Steve Jobs didn't tolerate yes-men, understood his influence at Pixar

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Steve Jobs' personality led to some interesting events during his time at Pixar, including firing board of directors members for failing to disagree with him.

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The managerial style of Steve Jobs can be described by some as abrasive, and strong-willed by others, during his time at Apple. It's also something that was apparent during his time at Pixar, with stories from Ed Catmull, co-founder of Pixar Animation Studios, which had Steve as a majority shareholder.

In an interview about Jobs for the Steve Jobs Archive released on Friday, Catmull and guests discussed the Apple co-founder's managerial style.

No to Yes Men



When talking about team values, Catmull brings up how the "Braintrust" at Pixar was "very intense," due to arguments about how to solve problems with a movie in development. The arguments aren't personal, he adds, and it's less about people insisting they're right and more about whether a bit in a movie works or not.

The need for discussion when there is a potential problem also resulted in an odd situation for Jobs, while Pixar was a public company. While the board is described by Catmull as being a "really lively group with very powerful, opinionated people," it wasn't quite right for Jobs.



Jobs fired two members from the board for the same reason, Catmull explains. The reason from Steve for the move was that they never disagreed with Jobs' opinion at all.

If they didn't disagree, they're not bringing anything to the company, the Pixar co-founder continued.

Holding back a strong personality



In another story, Catmull explains why Jobs wasn't involved with the Braintrust, which made decisions on films, at an early stage. The Braintrust was formed to provide feedback, as new directors joined the company.

However, it didn't work that well, as the feedback group was in the same building, so there was a loss of objectivity. The solution was to turn Steve Jobs into the feedback person.

Catmull asked Jobs to never attend a Braintrust meeting, too.

A rule of the meeting was that the most powerful people in the room must stay quiet for the first ten minutes, as anything they say would set the tone immediately and drown out other weaker voices. Steve was counted as one of these people, as it was apparently impossible for him to say anything at the meeting without changing the tone.

Jobs was aware of this problem and agreed not to attend meetings. However, he saw the movies at the times when the board of directors were also shown them, and under the steering committee when Pixar was owned by Disney.

He would provide feedback at that point, Catmull said, as he would become "an external force who has a vested interest" in the film succeeding.

During those screenings, Jobs would also talk to the director and producer afterwards. He would warn them "I'm not a film director. You can ignore everything I say," and he apparently meant it, according to Catmull, before giving reportedly powerful feedback.

What Jobs said to them was not anything that the Braintrust didn't say before, Ed remembers. But even so, what was said apparently felt like "a gut punch" at times.

Catmull believes that, in working in close proximity to the Braintrust, directors would learn to ignore each other and not hear the advice. Jobs, however, could not be ignored.

No advantage to being wrong



In a concluding story started off by filmmaker John Chu, a keynote for the iMac had Jobs admitting "We made a mistake" over not including a CD-R drive in the device. "We're like eight months behind the ball, but we're going to change that today," Chu recounts Jobs as stating.

Chu remembers watching and thinking that he hadn't seen Jobs admit to making a mistake in public like that. Catmull went on to explain that Jobs didn't see any advantage in being wrong, and therefore, an admittance was easy for him.

When others criticized Jobs over it, Catmull thought their complaints were wrong. "It's acknowledging it and fixing it quickly, that was his power," he declared.

While people generally thought they needed to be right to be a leader, Catmull said, the real thing to being a leader was the ability to change.



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  • Reply 1 of 7
    auxioauxio Posts: 2,785member
    It's an admirable quality of someone in a position of power to understand that diverse opinions from passionate people are actually a good thing and typically lead to better outcomes for whatever you're trying to accomplish. Jobs was strong willed, but as you can see from some of his core beliefs, he wasn't driven by his own ego or amassing wealth. Something leaders of today could learn from.
    DAalsethlondorpulseimagesAlex_Vh2pAppleZuluelijahgmuthuk_vanalingam7omrlolliver
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    sternasterna Posts: 1member
    Just like 2025 pres
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  • Reply 3 of 7
    If you want to know more about Jobs Becoming Steve Jobs by Brent Schlender and Rick Tetzeli is very good and shows how nuanced and intelligent he was. Please don’t read the awful Issacson book as it’s crap. 
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    AppleZuluapplezulu Posts: 2,386member
    sterna said:
    Just like 2025 pres
    You forgot to include your /snark code.
    9secondkox2davmarklarklolliver
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  • Reply 5 of 7
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,363member
    Wise man. 

    He understood success was the goal. He measured success by quality. It had to be the best. 

    And if it was the best, all the goals of business would automatically be met and accessed. 

    The man had strong vision. Fought tooth and nail for it. And it paid off. 
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    dewmedewme Posts: 5,984member
    Very nice article that describes some of the most important attributes of a great leader. 

    On the other end of the spectrum, anyone who refuses to admit their mistakes is a fraud. 
    muthuk_vanalingamdavlolliver
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    Wise man. 

    He understood success was the goal. He measured success by quality. It had to be the best. 

    And if it was the best, all the goals of business would automatically be met and accessed. 

    The man had strong vision. Fought tooth and nail for it. And it paid off. 

    What is this obsession with canonizing the dead?  Jobs was self centered and petty sometimes.  The story about yes-men sounds like folklore cooked up to make a better story. And if anyone loved a good story, it was Jobs.  
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