This thread will be an interesting watch when Apple follows through. Last time they said they’d build in America we got the max pro. Probably the pinnacle of computing at the time.
And we know Apple is serious about AI. With corrupt governments trying to harm Apple as much as possible, things are aligning for Apple to keep their word on this investment. And there’s probably no more favorable a state to do so than Texas.
Would also go a long way toward alleviating the appearance of investing too much in China.
Kinda doubt it’s business as usual. Guess time will tell. That’s the only way we know for sure.
Shhhh.... Don't tell the Dotard. He thinks he just pulled off an amazing deal....
Yeah, the dotard who conducted the greatest comeback in political history---despite the full force of the US government, media and majority of leftist global powers against him. I understand why leftists don't like Trump, disagree with him or even hate him. But I'll never understand how they think he's stupid.
Exactly right, Trump is a deal maker and even if Apple already planned to do all this US investment at least Trump got him to commit to it publicly and now everyone knows. What is so bad about Trump and Tim talking about this and making an announcement- it’s good for everyone to know this especially the millions of Apple haters out there. People on the left, after all these years, still do not understand that President Trump is first and foremost a deal maker. He does it with countries, companies and people ( he did it recently with AI and will do the same with Ukraine). Even Mark Cuban who is not Trump fan said he is the best at it.
I don't think a guy who bankrupted not one but two casinos is exactly a dealmaker. Trump shuttle, steaks and vodka all failed. Trump University was shuttered for fraud, as was the Trump Foundation. He is a shameless self-promoter and opportunist, but not a dealmaker. His reputation as a dealmaker comes from a book and a TV show. The ghostwriter of the book is on record regretting ever having written it, because of its false portrayal of Trump as an astute businessman. The TV show has been shown to be a fictional fabrication as well, from scripts and editing to make Trump seem decisive and competent, to the fake boardroom created because the actual Trump Org offices were unusably slipshod and tacky. The show was a lifeline for Trump, providing income when he'd run his own businesses into the ground and his father was no longer around to bail him out. Ironically, Joe Biden's most disastrous failure in office was the implementation of the withdrawal from Afghanistan, which was a deal and timeline negotiated by Trump. More recently, while threatening tariffs against Mexico and Canada, Trump hilariously stepped on his own... tie... by criticizing the USMCA trade deal, wondering aloud who would have ever signed such a terrible deal, when he's the one who signed it himself in 2020. Now he's supposed to be doing a deal in Ukraine (which he claimed would be done before he was even sworn in), and he's incorrectly claiming Ukraine started the war, while going on record siding with Russia, North Korea and Belorus at the UN, and against our own longstanding allies. Also, are you really going to cite Mark Cuban? He just said Trump is a "great marketer" (even better than Paris Hilton and Dennis Rodman!), not a great dealmaker. You probably don't want to look too much at the other things Cuban has said about Trump in the past year.
So Cook is appealing to Trump the marketer, letting him think that the things Apple was already doing in the US were his idea. Cook's tactic is clearly to massage Trump's ego in order to influence him on other things that will affect Apple's business. There is indeed an expert dealmaker in that conversation, but only one.
Shhhh.... Don't tell the Dotard. He thinks he just pulled off an amazing deal....
Yeah, the dotard who conducted the greatest comeback in political history---despite the full force of the US government, media and majority of leftist global powers against him. I understand why leftists don't like Trump, disagree with him or even hate him. But I'll never understand how they think he's stupid.
Here’s a hint. It’s easier to win or succeed at any venture when you cheat.
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This is not a political forum. Talk politics elsewhere. Keep it to Apple and the topic at hand. DEI, investments in the united states, and algorithmic errors are all on the table right now. Why Russia or January 6th is coming up is beyond me.
This thread will be an interesting watch when Apple follows through. Last time they said they’d build in America we got the max pro. Probably the pinnacle of computing at the time.
And we know Apple is serious about AI. With corrupt governments trying to harm Apple as much as possible, things are aligning for Apple to keep their word on this investment. And there’s probably no more favorable a state to do so than Texas.
Would also go a long way toward alleviating the appearance of investing too much in China.
Kinda doubt it’s business as usual. Guess time will tell. That’s the only way we know for sure.
If a linear increase in US spending by Apple over the last seven years isn't enough to show you that it's business as usual, I'm not sure what else to tell you.
Shhhh.... Don't tell the Dotard. He thinks he just pulled off an amazing deal....
Yeah, the dotard who conducted the greatest comeback in political history---despite the full force of the US government, media and majority of leftist global powers against him. I understand why leftists don't like Trump, disagree with him or even hate him. But I'll never understand how they think he's stupid.
Here’s a hint. It’s easier to win or succeed at any venture when you cheat.
Cheat at what exactly?
"How can you be so obtuse? ... Is it deliberate?" - Andy Dufresne
Shhhh.... Don't tell the Dotard. He thinks he just pulled off an amazing deal....
Yeah, the dotard who conducted the greatest comeback in political history---despite the full force of the US government, media and majority of leftist global powers against him. I understand why leftists don't like Trump, disagree with him or even hate him. But I'll never understand how they think he's stupid.
Exactly right, Trump is a deal maker and even if Apple already planned to do all this US investment at least Trump got him to commit to it publicly and now everyone knows. What is so bad about Trump and Tim talking about this and making an announcement- it’s good for everyone to know this especially the millions of Apple haters out there. People on the left, after all these years, still do not understand that President Trump is first and foremost a deal maker. He does it with countries, companies and people ( he did it recently with AI and will do the same with Ukraine). Even Mark Cuban who is not Trump fan said he is the best at it.
A "great dealmaker" who has had a dozen or so business - even a casino - go bankrupt? Maybe some consider hush money payments of only $130,000 to Stormy a "great deal" but maybe less so when it comes with convictions on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records to conceal those payments.
Trump is certainly a great shakedown artist (as was shown in the $1mil pay-to-play inauguration scheme), and that's what Cook, Apple, and all the major US corporations are having to deal with right now. NOT the business of business, but the business of placating the thug who walks into your store saying, "Nice place ya go here. Be a shame if sumptin were to happen to it."
Mark Cuban:
"As I tried to get other things out of him related to policy, there was just nothing there. The more he spoke out, the more that was obvious, the more the immigration stuff came out, and the more hateful stuff came out. That just turned me," he said.
Later in the episode, Cuban said: "He's very transactional. That says it all. He doesn't care about crypto. He doesn't care about technology. He doesn't care about AI. But he certainly cares about people with a lot of money."
Apple through Cook is trying to negotiate this new mob-styled landscape the best they can. It's creating unnecessary distractions for virtually all businesses in the country.
Shhhh.... Don't tell the Dotard. He thinks he just pulled off an amazing deal....
Yeah, the dotard who conducted the greatest comeback in political history---despite the full force of the US government, media and majority of leftist global powers against him. I understand why leftists don't like Trump, disagree with him or even hate him. But I'll never understand how they think he's stupid.
I believe it’s Grover Cleveland you’re thinking of for “greatest comeback,” and if the election had been two years later, the Felon-in-Chief would have been reading the results in his cell at a federal correctional institution.
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This is not a political forum. Talk politics elsewhere. Keep it to Apple and the topic at hand. DEI, investments in the united states, and algorithmic errors are all on the table right now. Why Russia or January 6th is coming up is beyond me.
- Andy Dufresne
Trump is certainly a great shakedown artist (as was shown in the $1mil pay-to-play inauguration scheme), and that's what Cook, Apple, and all the major US corporations are having to deal with right now. NOT the business of business, but the business of placating the thug who walks into your store saying, "Nice place ya go here. Be a shame if sumptin were to happen to it."
Mark Cuban:
"As I tried to get other things out of him related to policy, there was just nothing there. The more he spoke out, the more that was obvious, the more the immigration stuff came out, and the more hateful stuff came out. That just turned me," he said.
Later in the episode, Cuban said: "He's very transactional. That says it all. He doesn't care about crypto. He doesn't care about technology. He doesn't care about AI. But he certainly cares about people with a lot of money."
https://www.newsweek.com/mark-cuban-reveals-exact-moment-he-turned-donald-trump-1976513
Apple through Cook is trying to negotiate this new mob-styled landscape the best they can. It's creating unnecessary distractions for virtually all businesses in the country.