Health app's future AI assistant will tell you how to keep fit

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The Apple Health app could offer AI-based coaching to users in a similar way to a real doctor, with food tracking also likely to be a big feature in a future app update.

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The Health app is used as a central store for a user's health metrics. Compiling together data collected from hardware like the Apple Watch and from its own sensors to give users an overall view of their fitness and health.

While the current app can identify and notify on trends and other insights, a future version of the app could offer a lot more help. Thanks to the use of artificial intelligence.

According to Mark Gurman in Bloomberg's newsletter on Sunday, Apple is working on Project Mulberry. An initiative to rework the Health app as well as adding a health coach.

The idea is that a new AI agent would monitor the data in the Health app and provide feedback to the user on how to improve their health. This will apparently work to offer advice similar to how a real doctor would to a patient.

Apple is reportedly training the AI with data from in-house physicians. It is also planning to work with outside experts on sleep, nutrition, physical therapy, mental health, and cardiology.

Those experts will provide video content for the app, to educate users on topics such as heart disease or ways to improve their lifestyle. This will all be filmed at a new Apple facility near Oakland, California.

A major medical personality is apparently being sought by Apple, who will be the host of the app's extra services. This could be under the title of "Health+."

As for when the new app could arrive, Gurman writes that a release could happen as early as iOS 19.4, or about a year away.

Beyond doctors



While the main feature of the revised app would be the AI assistant, there are also other changes on the horizon, according to the newsletter.

Food tracking will be an important element, expanding on the existing limited nutrition feature of the Health app. While Gurman doesn't say what will be changed, it will apparently see Apple going against other established food tracking services, such as MyFitnessPal.

The AI agent will also apparently help users with nutritional needs.

Apple is also planning on improving how users actually work out.

It is proposed that Apple could use cameras on the back of the iPhone or iPad to capture footage of users working out. The AI agent could then study the workouts and provide tips to improve their technique.

This goes beyond the current Apple Watch-based Fitness+ workouts, which monitor the motion of the wearable, to give more practical workout advice. It may also be integrated into the Fitness+ platform itself.

A long workout



Apple has been working on the concept of enhanced health and fitness tools for a number of years already. Previously known as Project Quartz, this has included claims over the years that Apple has been working on using machine learning and AI to offer a coaching service to users.

Despite the lengthy development time, the AI health agent could offer Apple a near-term win versus waiting for hardware changes.

Apple has been working on features such as a non-invasive glucose monitor and blood pressure monitoring for the Apple Watch for many years. However, technical roadblocks have repeatedly caused problems for its development.

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  • Reply 1 of 19
    DAalsethdaalseth Posts: 3,297member
    No, I’ll pass
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  • Reply 2 of 19
    DAalseth said:
    No, I’ll pass
    Why?
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  • Reply 3 of 19
    jSnivelyjsnively Posts: 463administrator
    This actually seems like one of the more useful applications of AI 👍
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  • Reply 4 of 19
    DAalsethdaalseth Posts: 3,297member
    DAalseth said:
    No, I’ll pass
    Why?
    The idea according to the article is to be “a new AI agent would monitor the data in the Health app and provide feedback to the user on how to improve their health. This will apparently work to offer advice similar to how a real doctor would to a patient.”
    Considering how many truly idiotic mistakes AI systems make there’s no way I would trust it. Maybe in 20-30 years, but today? Hell no we’re still at the stage where AI systems recommend adding glue to pizza sauce. 
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  • Reply 5 of 19
    DAalseth said:
    DAalseth said:
    No, I’ll pass
    Why?
    The idea according to the article is to be “a new AI agent would monitor the data in the Health app and provide feedback to the user on how to improve their health. This will apparently work to offer advice similar to how a real doctor would to a patient.”
    Considering how many truly idiotic mistakes AI systems make there’s no way I would trust it. Maybe in 20-30 years, but today? Hell no we’re still at the stage where AI systems recommend adding glue to pizza sauce. 
    …and heads of state suggest bleach to treat viral infections. 🙄
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  • Reply 6 of 19
    DAalsethdaalseth Posts: 3,297member
    DAalseth said:
    DAalseth said:
    No, I’ll pass
    Why?
    The idea according to the article is to be “a new AI agent would monitor the data in the Health app and provide feedback to the user on how to improve their health. This will apparently work to offer advice similar to how a real doctor would to a patient.”
    Considering how many truly idiotic mistakes AI systems make there’s no way I would trust it. Maybe in 20-30 years, but today? Hell no we’re still at the stage where AI systems recommend adding glue to pizza sauce. 
    …and heads of state suggest bleach to treat viral infections. 🙄
    LOL, yeah we do seem to be entering the Age of Stupid. 
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  • Reply 7 of 19
    DAalseth said:
    DAalseth said:
    DAalseth said:
    No, I’ll pass
    Why?
    The idea according to the article is to be “a new AI agent would monitor the data in the Health app and provide feedback to the user on how to improve their health. This will apparently work to offer advice similar to how a real doctor would to a patient.”
    Considering how many truly idiotic mistakes AI systems make there’s no way I would trust it. Maybe in 20-30 years, but today? Hell no we’re still at the stage where AI systems recommend adding glue to pizza sauce. 
    …and heads of state suggest bleach to treat viral infections. 🙄
    LOL, yeah we do seem to be entering the Age of Stupid. 
    Indeed! Yet I also agree with @jsnively, it might be good advice.
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  • Reply 8 of 19
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,658member
    Grrat idea. Hope it becomes reality. 
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  • Reply 9 of 19
    michelb76michelb76 Posts: 769member
    Pretty sure this will be very, very tame. In the lines of 'you should start doing exercise', 'go to bed earlier' etc. This will be very good advice for the majority of people.
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  • Reply 10 of 19
    saareksaarek Posts: 1,642member
    I often think that Apple is missing a massive trick with their Health/Apple Fitness programme.

    They should have exercises specifically suited to the super obese who are going to try and get into better shape. The vast majority of what Apple offers is for those whom are already super fit. The rest seems aimed at people with standard body weights who want a gentler session.
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  • Reply 11 of 19
    anonymouseanonymouse Posts: 7,122member
    DAalseth said:
    DAalseth said:
    No, I’ll pass
    Why?
    The idea according to the article is to be “a new AI agent would monitor the data in the Health app and provide feedback to the user on how to improve their health. This will apparently work to offer advice similar to how a real doctor would to a patient.”
    Considering how many truly idiotic mistakes AI systems make there’s no way I would trust it. Maybe in 20-30 years, but today? Hell no we’re still at the stage where AI systems recommend adding glue to pizza sauce. 
    Seriously, how hard can this be to get right — "offer advice similar to how a real doctor would to a patient" —considering how bad a job most doctors do of it? In fact, you'd probably be much better off with even today's AIs monitoring your health than today's doctors.
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  • Reply 12 of 19
    Hard pass. Worth a class action suit.
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  • Reply 13 of 19
    michelb76 said:
    Pretty sure this will be very, very tame. In the lines of 'you should start doing exercise', 'go to bed earlier' etc. This will be very good advice for the majority of people.
    It already has that feature.
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  • Reply 14 of 19
    DAalsethdaalseth Posts: 3,297member
    DAalseth said:
    DAalseth said:
    No, I’ll pass
    Why?
    The idea according to the article is to be “a new AI agent would monitor the data in the Health app and provide feedback to the user on how to improve their health. This will apparently work to offer advice similar to how a real doctor would to a patient.”
    Considering how many truly idiotic mistakes AI systems make there’s no way I would trust it. Maybe in 20-30 years, but today? Hell no we’re still at the stage where AI systems recommend adding glue to pizza sauce. 
    Seriously, how hard can this be to get right — "offer advice similar to how a real doctor would to a patient" —considering how bad a job most doctors do of it? In fact, you'd probably be much better off with even today's AIs monitoring your health than today's doctors.
    Then you need to find another doctor. Mine is very good, gives great insights, and has provided some good prospectives on what I’m experiencing. My previous doctor, now retired, was who figured out that I didn’t have a food allergy, rather it was cancer. Every one I’ve worked with, GP, ophthalmologist, surgeons, oncologists, have been very good. 
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  • Reply 15 of 19
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 8,324member
    I was surprised that this wasn't already part of the health app.

    My wife and I have had this on our Huawei Health apps for sometime but we don't use the AI planning as it's a subscription service add-on. 

    It may be a good as a 'prod' to take action and track it as you get back to better health but there is only so much AI can do with limited data.

    In our case the system can be tweaked to focus on certain areas of the body and there are a ton of possible suggestions together with the ability to punch in what food and quantities we are ingesting.

    If course, it helps to have add-on devices working in tandem with the Health software too. 

    We have watches for some health metrics and a smart scales as well.

    Perhaps, if we were in need of serious prodding, we would take out an AI subscription but our reality is that we are already as healthy as we can be given our ages and medical health (non-alcoholic fatty liver, cardiac events and type 1 diabetes). 

    Chemically, we are the best we've ever been but age itself means that 'mechanically' we are going to run into problems that no AI programme will ever solve. As it is, we already have specialists arguing about what is best for certain conditions as they will often focus on their specialty and ignore the rest. Then it's up to the family doctor to 'tie' everything together and make sense of it all. 

    AI is great for pattern analysis but it needs clean, very personalised data to offer more and that brings other issues such as data integrity, privacy and ultimately, security. 

    I would love to be able to pump my decades worth of accumulated health data into AI and have it crunch away and make a forecast on the coming years (something that to a large degree would have to be taken with a grain of salt). 

    That though could have the ability to warn people of potential chronic lifestyle issues such as type 2 diabetes. 

    My brother would probably have benefitted from that as he would have been more receptive of an AI-data-driven results than hearing my mother tell him he was overdoing the BBQs. 

    It was only when he was carted of by ambulance that he changed his lifestyle for the good but lifestyle illnesses are years in the making and years in the correcting. 

    It is a nice feature to have even with the limitations of what current AI can do but for sure things will improve over time. 


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  • Reply 16 of 19
    DAalsethdaalseth Posts: 3,297member
    Example: There’s a story on another site that I read a couple of days ago. The poster said that they went to their dentist and the hygienist mentioned that their gums bled a lot during the cleaning and flossing. They said the person needed to improve their oral care. This person was a bit offended because they made a point of brushing and flossing, and using an oral rinse twice a day. The dentist came in and talked with them, and looked over the report and noted the bleeding. Out of the blue he started asking about the poster’s diet, especially fruits and vegetables. It turned out this person was a student that was living on pasta and such. The dentist looked at them and said they had the first signs of scurvy, and needed to eat more fruits and veg. The story ended with the person saying that they had adjusted their diet, their gums stopped bleeding, their mood improved, and their grades were getting better. All because their dentist had a hunch.

    This is exactly the kind of thing a real doctor can do, and an AI will never pick up.
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  • Reply 17 of 19
    DAalseth said:
    Example: There’s a story on another site that I read a couple of days ago. The poster said that they went to their dentist and the hygienist mentioned that their gums bled a lot during the cleaning and flossing. They said the person needed to improve their oral care. This person was a bit offended because they made a point of brushing and flossing, and using an oral rinse twice a day. The dentist came in and talked with them, and looked over the report and noted the bleeding. Out of the blue he started asking about the poster’s diet, especially fruits and vegetables. It turned out this person was a student that was living on pasta and such. The dentist looked at them and said they had the first signs of scurvy, and needed to eat more fruits and veg. The story ended with the person saying that they had adjusted their diet, their gums stopped bleeding, their mood improved, and their grades were getting better. All because their dentist had a hunch.

    This is exactly the kind of thing a real doctor can do, and an AI will never pick up.
    Nice story, but does that mean we should forgo the potential benefit that AI might bring to health? Probably worth having both.

    In fact I just tried AI on you scenario. It did well: See https://www.perplexity.ai/search/if-a-student-has-bleeding-gums-tbibelbERz2P6eelAAzCnQ
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  • Reply 18 of 19
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 8,324member
    DAalseth said:
    Example: There’s a story on another site that I read a couple of days ago. The poster said that they went to their dentist and the hygienist mentioned that their gums bled a lot during the cleaning and flossing. They said the person needed to improve their oral care. This person was a bit offended because they made a point of brushing and flossing, and using an oral rinse twice a day. The dentist came in and talked with them, and looked over the report and noted the bleeding. Out of the blue he started asking about the poster’s diet, especially fruits and vegetables. It turned out this person was a student that was living on pasta and such. The dentist looked at them and said they had the first signs of scurvy, and needed to eat more fruits and veg. The story ended with the person saying that they had adjusted their diet, their gums stopped bleeding, their mood improved, and their grades were getting better. All because their dentist had a hunch.

    This is exactly the kind of thing a real doctor can do, and an AI will never pick up.
    To be fair in this case, AI could do a decent job in spotting the issue even before it reached an advanced stage. It would all depend on the data it was given. Failings in diet can be easily flagged and even image recognition could be used in some cases. 

    At the moment real intelligence can be the common sense go-to instead of artificial intelligence in many cases but for the task of general health there is no reason the two can't work together with success, but like I said before, it's going to need data. 
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  • Reply 19 of 19
    Wesley_Hilliardwesley_hilliard Posts: 599member, administrator, moderator, editor
    80% of most doctor's jobs is to tell you to take medicine and come back in 10 days if it's still doing what it is. (because most non critical things go away in a week to 10 days)

    No way this is a "doctor." But I could see it being useful. Apple Health has a ton of data. I'd label it more as a coach, which I'm pretty certain has been rumored before.

    AI is overhyped, but it is a great data organizer. I've heard of several people dumping their data into an AI app to glean useful data. One story I read had a person discover a disease and treatment thanks to AI analysis that real doctors didn't catch over three years of appointments and tests.

    That doesn't mean it isn't foolproof. Like with anything, understand that it can get things wrong. And know that this will not diagnose anything, but could recommend an appointment or ways to mitigate things. Some people just aren't aware of their bad habits, so having a tool that warns you is useful.

    However, it does mean that the data still needs to get into the health app. Apple needs to help revolutionize and prioritize that. I track food, but even as streamlined as it is today, it's still more work than most people would be willing to do.

    I wonder if this means Apple Health will get more abilities to log information directly. Sorry Foodnoms, you might get sherlocked.
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