Apple cut too much by removing MagSafe from the iPhone 16e

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Apple says that you can use wireless Qi chargers with the iPhone 16e and it's true, but isn't MagSafe and that causes problems.

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Apple can't come out and say wired charging is better than wireless, but it tried.



One of the compromises Apple made with making a lower-cost entry to the iPhone 16 range was to remove MagSafe. Apple is correct when it says you can still use wireless charging, but that's not the half of it.

If you have to use a Qi charger instead of MagSafe, it will take much longer and it will be so inefficient that it uses more power. And that's if you can be certain you have placed the iPhone 16e on exactly the right spot of the Qi charger.



Compare that last to MagSafe. You are never in any doubt whether you have or have not positioned the iPhone correctly because the magnets practically tug you to the right spot.

The magnets also mean that the iPhone's charging circuitry precisely lines up with the charger so all of the available charge is going into the phone. That certainty that you are charging is probably more important than the fact MagSafe charges faster.

If you always charge your iPhone overnight then you have no need to care how long it takes. But if the iPhone wasn't aligned and didn't charge, now the time it takes before you can leave home is important.

MagSafe charges at 25 watts on the iPhone 16. A regular Qi charger can manage a peak of 7.5W on the iPhone 16e.

Qi2 is better, but you won't get it



Apple based its MagSafe system on the original Qi, but then built up around it so that it became a proprietary wireless charger. Apple also added components to allow the mounting of different accessories.

But then Apple contributed its MagSafe technology to the consortium behind Qi. That ultimately meant that the more recent Qi2 is really MagSafe.

All of this is moot, though, as the iPhone 16e does not support either MagSafe or Qi2.

Stick to wired charging



There's a reason Apple's vice president of iPhone Product Marketing, Kaiann Drance, discussed charging the order she did in Apple's video launch. First, and with most emphasis, Drance talked about charging the iPhone 16e with a cable.

She specifically pointed out that it would be a USB-C cable, and made a virtue of how this meant the same cable could charge many different devices.

But then, practically as a throwaway comment, she said "and of course, it supports wireless charging too."

Apple thinks you should be charging the iPhone 16e with a USB-C cable, and Apple is right. Charging by a cable is always faster anyway, but in this case it's also sensible because it's clear when you've connected the charger correctly.

Exploded view of a smartphone showing internal components: copper-graphite shield, magnet array, alignment magnet, charging coil, polycarbonate housing, and e-shield.
How Apple's MagSafe works



Then, using the cable means a more efficient use of power to recharge the device's large battery. It means less power is wasted through the generation of heat because the phone isn't aligned correctly.

And it means that you're limited in the charging stands you can buy.

Reclined chargers will work, for instance, but only so long as the charging section is not floating. If the iPhone can rest on a lip at the bottom, reclining chargers are fine.

However, the iPhone 16e will not stay on a floating or a vertical charger, for instance, because these have no magnets or support.

Without question, there are going to be many third-party firms that claim to solve this. But they'll solve it by selling cases that have magnets in them -- and that's not a solution.

Having magnets in an iPhone case can block or reduce the speed of wireless charging. So you could end up trying to improve matters with a case that then makes things worse.

All of this also has the knock-on effect that iPhone 16e users will not have StandBy. That's where an iPhone on charger can be turned to the horizontal and the screen is filled with a clock.

StandBy absolutely requires an iPhone to be charging, it won't start without being on a charger. In theory that's all it needs, but for practical purposes StandBy works best when the iPhone has an always-on display.

So removing MagSafe has lengthened wireless charging time, it's made putting the phone onto charge unnecessarily harder. And it's taken away the StandBy feature that's on other iPhones.

But then that said, it's also taken away certain Apple iPhone accessories and Apple sells a lot of those. So Apple will lose out on accessory sales.

After some drama we heard overnight about concerns that a MagSafe case might interfere with the modem, we're now certain that case manufacturers are going to crank out accessories that add the feature. But, it won't bring 25W charging, and that design you want for your case probably won't have it -- just a select few.

MagSafe seems like such an obscure feature, but if you use it, you find it very hard to go back to an iPhone without it. It's a shame that you'll have to buy something else to use one of the best features of the iPhone ecosystem.



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  • Reply 1 of 49
    So what? If you want MagSafe, buy a phone that has it.
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  • Reply 2 of 49
    This seems like an extreme take. My wife and I have had MagSafe capable phones since they came out and, without any MagSafe accessories, charge primarily with Qi chargers without any issues. I have one at my desk and bedside table and don’t have a second thought when placing my phone to charge on either of them. 

    Maybe I’m missing out never having used it, but without it, I certainly don’t crave it or feeling like I’m missing anything. 
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  • Reply 3 of 49
    Xedxed Posts: 3,102member
    I was shocked when I read it had no MagSafe. It seems like such an obvious feature, but I don't know how much space it takes up or what cost it adds to the device.

    Personally, I love it because it means that the Qi charger doesn't have to be set so preciously to work (which I do have to do on occasion when the Qi charger doesn't have it. I also like having it as a quick mount in my automobile.
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  • Reply 4 of 49
    In the range of possible things they could have omitted to distinguish this model from the 16 that costs $200 more, MagSafe magnets seem like one of the more minor compromises to me. I’m not sure I’d pay $200 for a Dynamic Island, mmWave or ultrawide camera either. Now, if it were a headphone jack…
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  • Reply 5 of 49
    This doesn’t make sense to me. Apple sales MagSafe products like cases, wallets, chargers and not having MagSafe means they won’t be able sell any of them to folks who get the 16e. 
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  • Reply 6 of 49
    The article is overblown. I have 3 iPhones in my immediate family that have MagSafe. We own exactly zero MagSafe chargers and at least 3 wireless ones. Most of the time we use a cable. The extra 2 seconds it takes to plug it is in is an unnoticeable inconvenience. 

    But if you're hooked on MagSafe, Apple is more than happy that you'll pay $200 more to satisfy that need.

    (And no one cares that it uses more electricity to charge wirelessly without MagSafe. But Mother Earth might wag a finger at Tim in the next video I suppose.)
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  • Reply 7 of 49
    What’s to stop a 3rd party case manufacturer from putting magnets in a case? 

    The post makes it sound like Qi is ‘lossy’ charging but MagSafe is not. They’re both lossy but one has a better chance of optimal alignment for the least loss overall. 
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  • Reply 8 of 49
    Have you considered that a large target audience for this phone are people with pacemakers? And that Apple needs a phone on the market that will not cause pacemakers to stop working?
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  • Reply 9 of 49
    M68000m68000 Posts: 931member
    Graeme000 said:
    This seems like an extreme take. My wife and I have had MagSafe capable phones since they came out and, without any MagSafe accessories, charge primarily with Qi chargers without any issues. I have one at my desk and bedside table and don’t have a second thought when placing my phone to charge on either of them. 

    Maybe I’m missing out never having used it, but without it, I certainly don’t crave it or feeling like I’m missing anything. 
    Agreed.  Same here,  have recent iPhone and no MagSafe chargers.  Been using Qi since iPhone 8 and every phone between.  Have not found lining up phone on Qi chargers to be an issue.  There are also some people who say batteries should be charged slowly to make them last longer for long term use.
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  • Reply 10 of 49
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,744member
    Rumour has it, the magnets interfere with Apple's new C1 modem chip. 
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  • Reply 11 of 49
    nubusnubus Posts: 779member
    This doesn’t make sense to me. Apple sales MagSafe products like cases, wallets, chargers and not having MagSafe means they won’t be able sell any of them to folks who get the 16e. 
    Agree. The attach rate on accessories makes MagSafe very profitable. There must be some other reason. Apple replied to MacWorld that it wasn't due to the C1 module. Case vendors should then be able to add magnets or go all the way with Qi2 through the USB connector.

    The article states that Apple removed MagSafe. The SE and XR models never included MagSafe and so it wasn't really removed. Still a very capable phone. Just as the power button on Mac mini this gives us something to talk about :-)
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  • Reply 12 of 49
    maltzmaltz Posts: 532member
    From a convenience standpoint, Magsafe is a little easier than Qi charging, but it's hardly a big deal to place the phone in the right spot - I did it for many years.  And if you're optimizing for charge speed, AI's own tests show that neither wireless option is anywhere near as fast as wired, especially early in the charge curve when the battery is <80%.
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  • Reply 13 of 49
    1348513485 Posts: 394member
    prismo said:
    Have you considered that a large target audience for this phone are people with pacemakers? And that Apple needs a phone on the market that will not cause pacemakers to stop working?

    From the FDA.gov website: "Magnets in Cell Phones and Smart Watches May Affect Pacemakers and Other Medical Devices"

    "The FDA is aware of published articles which describe the effect that sufficiently strong magnetic fields can turn on the magnetic safe mode when in close contact. The FDA also conducted its own testing on some products that use the high field strength magnet feature and have confirmed the magnetic field is both consistent with the publications and strong enough to turn on the magnetic safety mode of the medical devices in question. The FDA believes the risk to patients is low, and the agency is not aware of any adverse events associated with this issue at this time." (MY BOLD)

    I'm not a doctor but we have pacemaker wearer in the family and they work great. The cardiologists told us that a pacemaker patient should avoid close (defined by Medtronic and FDA as 6" or less) or prolonged contact with electronic devices, all of which have a magnetic field. So don't hold it against your pacemaker, don't wear it in a pocket over your pacemaker. It's better to use it on the side away from the pacemaker to be cautious. It applies to all cell phones, watches, radios/walkie-talkies, game controllers, etc. When the pacemaker is too close to a magnetic field it goes into a protective "magnet mode" until the field is moved away, and it resumes normal operation. BUT depending on the heart problem, this period of pacemaker inactivity can be debilitating or fatal, so patients always have to be aware. All this and more is in the website quoted above.
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  • Reply 14 of 49
    This is overblown, and not really the end of the world. Practically everyone uses a Case with their iPhone, and so practically everyone who uses MagSafe to charge doesn't rely on the Phone's magnets for aligning the charger anyway. I'm sure there will be Case makers who provide the magnet ring for 16E, just like they have for iPhones for nearly 5 years. Would MagSafe in the phone+case strengthen the hold for car-mounted options? Probably. But a Gig Driver (a very urban job) who would use such a setup probably needs a different phone that supports mmWave.
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  • Reply 15 of 49
    Xedxed Posts: 3,102member
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  • Reply 16 of 49
    AppleZuluapplezulu Posts: 2,368member
    So the criticism here is that the entry-level model lacks the features of regular and premium models. Interesting.
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  • Reply 17 of 49
    hexclockhexclock Posts: 1,345member
    I just bought a Belkin QI2 charger and it is very fast. How much faster do you get with MagSafe. Seems to be a non issue to me. 
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  • Reply 18 of 49
    I have an iPhone 11 without MagSafe, but I can still use the Standby functionality with wireless charging... there are plenty of stands that allow for this without MagSafe. While I'd prefer that it has MagSafe, it isn't really needed for anything unless you have a bunch of accessories that require it.
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  • Reply 19 of 49
    lack of UWB is an even more glaring omission to me. it's not like they saved much money doing that and it makes AirTags worthless.
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  • Reply 20 of 49
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,405member
    jvm156 said:
    lack of UWB is an even more glaring omission to me. it's not like they saved much money doing that and it makes AirTags worthless.
    Pretty sure it wasn't a cost-saving issue. I think it's that Apple's modem tech is not quite there yet. That's why we'll be seeing another round of Qualcomm modems in the iPhone 17 models come September. I also doubt that cost-saving drove the decision to not include MagSafe--my guess is that it was done to help maintain feature distance from the standard iPhone. If you hope to upsell people to a regular iPhone that's $200 (or 33%) more expensive, MagSafe would be near the top of the "VERY Nice to Have" list of features. 
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