Apple to build AI servers in Houston, invest $500B in U.S. economy

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  • Reply 41 of 65
    Xedxed Posts: 3,070member
    "Apple to Spend $430B On Data Centers, Manufacturing, Offices in the US" from 2021 article. LOL

    https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/investing/apple-to-spend-430b-on-data-centers-manufacturing-offices-in-the-us
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  • Reply 42 of 65
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    jpellino said:
    Keeping servers in the states makes a lot of sense. They wouldn’t have them in China. They would never have them in Russia. And housing them anywhere in the EU means that they’d have to be subject to their laws. If the servers are in the United States, they can shut off any access to them based on laws and regions. I’m a little worried about the Houston installation because Texas’s grid is so unpredictable / unreliable.  
    Apple also has data centers in China, Denmark, and Ireland, at the very least.
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  • Reply 43 of 65
    welshdogwelshdog Posts: 1,922member
    Texas is an odd choice, Houston even moreso. I guess the manufacturing at this facility will be so basic and simplistic that interruptions from Houston's increasingly extreme weather won't matter. If I were situating factories I would not be putting them in areas of current and woresening extreme weather. That just seems unwise. Now Apple of course is known for using renewables and such to power their facilities so maybe they are planing a large stationary battery farm to go with it. Hmm another thing I just thought of is the stupidly high HVAC costs this facility will have compared to other more mild regions. I guess like others have said, this is being done just to please Trump and his pet Texas red monkeys.
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  • Reply 44 of 65
    Why is it the big corporations keep building fabs or factories in the worst of all possible places (south-central Arizona, which has no water to speak of, and looks to have less every year for the foreseeable future; Houston, which is ground zero for massive flooding associated with hurricanes; Taiwan, which has frequent earthquakes and typhoons, not to mention being in Beijing’s crosshairs)?
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  • Reply 45 of 65
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    sunman42 said:
    Why is it the big corporations keep building fabs or factories in the worst of all possible places (south-central Arizona, which has no water to speak of, and looks to have less every year for the foreseeable future; Houston, which is ground zero for massive flooding associated with hurricanes; Taiwan, which has frequent earthquakes and typhoons, not to mention being in Beijing’s crosshairs)?
    Cheap land, access to cheap power, and local governments agreeing to give them massive rebates to build there? The NC datacenter was very close to a hydro-electric plant IIRC.
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  • Reply 46 of 65
    rob53 said:
    Why in Texas? People thought Apple's products were getting too expensive, just wait for products coming out of Texas. They will break everyone's budget. Who in Texas will actually work at this manufacturing facility? Will everything be automated? Where will the people for these 20K come from, India? Who's going to build the facility? Not the hardest workers from south of the border. trump made sure of that.
    It’s a server farm. No physical products are gonna be built there. Way to show that you didn’t read the article. 
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  • Reply 47 of 65
    cpsro said:
    9secondkox2 said:
    Oh, Tax cuts are bad thing now? LOL

    Tax cuts are tax cuts. Not increased. That’s a great thing. 

    Tax cuts are good for everyone. And before you cry about wealthy people getting a big break, you have to realize how tax brackets work and how much of a ripoff taxes are currently. Recently took a big career jump. Pay went up by 25,000/year. 
    Was so excited. Then I got my first paycheck. Was the same as before. All due to my new friend, Mr. New tax bracket. So I’m genuinely happy for anyone and everyone (including wealthy people) who get a tax break. The bracket system needs to disappear. 

    And if corporations get a big tax break, that’s a win for literally everyone as they save money and don’t have to keep jacking up prices to stay profitable. 
    Tax cuts without spending cuts are a bad thing and not funny at all. The GOP/Trump 2017 tax cuts are responsible for 25% of the national debt, because no commensurate spending cuts were made. Yes, tax revenue is up, but government spending is up far more. Those tax cuts contributed to inflation, because they put non-existent money in everyone's pocket. The result is: Trump is the world's biggest spender. Corporations were doing just fine before the 2017 cuts and unemployment was at a good level, too, of about 3%. What the cuts allowed was for corporations to buy back shares--which they had promised not to do--which helped make the wealthy even wealthier and everyone else poorer. As has also been noted here, the wealthy have far more options for avoiding taxes than middle-income earners do. Trump didn't bankrupt two casinos without more than a little ineptitude. The supposed savings so far by DOGE are highly exaggerated, inaccurately characterized, opaque (not transparent at all), risky, chaotic, self-serving for Musk and other corporations, and wholly insufficient to justify maintaining the 2017 cuts. Oh, did I mention that the "process" Musk/DOGE is using is also illegal? It's illegal. Congress passed the 1946 Administrative Procedures Act and the 1974 Impoundment Policies Act that establish how Congressionally authorized expenditures are to be reviewed and potentially modified. Trump has done nothing to help ease inflation, which I believe was his number one priority. His immigration efforts are also not doing well and are a mess, with Obama and Biden having performed better without the unnecessary hoopla.
    cpsro said:
    9secondkox2 said:
    Oh, Tax cuts are bad thing now? LOL

    Tax cuts are tax cuts. Not increased. That’s a great thing. 

    Tax cuts are good for everyone. And before you cry about wealthy people getting a big break, you have to realize how tax brackets work and how much of a ripoff taxes are currently. Recently took a big career jump. Pay went up by 25,000/year. 
    Was so excited. Then I got my first paycheck. Was the same as before. All due to my new friend, Mr. New tax bracket. So I’m genuinely happy for anyone and everyone (including wealthy people) who get a tax break. The bracket system needs to disappear. 

    And if corporations get a big tax break, that’s a win for literally everyone as they save money and don’t have to keep jacking up prices to stay profitable. 
    Tax cuts without spending cuts are a bad thing and not funny at all. The GOP/Trump 2017 tax cuts are responsible for 25% of the national debt, because no commensurate spending cuts were made. Yes, tax revenue is up, but government spending is up far more. Those tax cuts contributed to inflation, because they put non-existent money in everyone's pocket. The result is: Trump is the world's biggest spender. Corporations were doing just fine before the 2017 cuts and unemployment was at a good level, too, of about 3%. What the cuts allowed was for corporations to buy back shares--which they had promised not to do--which helped make the wealthy even wealthier and everyone else poorer. As has also been noted here, the wealthy have far more options for avoiding taxes than middle-income earners do. Trump didn't bankrupt two casinos without more than a little ineptitude. The supposed savings so far by DOGE are highly exaggerated, inaccurately characterized, opaque (not transparent at all), risky, chaotic, self-serving for Musk and other corporations, and wholly insufficient to justify maintaining the 2017 cuts. Oh, did I mention that the "process" Musk/DOGE is using is also illegal? It's illegal. Congress passed the 1946 Administrative Procedures Act and the 1974 Impoundment Policies Act that establish how Congressionally authorized expenditures are to be reviewed and potentially modified. Trump has done nothing to help ease inflation, which I believe was his number one priority. His immigration efforts are also not doing well and are a mess, with Obama and Biden having performed better without the unnecessary hoopla.
    Tax cuts are tax cuts. 

    That’s always a good thing. 

    And the out of control and irresponsible spending is being slashed massively by the current admin. 

    So a good thing gets better. 

    It’s a win for everybody - except corrupt grifters feasting on misappropriated funds. 

    So once again, Apple is making great moves as they feel confident to do so. And Texas is a fantastic place to do so. Tax cuts for Apple mean cheaper products for us. Win-win. 
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  • Reply 48 of 65
    Wow, never seen so many gloom and doom comments. I guess Apple should announce they have changed their mind and will be investing $500 billion in Europe or Asia. 

    Geeish, sounds like a bunch of “know it all’s”, I believe Apple will hire the most qualified people. So how many people on this site are job creators? If so, you have my respect and thanks. 

    I for one think all these new investments in America is a good thing. 
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  • Reply 49 of 65
    cpsro said:
    9secondkox2 said:
    Oh, Tax cuts are bad thing now? LOL

    Tax cuts are tax cuts. Not increased. That’s a great thing. 

    Tax cuts are good for everyone. And before you cry about wealthy people getting a big break, you have to realize how tax brackets work and how much of a ripoff taxes are currently. Recently took a big career jump. Pay went up by 25,000/year. 
    Was so excited. Then I got my first paycheck. Was the same as before. All due to my new friend, Mr. New tax bracket. So I’m genuinely happy for anyone and everyone (including wealthy people) who get a tax break. The bracket system needs to disappear. 

    And if corporations get a big tax break, that’s a win for literally everyone as they save money and don’t have to keep jacking up prices to stay profitable. 
    Tax cuts without spending cuts are a bad thing and not funny at all. The GOP/Trump 2017 tax cuts are responsible for 25% of the national debt, because no commensurate spending cuts were made. Yes, tax revenue is up, but government spending is up far more. Those tax cuts contributed to inflation, because they put non-existent money in everyone's pocket. The result is: Trump is the world's biggest spender. Corporations were doing just fine before the 2017 cuts and unemployment was at a good level, too, of about 3%. What the cuts allowed was for corporations to buy back shares--which they had promised not to do--which helped make the wealthy even wealthier and everyone else poorer. As has also been noted here, the wealthy have far more options for avoiding taxes than middle-income earners do. Trump didn't bankrupt two casinos without more than a little ineptitude. The supposed savings so far by DOGE are highly exaggerated, inaccurately characterized, opaque (not transparent at all), risky, chaotic, self-serving for Musk and other corporations, and wholly insufficient to justify maintaining the 2017 cuts. Oh, did I mention that the "process" Musk/DOGE is using is also illegal? It's illegal. Congress passed the 1946 Administrative Procedures Act and the 1974 Impoundment Policies Act that establish how Congressionally authorized expenditures are to be reviewed and potentially modified. Trump has done nothing to help ease inflation, which I believe was his number one priority. His immigration efforts are also not doing well and are a mess, with Obama and Biden having performed better without the unnecessary hoopla.
    cpsro said:
    9secondkox2 said:
    Oh, Tax cuts are bad thing now? LOL

    Tax cuts are tax cuts. Not increased. That’s a great thing. 

    Tax cuts are good for everyone. And before you cry about wealthy people getting a big break, you have to realize how tax brackets work and how much of a ripoff taxes are currently. Recently took a big career jump. Pay went up by 25,000/year. 
    Was so excited. Then I got my first paycheck. Was the same as before. All due to my new friend, Mr. New tax bracket. So I’m genuinely happy for anyone and everyone (including wealthy people) who get a tax break. The bracket system needs to disappear. 

    And if corporations get a big tax break, that’s a win for literally everyone as they save money and don’t have to keep jacking up prices to stay profitable. 
    Tax cuts without spending cuts are a bad thing and not funny at all. The GOP/Trump 2017 tax cuts are responsible for 25% of the national debt, because no commensurate spending cuts were made. Yes, tax revenue is up, but government spending is up far more. Those tax cuts contributed to inflation, because they put non-existent money in everyone's pocket. The result is: Trump is the world's biggest spender. Corporations were doing just fine before the 2017 cuts and unemployment was at a good level, too, of about 3%. What the cuts allowed was for corporations to buy back shares--which they had promised not to do--which helped make the wealthy even wealthier and everyone else poorer. As has also been noted here, the wealthy have far more options for avoiding taxes than middle-income earners do. Trump didn't bankrupt two casinos without more than a little ineptitude. The supposed savings so far by DOGE are highly exaggerated, inaccurately characterized, opaque (not transparent at all), risky, chaotic, self-serving for Musk and other corporations, and wholly insufficient to justify maintaining the 2017 cuts. Oh, did I mention that the "process" Musk/DOGE is using is also illegal? It's illegal. Congress passed the 1946 Administrative Procedures Act and the 1974 Impoundment Policies Act that establish how Congressionally authorized expenditures are to be reviewed and potentially modified. Trump has done nothing to help ease inflation, which I believe was his number one priority. His immigration efforts are also not doing well and are a mess, with Obama and Biden having performed better without the unnecessary hoopla.
    Tax cuts are tax cuts. 

    That’s always a good thing. 

    And the out of control and irresponsible spending is being slashed massively by the current admin. 

    So a good thing gets better. 

    It’s a win for everybody - except corrupt grifters feasting on misappropriated funds. 

    So once again, Apple is making great moves as they feel confident to do so. And Texas is a fantastic place to do so. Tax cuts for Apple mean cheaper products for us. Win-win. 

    The current administration can't even tell you what spending they have cut and the few claims they have made have turned out to be false. We do know there has been mass layoffs but the federal workforce makes up about 1% of the federal budget so the layoffs don't amount to much. So when. you say spending is  "being slashed massively", you making a claim without any evidence whatsoever. 

    If we look at what is happening in Congress, the branch of government that actually does appropriations, we will see there is a spending bill in each house. The Senate has one that cuts spending by 1.5 trillion and cuts taxes by 4.5 trillion. This is basic math, and that basic math shows that they are creating 3 trillion in deficit spending. The House also wants to cut taxes by 4.5 trillion and cut spending by 2 trillion (mostly medicaid, Affordable Care Act and SNAP). So the House would only create 2.5 billion in deficit spending, 

    So your "always a good thing" where "everyone wins" will plunge the country into further debt by trillions of dollars, and harm lower income people and children. It's basically a win-win if you are fiscally irresponsible person that is also a raging asshole. 

    The moves Apple is making were planned out long ago, this is a performance for Trump to avoid tariffs. It is a repeat of what they did in 2018 and in 2021. There are almost identical press releases in both years and the audience was the Trump and Biden administrations respectively. They aren't doing anything they wouldn't have been doing if Harris was president. 

    Lastly, there is no, as in zero, provable correlation between price index and corporate tax cuts. Further, Apple got a massive tax cut in 2018 and was able to repatriate billions of dollars in cash at a lower tax rate. Which products went down in price? Which one's got cheaper? None. Their profits did go up  though. 

    It is a shame that hat our electorate is as poorly informed as you are. 
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  • Reply 50 of 65

    proof143 said:
    Wow, never seen so many gloom and doom comments. I guess Apple should announce they have changed their mind and will be investing $500 billion in Europe or Asia. 

    Geeish, sounds like a bunch of “know it all’s”, I believe Apple will hire the most qualified people. So how many people on this site are job creators? If so, you have my respect and thanks. 

    I for one think all these new investments in America is a good thing. 
    Let me explain out capitalism works. It is a series of inputs and outputs. A company produces a product(s) and consumers buy that product(s). If there is demand for product(s) the company uses the money to make more. They are not investing money or hiring out of the goodness of their heart they are doing it to make more money.

    Apple is a company. Apple produces products. Consumers buy those products and Apple invests in making more products using the money they get from consumers. The people commenting here are consumers of Apple products. Apple couldn't "create" jobs without the money from consumers. So, we are responsible for those jobs being created. You are welcome and we appreciate your respect. 
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  • Reply 51 of 65
    longfang said:
    rob53 said:
    Why in Texas? People thought Apple's products were getting too expensive, just wait for products coming out of Texas. They will break everyone's budget. Who in Texas will actually work at this manufacturing facility? Will everything be automated? Where will the people for these 20K come from, India? Who's going to build the facility? Not the hardest workers from south of the border. trump made sure of that.
    It’s a server farm. No physical products are gonna be built there. Way to show that you didn’t read the article. 
    Quotes form the article:
    "The Houston facility will specifically be for the production of servers"
    "Opening a new advanced manufacturing facility in Houston"
    "the company says that it also intends to continue 'expanding data center capacity in North Carolina, Iowa, Oregon, Arizona, and Nevada.'

    It sounds whole lot like they are producing servers in Houston for use in data centers elsewhere. You know, because the words "production" and "manufacturing" were used in reference in Houston and Texas wasn't on the list of locations with data centers. 

    Way to show that you didn't read the article 


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  • Reply 52 of 65
    AppleZuluapplezulu Posts: 2,346member
    cpsro said:
    9secondkox2 said:
    Oh, Tax cuts are bad thing now? LOL

    Tax cuts are tax cuts. Not increased. That’s a great thing. 

    Tax cuts are good for everyone. And before you cry about wealthy people getting a big break, you have to realize how tax brackets work and how much of a ripoff taxes are currently. Recently took a big career jump. Pay went up by 25,000/year. 
    Was so excited. Then I got my first paycheck. Was the same as before. All due to my new friend, Mr. New tax bracket. So I’m genuinely happy for anyone and everyone (including wealthy people) who get a tax break. The bracket system needs to disappear. 

    And if corporations get a big tax break, that’s a win for literally everyone as they save money and don’t have to keep jacking up prices to stay profitable. 
    Tax cuts without spending cuts are a bad thing and not funny at all. The GOP/Trump 2017 tax cuts are responsible for 25% of the national debt, because no commensurate spending cuts were made. Yes, tax revenue is up, but government spending is up far more. Those tax cuts contributed to inflation, because they put non-existent money in everyone's pocket. The result is: Trump is the world's biggest spender. Corporations were doing just fine before the 2017 cuts and unemployment was at a good level, too, of about 3%. What the cuts allowed was for corporations to buy back shares--which they had promised not to do--which helped make the wealthy even wealthier and everyone else poorer. As has also been noted here, the wealthy have far more options for avoiding taxes than middle-income earners do. Trump didn't bankrupt two casinos without more than a little ineptitude. The supposed savings so far by DOGE are highly exaggerated, inaccurately characterized, opaque (not transparent at all), risky, chaotic, self-serving for Musk and other corporations, and wholly insufficient to justify maintaining the 2017 cuts. Oh, did I mention that the "process" Musk/DOGE is using is also illegal? It's illegal. Congress passed the 1946 Administrative Procedures Act and the 1974 Impoundment Policies Act that establish how Congressionally authorized expenditures are to be reviewed and potentially modified. Trump has done nothing to help ease inflation, which I believe was his number one priority. His immigration efforts are also not doing well and are a mess, with Obama and Biden having performed better without the unnecessary hoopla.
    cpsro said:
    9secondkox2 said:
    Oh, Tax cuts are bad thing now? LOL

    Tax cuts are tax cuts. Not increased. That’s a great thing. 

    Tax cuts are good for everyone. And before you cry about wealthy people getting a big break, you have to realize how tax brackets work and how much of a ripoff taxes are currently. Recently took a big career jump. Pay went up by 25,000/year. 
    Was so excited. Then I got my first paycheck. Was the same as before. All due to my new friend, Mr. New tax bracket. So I’m genuinely happy for anyone and everyone (including wealthy people) who get a tax break. The bracket system needs to disappear. 

    And if corporations get a big tax break, that’s a win for literally everyone as they save money and don’t have to keep jacking up prices to stay profitable. 
    Tax cuts without spending cuts are a bad thing and not funny at all. The GOP/Trump 2017 tax cuts are responsible for 25% of the national debt, because no commensurate spending cuts were made. Yes, tax revenue is up, but government spending is up far more. Those tax cuts contributed to inflation, because they put non-existent money in everyone's pocket. The result is: Trump is the world's biggest spender. Corporations were doing just fine before the 2017 cuts and unemployment was at a good level, too, of about 3%. What the cuts allowed was for corporations to buy back shares--which they had promised not to do--which helped make the wealthy even wealthier and everyone else poorer. As has also been noted here, the wealthy have far more options for avoiding taxes than middle-income earners do. Trump didn't bankrupt two casinos without more than a little ineptitude. The supposed savings so far by DOGE are highly exaggerated, inaccurately characterized, opaque (not transparent at all), risky, chaotic, self-serving for Musk and other corporations, and wholly insufficient to justify maintaining the 2017 cuts. Oh, did I mention that the "process" Musk/DOGE is using is also illegal? It's illegal. Congress passed the 1946 Administrative Procedures Act and the 1974 Impoundment Policies Act that establish how Congressionally authorized expenditures are to be reviewed and potentially modified. Trump has done nothing to help ease inflation, which I believe was his number one priority. His immigration efforts are also not doing well and are a mess, with Obama and Biden having performed better without the unnecessary hoopla.
    Tax cuts are tax cuts. 

    That’s always a good thing. 

    And the out of control and irresponsible spending is being slashed massively by the current admin. 

    So a good thing gets better. 

    It’s a win for everybody - except corrupt grifters feasting on misappropriated funds. 

    So once again, Apple is making great moves as they feel confident to do so. And Texas is a fantastic place to do so. Tax cuts for Apple mean cheaper products for us. Win-win. 
    If you’d ever worked someplace where a new manager comes in, slashing budgets, reorganizing and laying off employees, doing it all with an arrogant hostility to anyone with actual expertise, you’d know that this never ends well. 

    Tax cuts can be good and also moronically bad. Slashing resources needed by multitudes just to cut taxes for the ultra wealthy is moronically bad. 

    Apple is just trying to navigate the chaos. And for the record, chaos created by leadership is never good. 
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  • Reply 53 of 65
    jfabula1 said:
    Like so much of a bribery victim's fealty, this will amount to no investment, no jobs, but plenty of time for T**** (the convicted felon and sexual predator) to lead his boy Cook around on a leash.
    At least his trying instead of giving away your earned tax dollars. Get over it dude, you’re still crying of your election lost.
    Tim will worked harder for this great American tax paying company. 
    Sounds like you're not aware that the GOP plans on doing a $4.5 trillion tax cut that primarily benefits corporations and the wealthy. They're going to extend the $2 trillion cut from 2017 and add another $2.5 trillion on top. Keep in mind that the $2 trillion cut from 2017 was in place during the entire Biden administration. So if you didn't like the Biden economy,  the ineffectiveness of that tax cut was part of it. 
    Oh, Tax cuts are bad thing now? LOL

    Tax cuts are tax cuts. Not increased. That’s a great thing. 

    Tax cuts are good for everyone. And before you cry about wealthy people getting a big break, you have to realize how tax brackets work and how much of a ripoff taxes are currently. Recently took a big career jump. Pay went up by 25,000/year. 
    Was so excited. Then I got my first paycheck. Was the same as before. All due to my new friend, Mr. New tax bracket. So I’m genuinely happy for anyone and everyone (including wealthy people) who get a tax break. The bracket system needs to disappear. 

    And if corporations get a big tax break, that’s a win for literally everyone as they save money and don’t have to keep jacking up prices to stay profitable. 

    Also, can you imagine durvivg the Biden economy without the previous admin tax cuts in place, sheesh. That definitely helped. It was bidenomics inflation that everyone hated. Not the previous tax cuts that helped most folks stay somewhat afloat during the last four years. 

    Apple is making moves and investments now that were unheard of the last four years. Sure looks like they’ve got confidence now that they didn’t have for years. 
    "Tax cuts are good for everyone." Thanks for providing a great example of how some schools fail miserably at teaching civics, government, finance, macro economics, and basic math. Sycophancy wasn't taught in the schools I went to, but I'd give an A+ for the quoted comment in that department. 
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  • Reply 54 of 65
    As others have noted (with citations and links), this plan has been in the works since long before the election. It has everything to do with China and nothing to do with tariffs or Mexico. 
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  • Reply 55 of 65
    Yeah, it was Trump. Because this hasn't been in the planning stages for a year or more.
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  • Reply 56 of 65
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,642member
    proof143 said:
    Wow, never seen so many gloom and doom comments. I guess Apple should announce they have changed their mind and will be investing $500 billion in Europe or Asia. 

    Geeish, sounds like a bunch of “know it all’s”, I believe Apple will hire the most qualified people. So how many people on this site are job creators? If so, you have my respect and thanks. 

    I for one think all these new investments in America is a good thing. 

    If you plan on visiting Texas, make sure that everyone in your family has had their vaccine for measles because they certainly don’t give a damn down there, and when I say have your vaccine, I mean, make sure that everyone in your family even those that won’t even be going to Texas, if you plan going to seeing them again, make sure particularly if there are any females in the family in the child bearing years.

    https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/02/texas-measles-outbreak-may-have-spread-to-new-mexico-total-cases-near-100/ And if you could avoid it, don’t drive through Northwest Texas.

    It’s good that Apple is doing this, because I believe in the end, they will sell servers to the public because there will be a demand for them, however Eastern Oregon somewhere around Bend, Oregon, or Prineville, Oregon would have been better, although eastern Oregon probably suffers from the same vaccine avoidance.

    https://www.datacenters.com/apple-inc-prineville Apple already has a facility there, relatively close to the Columbia river and Oregon is attached to the national grid Texas is not.
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  • Reply 57 of 65
    Sorry, Apple is much too late! xAI and Tesla are way ahead and no one can compete with Elon Musk! Working at Apple is not cool anymore. 
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  • Reply 58 of 65
    Tim is a smarter businessman than Trump. He knows how to win while making the other guy think he did. 
    That's for sure.  It's also a good political move given the current environment.  Trump does actually care if there is any investment just as long as he can boast he made it happen.

    I also think this could be a segue into selling AI compatible servers.  The M chips are getting to the power levels needed and the energy usage is much better than the Nvidia versions.  
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  • Reply 59 of 65
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,642member
    ilarynx said:
    As others have noted (with citations and links), this plan has been in the works since long before the election. It has everything to do with China and nothing to do with tariffs or Mexico. 

    Well China did get their 10% discount in comparison to to our so-called friends Canada and Mexico, and China also got to vote with us along with Russia in the U.N. so I guess you’re happy with that too…. Viva la France thank you Macron setting the record straight.
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  • Reply 60 of 65
    dewmedewme Posts: 5,956member
    The only thing that really matters is if the project actually gets completed and is put into production.

    Who gets to claim credit is a triviality that is meaningless to pragmatists.
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