lost to fascism forever. The fascists here  will say that I'm just throwing out that term, but it's definition is very simply "an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization" which is exactly what they voted for and got and — on a more complex note — shown off by the broligarchy that accompanied him yesterday.

    Can you imagine if Biden had done that or if Obama had dared not get sworn in on the Bible? The so-called conservative media wouldn't have stop harping in. I know this because they slammed Obama for months over wearing a tan suit. It's kinda amazing what people will chose to accept when their focus is on stripping the rights and freedoms of 
    minorities instead of actually being self aware, mature, and fair enough to want a level playing field in life.
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  • Reply 25 of 64
    This truly is the stupidest fucking timeline

    #giantfuckingmeteor2025
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  • Reply 26 of 64
    Xed said:
    entropys said:
    I find it all very entertaining.  
    One lot of yanks are currently overloaded with euphoria at the thought of a wrecking ball tearing the establishment down, the other lot are crying in their cups.

    and why not call it the Gulf of America? It isn’t as though the left aren’t busy changing place names all the time.
    1) Imagine being such a sensitive little fuckwad as to be upset that a body of water contains the word of another country or a mountain being officially named after the indigenous people who called that for many centuries.

    2) What place names are constantly changing by this left? I certainly haven't noticed this so it would be great if you could back up your comment with recent examples.

    PS: I am genuinely curious to know from the Trump supporter on this forum believe that a person can only be born as either male or female. Or, if XX and XY chromosomes are the only way to define people as male or female (as was an issue during the most recent Summer Olympics).
    These people are not worth arguing with. People who constantly argue in bad faith, never are.

    there is an “ignore” function here, you know. It works wonders.
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  • Reply 27 of 64
    When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king, the palace becomes a circus.
    -Turkish proverb
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  • Reply 28 of 64
    Xed said:
    entropys said:
    I find it all very entertaining.  
    One lot of yanks are currently overloaded with euphoria at the thought of a wrecking ball tearing the establishment down, the other lot are crying in their cups.

    and why not call it the Gulf of America? It isn’t as though the left aren’t busy changing place names all the time.
    1) Imagine being such a sensitive little fuckwad as to be upset that a body of water contains the word of another country or a mountain being officially named after the indigenous people who called that for many centuries.

    2) What place names are constantly changing by this left? I certainly haven't noticed this so it would be great if you could back up your comment with recent examples.

    PS: I am genuinely curious to know from the Trump supporter on this forum believe that a person can only be born as either male or female. Or, if XX and XY chromosomes are the only way to define people as male or female (as was an issue during the most recent Summer Olympics).
    These people are not worth arguing with. People who constantly argue in bad faith, never are.

    there is an “ignore” function here, you know. It works wonders.
    The problem with using "ignore" button more often is - You become part of a "closed circle", contributing to the divide in the society even more. I try to avoid using the "ignore" button as much as possible, and resist posting responses when the problem of "arguing in bad faith" occurs. To each his own, i guess.
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  • Reply 29 of 64
    ilarynxilarynx Posts: 150member
    SmittyW said:
    DAalseth said:
    I wonder if Trump knows it won’t change. He made all sorts of really stupid promises to his supporters. These Executive Orders let him say he followed through, but like his promise in 2016 to ‘bring back coal’ none of them stand a chance in hell of happening. He knows that but he’s just going through the motions. It’s also good misdirection so people talk about this, while he and his crew are doing real damage behind the scenes. 
    As a non-US citizen, how do Executive Orders work?  Are they not binding?  For example, the issue of birthright citizenship is a hot button topic which from my understanding is protected by the 14th Amendment.  Can an executive order just overturn that even though it's in the Constitution?
    Nope. Many of Trump's executive orders were actually illegal. An executive order is kind of like a promissory note that conveys the intentions of the administration. They are binding for federal employees and offices, but can't go beyond that and can't violate the constitution. The orders can later be considered by Congress and the Supreme Court if they need further legislation to make them more official, or if they need to be blocked.

    For example, his orders about birthright citizenship aren't allowed, period. He can't actually provide amnesty to ByteDance from a law that was passed. And he can't withdraw from the WHO like that. He's being sued already and there are a lot of people on both sides of the isle that are unhappy with the many of the executive orders and what they do. Congress will likely overturn several. We'll see.
    You need to do some more research and look into what 'US jurisdiction' means. Might want to look up supreme court precedent while you're at it. You are welcome.

    Also, that's a shame about the WHO, looks like Tedros is going to have to go back to embezzling funds from the Ethiopian government again. Poor guy.
    I'll repeat what I said in a previous thread: wtf are you talking about?
    It looks like that particular hallucinating AI bot doesn't respond to direct inquiries. (Either that, or the latest extension for ChatGPT prefaces each query with "AI BOT ON METH...").
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  • Reply 30 of 64
    Apple and Google will likely follow BGN for US users and UNGEN for the rest of the world. That’s it. Next. 
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  • Reply 31 of 64
    It's worth mentioning that Mexico has more miles along the coast with 1,743 miles compared with 1,680 miles for the USA.
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  • Reply 32 of 64
    It is like we are living in a sitcom.
    And the WHOLE world is laughing. 
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  • Reply 33 of 64
    Meanwhile, it seems highly unlikely that Apple will change the name of the location because of one country's demands.

    Serious question: what if Shitler places a call to his good friend Tim Apple about it? Highly plausible scenario with Dictator-on-Day-One.

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  • Reply 34 of 64
    Misdirection is part of the con.
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  • Reply 35 of 64
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,740member

    I hope we see some solid stats showing how many regret voting for this "President". So many families are in for a lot of hurt over the next four years because his stance on the US is not rooted in modern thought nor being inclusive.

    The best data on that will come November 2026.
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  • Reply 36 of 64
    U.S. territory extends 12 nautical miles into the water. That's all that could be renamed by a U.S. president. So any mapping program would be totally correct in showing 'Gulf of Mexico' for a zoomed out view and 'Gulf of America' for a zoomed in view that includes the 12 mile limit. 
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  • Reply 37 of 64
    Wesley Hilliardwesley hilliard Posts: 437member, administrator, moderator, editor
    U.S. territory extends 12 nautical miles into the water. That's all that could be renamed by a U.S. president. So any mapping program would be totally correct in showing 'Gulf of Mexico' for a zoomed out view and 'Gulf of America' for a zoomed in view that includes the 12 mile limit. 
    That's such a tiny range it would basically be the Shoreline of America.
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  • Reply 38 of 64
    Mike Wuerthelemike wuerthele Posts: 7,017administrator
    SmittyW said:
    DAalseth said:
    I wonder if Trump knows it won’t change. He made all sorts of really stupid promises to his supporters. These Executive Orders let him say he followed through, but like his promise in 2016 to ‘bring back coal’ none of them stand a chance in hell of happening. He knows that but he’s just going through the motions. It’s also good misdirection so people talk about this, while he and his crew are doing real damage behind the scenes. 
    As a non-US citizen, how do Executive Orders work?  Are they not binding?  For example, the issue of birthright citizenship is a hot button topic which from my understanding is protected by the 14th Amendment.  Can an executive order just overturn that even though it's in the Constitution?
    Nope. Many of Trump's executive orders were actually illegal. An executive order is kind of like a promissory note that conveys the intentions of the administration. They are binding for federal employees and offices, but can't go beyond that and can't violate the constitution. The orders can later be considered by Congress and the Supreme Court if they need further legislation to make them more official, or if they need to be blocked.

    For example, his orders about birthright citizenship aren't allowed, period. He can't actually provide amnesty to ByteDance from a law that was passed. And he can't withdraw from the WHO like that. He's being sued already and there are a lot of people on both sides of the isle that are unhappy with the many of the executive orders and what they do. Congress will likely overturn several. We'll see.
    You need to do some more research and look into what 'US jurisdiction' means. Might want to look up supreme court precedent while you're at it. You are welcome.

    Also, that's a shame about the WHO, looks like Tedros is going to have to go back to embezzling funds from the Ethiopian government again. Poor guy.
    I don't think Wes is the one that needs to look up US jurisdiction. 
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  • Reply 39 of 64
    Truly  a man of his convictions........
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  • Reply 40 of 64
    AppleZuluapplezulu Posts: 2,352member
    Of course this is ridiculous. Its purpose, however, should be clear. It provides a distraction by producing extended arguments in public and particularly online. This is nuts, but it's shielding from scrutiny far worse things that deserve far more attention.
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