Trump's tariffs could drive up iPhone prices by about 10%

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Estimating the cost to Apple of paying President Trump's import tariffs, Bank of America believes that a 9% price hike for the iPhone and all other devices, would prevent losses.

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Apple CEO Tim Cook [left] with Donald Trump [right] at a Mac Pro factory



It's a fiction that other countries will pay tariffs, as instead all such costs will always be borne by US companies. In the case of Apple, it has previously earned an exemption -- though not consistently -- and it has tried to reduce the impact of tariffs by moving manufacturing to different countries.

According to CNBC, this time that spreading of the manufacturing around various locations is not going to help. Bank of America now estimates that whatever Apple does with manufacturing, and wherever it does it, the company will face a minimum of a 10% tariff.

In the short term, Apple could absorb that cost and may well chose to rather than raise prices. Once a customer goes to Android because of the price, it is that much harder to get them back to the iPhone.

Should Apple simply pay the tariffs and take that hit itself, the Bank of America calculates that it would face a loss of 26 cents in earnings per share. That equates to a drop of around 3% across calendar year 2026.

One option is for Apple to increase prices, but not enough to cover its tariff costs. Bank of America says that if, for instance, it raised prices by 3%, that would mean a 2.4% slide and a per-share earnings drop of 21 cents.

The calculation is based on both the tariffs expected to affect goods or components made in various countries, and an estimate of how higher prices would mean lower sales.

If Apple passes on its increased costs to buyers, and sales decrease, Bank of America estimates that the company would need to raise prices by 9%.

As yet, it's not known what Apple will do, beyond presumably continuing to lobby for exemptions. But Bank of America analyst Wamsi Mohan says that the tariffs seem "manageable."



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  • Reply 1 of 20
    They will not have an effect because the CEO's are breaking their necks to rush to the White House to kiss the ring and get exemptions for their particular company - soooo, I don't seen an increase in the price (because of tariffs).
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  • Reply 2 of 20
    Oh well everyone likes to pay more for EVERYTHING, ESPECIALLY the people who elected Trump into office!  Oh well for everyone who elected Trump into office I hope your ENJOYING the show everything that Trump is doing for everyone!  Everyone was warned and all the signs were there that this is what was going to happen so I HOPE EVERYONE ENJOYS paying higher costs, taxes, fees, and oh the tariffs are great too!  Just wait we (Americans) will have to pay for all these tariffs since there OUTSTANDING for everyone to pay, we need more taxes, fees, and tariffs to pay in the USA come on Trump, GREAT WORK!!! 
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  • Reply 3 of 20
    They will not have an effect because the CEO's are breaking their necks to rush to the White House to kiss the ring and get exemptions for their particular company - soooo, I don't seen an increase in the price (because of tariffs).
    Likely, in the unlikely scenario.
    Those tariffs are just bargaining chips for now.
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  • Reply 4 of 20
    Laying off hundreds of thousands of federal workers + gutting regulatory control + tariffs on major trading partners + yet another giant tax cut for the rich/corporations = another economic crash. It's just a matter of how soon it happens. It's also what the billionaire class is hoping for. 

    https://theweek.com/articles/460179/charts-how-rich-won-great-recession
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  • Reply 5 of 20
    Tariffs are only one factor in the multi-variate input to producer pricing. Importers may adjust prices and their suppliers, too. Disbursements of ERS income to citizens via tax cuts will allow consumers to more easily absorb higher pricing. In other words a x% import tariff may not necessarily lead to a consumer price multiplier of (1 + x / 100). We will just have to wait and see how it plays out.

    At this point the priority is strengthening the domestic manufacturing base. This is important to the U.S. workforce, as well as strategically. In the case of a conflict with China, what use will cheap aspirin be, if it has led to there not being any functional chemical plants in the U.S., anymore, that make other important medications?

    Let’s not bitch about a 10% tariff, when the last four years brought us > 25% inflation on groceries, which make for a much larger proportion of a family’s budget than an iPhone or two a year. For the one there are very well-reasoned economic policy drivers, for the other there were several very boneheaded and potentially intentionally destructive ones.
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  • Reply 6 of 20
    dominikhoffmann said: Let’s not bitch about a 10% tariff, when the last four years brought us > 25% inflation on groceries, which make for a much larger proportion of a family’s budget than an iPhone or two a year.
    See the chart below...your theory isn't off to a good start. It appears the business world views the Trump administration as a green light for more predatory practices. 



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  • Reply 7 of 20
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,746member
    Laying off hundreds of thousands of federal workers + gutting regulatory control + tariffs on major trading partners + yet another giant tax cut for the rich/corporations = another economic crash. It's just a matter of how soon it happens. It's also what the billionaire class is hoping for. 

    https://theweek.com/articles/460179/charts-how-rich-won-great-recession
    They should be careful what they wish for. The Great Depression resulted in FDR, and his policies essentially saved capitalism in the west, even though he is reviled by many in the billionaire class (and those who serve them). But it could have resulted in a more revolutionary outcome (as in French or Russian), which might not be so good for the billionaires. A lot of people across the political spectrum (but not in the top 1%) see Mangione as a hero, or are at least sympathetic to him. An economic collapse would supercharge that kind of sentiment. Musk might need a droid army to protect him at that point. 
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  • Reply 8 of 20
    blastdoor said: The Great Depression resulted in FDR
    The general population of the U.S. was smarter at that time. The current population still hasn't figured out that an anti-regulatory party isn't going to improve economic outcomes for anyone except the rich. 
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  • Reply 9 of 20
    The 16e already has gone up. Its positioning looks like the 17 will go up too.
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  • Reply 10 of 20
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,742member
    diman80 said:
    They will not have an effect because the CEO's are breaking their necks to rush to the White House to kiss the ring and get exemptions for their particular company - soooo, I don't seen an increase in the price (because of tariffs).
    Likely, in the unlikely scenario.
    Those tariffs are just bargaining chips for now.
    To what end, exactly? 

    Unlike Canada, which as a "concession" just presented a plan that had already been in effect for months before Tr*mp took office, which Trump accepted knowing that his disciples would never bother to find out they were lied to (or wouldn't care), China really doesn't give a shit about making Tr*mp look good. 

    They're already laughing all the way to the bank: 

    Killing USAID has destroyed any good will and good standing the United States had in those many countries where it was active, leaving the door wide open for China to fill in the gap and deepen (trade) relations long-term. 
    They're more than happy Tr*mp has killed diplomacy. 
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  • Reply 11 of 20
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,746member
    blastdoor said: The Great Depression resulted in FDR
    The general population of the U.S. was smarter at that time. The current population still hasn't figured out that an anti-regulatory party isn't going to improve economic outcomes for anyone except the rich. 
    I think it's important to understand that's not actually right. My grandparents were young adults who voted for FDR and their schooling ended at 8th grade. They had a lot of prejudices and misconceptions about the world. They voted for FDR not because they were geniuses, but because the alternative was Hoover. 

    The real difference -- and it's critically important to understand-- between then and now is that back then there was a system for selecting presidential candidates that was mostly run by elites, not the masses. Candidates were selected by party machines in the proverbial smoky back room. That process eliminated radical candidates and presented the populace with two mostly sane and reasonable, though still importantly different, choices. 

    Our problem today is that the system for nominating candidates, especially (apparently) in the Republican Party, has broken down, and deeply flawed people are able to become nominees. 
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  • Reply 12 of 20
    blastdoor said: The real difference -- and it's critically important to understand-- between then and now is that back then there was a system for selecting presidential candidates that was mostly run by elites, not the masses. Candidates were selected by party machines in the proverbial smoky back room. That process eliminated radical candidates and presented the populace with two mostly sane and reasonable, though still importantly different, choices. 
    Gutting regulations and handing out tax cuts to the rich and corporations isn't anything new in the Republican party. They've been doing it for the last 45 years. Reagan, Bush I, Bush II and Trump are all the same in that regard and it always leads to higher income inequality and an economic crisis. Despite how predictable it is, a large percentage of the voting public still hasn't figured it out. 
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  • Reply 13 of 20
    Tariffs are only one factor in the multi-variate input to producer pricing. Importers may adjust prices and their suppliers, too. Disbursements of ERS income to citizens via tax cuts will allow consumers to more easily absorb higher pricing. In other words a x% import tariff may not necessarily lead to a consumer price multiplier of (1 + x / 100). We will just have to wait and see how it plays out.

    At this point the priority is strengthening the domestic manufacturing base. This is important to the U.S. workforce, as well as strategically. In the case of a conflict with China, what use will cheap aspirin be, if it has led to there not being any functional chemical plants in the U.S., anymore, that make other important medications?

    Let’s not bitch about a 10% tariff, when the last four years brought us > 25% inflation on groceries, which make for a much larger proportion of a family’s budget than an iPhone or two a year. For the one there are very well-reasoned economic policy drivers, for the other there were several very boneheaded and potentially intentionally destructive ones.
    "an iPhone or two a year"?  You seem knowledgeable -- how much does the average family spend a year on product from China?  Food, paper goods, clothes, electronics, tools, you-name-it, it probably comes from China.  So why you just say an iPhone or two is the only thing affected by King Trump's tariffs (he calls himself a King) won't affect the average family?
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  • Reply 14 of 20
    sbdudesbdude Posts: 306member
    blastdoor said:
    Laying off hundreds of thousands of federal workers + gutting regulatory control + tariffs on major trading partners + yet another giant tax cut for the rich/corporations = another economic crash. It's just a matter of how soon it happens. It's also what the billionaire class is hoping for. 

    https://theweek.com/articles/460179/charts-how-rich-won-great-recession
    They should be careful what they wish for. The Great Depression resulted in FDR, and his policies essentially saved capitalism in the west, even though he is reviled by many in the billionaire class (and those who serve them). But it could have resulted in a more revolutionary outcome (as in French or Russian), which might not be so good for the billionaires. A lot of people across the political spectrum (but not in the top 1%) see Mangione as a hero, or are at least sympathetic to him. An economic collapse would supercharge that kind of sentiment. Musk might need a droid army to protect him at that point. 
    Yes, and let's not forget FDR was a vegetable for many of those years, too. Just like this room's favorite president, it would seem.
    edited February 20
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  • Reply 15 of 20
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,746member
    blastdoor said: The real difference -- and it's critically important to understand-- between then and now is that back then there was a system for selecting presidential candidates that was mostly run by elites, not the masses. Candidates were selected by party machines in the proverbial smoky back room. That process eliminated radical candidates and presented the populace with two mostly sane and reasonable, though still importantly different, choices. 
    Gutting regulations and handing out tax cuts to the rich and corporations isn't anything new in the Republican party. They've been doing it for the last 45 years. Reagan, Bush I, Bush II and Trump are all the same in that regard and it always leads to higher income inequality and an economic crisis. Despite how predictable it is, a large percentage of the voting public still hasn't figured it out. 
    It is a crime against reason and evidence to say that Trump is the same as those other presidents. He is radically worse. If you can't perceive that then you are a big part of the problem with America. 
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  • Reply 16 of 20
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,659member
    blastdoor said:
    blastdoor said: The Great Depression resulted in FDR
    The general population of the U.S. was smarter at that time. The current population still hasn't figured out that an anti-regulatory party isn't going to improve economic outcomes for anyone except the rich. 
    I think it's important to understand that's not actually right. My grandparents were young adults who voted for FDR and their schooling ended at 8th grade. They had a lot of prejudices and misconceptions about the world. They voted for FDR not because they were geniuses, but because the alternative was Hoover. 

    The real difference -- and it's critically important to understand-- between then and now is that back then there was a system for selecting presidential candidates that was mostly run by elites, not the masses. Candidates were selected by party machines in the proverbial smoky back room. That process eliminated radical candidates and presented the populace with two mostly sane and reasonable, though still importantly different, choices. 

    Our problem today is that the system for nominating candidates, especially (apparently) in the Republican Party, has broken down, and deeply flawed people are able to become nominees. 

    One thing that has changed today in comparison to the past, is that many people at the top have no shame and seem to get away with lying as a way of life, It’s particularly nauseating in the digital age where you can replay footage or audio and clearly show the lie. The person lied through their teeth, but the Talking Heads sit there and make apologies for the person who clearly, lied.
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  • Reply 17 of 20
    If Apple absorbs the tariff cost rather than pass to buyers, then the tariff really becomes an Apple tax. That by itself is a problem if some tariff exclusion does not happen.  Additionally Apple has in past absorbed costs with currency exchange, when the US dollar was so much higher than most currencies. Currently, the US dollar is two standard deviations above its 50-year average so FX is another headwind for Apple selling outside of the US.

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  • Reply 18 of 20
    Tariffs are only one factor in the multi-variate input to producer pricing. Importers may adjust prices and their suppliers, too. Disbursements of ERS income to citizens via tax cuts will allow consumers to more easily absorb higher pricing. In other words a x% import tariff may not necessarily lead to a consumer price multiplier of (1 + x / 100). We will just have to wait and see how it plays out.

    At this point the priority is strengthening the domestic manufacturing base. This is important to the U.S. workforce, as well as strategically. In the case of a conflict with China, what use will cheap aspirin be, if it has led to there not being any functional chemical plants in the U.S., anymore, that make other important medications?

    Let’s not bitch about a 10% tariff, when the last four years brought us > 25% inflation on groceries, which make for a much larger proportion of a family’s budget than an iPhone or two a year. For the one there are very well-reasoned economic policy drivers, for the other there were several very boneheaded and potentially intentionally destructive ones.
    Last month, egg prices had the greatest increase ever. Yet, no clear directive on how to address HPAI. Inflation continues to increase. but current administration wastes time on renaming the gulf, pardoning criminals that beat up police, alienating our closest allies with stupid trade wars (to get what previous administration got by nicely asking), and firing thousands of workers. Just like everyone expected! Hope you like continued inflation because nothing is being done to address it and it is going to get worse with these policies.
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  • Reply 19 of 20
    dewmedewme Posts: 5,965member
    iPhone prices going up by 10% is probably somewhere between the 96th and 99th concern on my list of the top 100 concerns given the current situation in the United States. We and our ancestral American brothers and sisters have spent nearly 250 years (next year is 250) trying to form a more perfect union under democratic principles. Democracy is extremely difficult to preserve over a long period of time. It's hard, it's contentious, it means some of us have to make sacrifices and agree to do things that are not necessarily good for us personally but better for the nation as a whole. We have been good citizens on the same planet were share with our transcontinental neighbors.

    I believe that the struggle for democracy has always been worth it, even though it has always been at risk of failing. We have not previously succumbed to the quick fix solutions like authoritarianism, monarchies, and dictatorships. Those are the easy way and lazy way out because there are no contentious arguments or struggles to reach a consensus with multiple perspectives in play. You just do what you're told and shut TF up. What is right, most humanitarian, neighborly, and seeking a better quality of life for the masses no longer matters. Those who are in charge own everything, even you. 

    We are heading down a path away from democracy and are in the midst of purging the experts who know what they're doing and replacing them with loyalists, regardless of their knowledge, expertise, or experience. We have anointed a new leader who cares only about himself and his fellow elites. The mind boggling thing is that we chose the easy path for ridiculously petty reasons. Our grandparents stormed the beaches of Normandy and a lot of them died trying to rid the world of an evil dictator who caused more than 60 million humans to die. Now we're putting a person and party with similar proclivities in unrestrained control, no matter the degree ... because eggs are too damn expensive and ideologies that border on pure insanity. 

    What the hey, it was a nice ride for nearly 250 years and now we've giving up, living in isolation, worrying about the names of bodies of water, pronouns, and 10% hike on Apple product prices. The easy way just got a whole lot harder.


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  • Reply 20 of 20
    1348513485 Posts: 393member
    sbdude said:
    blastdoor said:
    Laying off hundreds of thousands of federal workers + gutting regulatory control + tariffs on major trading partners + yet another giant tax cut for the rich/corporations = another economic crash. It's just a matter of how soon it happens. It's also what the billionaire class is hoping for. 

    https://theweek.com/articles/460179/charts-how-rich-won-great-recession
    They should be careful what they wish for. The Great Depression resulted in FDR, and his policies essentially saved capitalism in the west, even though he is reviled by many in the billionaire class (and those who serve them). But it could have resulted in a more revolutionary outcome (as in French or Russian), which might not be so good for the billionaires. A lot of people across the political spectrum (but not in the top 1%) see Mangione as a hero, or are at least sympathetic to him. An economic collapse would supercharge that kind of sentiment. Musk might need a droid army to protect him at that point. 
    Yes, and let's not forget FDR was a vegetable for many of those years, too. Just like this room's favorite president, it would seem.
    It would seem you weren't paying attention in history. FDR had polio. He was not a "vegetable". Polio affects your legs, not your mind.



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