iPhone Fold rumored to cost over $2000

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The iPhone Fold will be an extremely expensive smartphone to purchase, with a leaker claiming it could be priced at more than $2,000 at launch.

Foldable smartphone with three rear cameras and a sleek metallic design against a gradient background of green and yellow.
A render of what the iPhone Fold could look like - Image Credit: AppleInsider



The iPhone Fold is a long-rumored smartphone that Apple has reportedly been working on for years. While it is expected to be a premium offering whenever it ships, the price to consumers could be extremely high relative to the typical iPhone releases.



According to serial leaker "Instant Digital" on Weibo, the price could end up being between $2,100 and $2,300 to consumers. Though they do not disclose their actual working out of that price range, the leaker claims it's based on Apple's typical iPhone profit margin.

Instant Digital, also known as "Setsuna Digital" has a reasonable track record, including claims about the last few generations of iPhone. However, there have been occasional misses in terms of accuracy too.

An expensive proposition



As part of the claim, Instant Digital comments it's "not much more expensive than Samsung." For reference, the current Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6 is priced on the company's website at $1,899 at its lowest capacity, $2,019 for the mid-tier capacity, and $2,259 for the 1TB maximum capacity.

The propsed Apple pricing is high if you compare against other foldables on the market. Continuing with Samsung, its Flip6 model ranges from $1,099 to $1,219, practically half the claimed iPhone Fold price.

The Googel Pixel 9 Pro Fold is closer to the leaker's price range, going from $1,799 for the lowest capacity model, to $1,919 for the highest. The OnePlus Open is also reasonably priced in comparison to the prospective iPhone Fold, at $1,699.99.

As a folding device and a brand new product category for Apple, the iPhone Fold is always expected to be a more premium product than the standard iPhone. With more moving parts and increased research and development, the price can only go up.

What helps the Instant Digital leak is that analysts have made similar guesses. Barclays analyst Tim Long said in March that the iPhone Fold could have a starting price at around $2,300, with the upper bound being a few hundred dollars more based on typical storage price increases.

Ming-Chi Kuo also made a March forecast, offering that it will cost between $2,000 and $2,500.

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  • Reply 1 of 22
    jvm156jvm156 Posts: 77member
    i certainly can’t imagine it costing less than that. 
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  • Reply 2 of 22
    Fred257fred257 Posts: 289member
    I will move to Samsung or pixel when they come out with a new flip. Larger phones are to heavy to carry around 
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  • Reply 3 of 22
    AppleZuluapplezulu Posts: 2,402member
    There has still not been a convincing use case made for this, beyond the novelty of it, and by definition, novelty wears off quickly.

    With a starting price $400-$700 more than the most expensive iPhone Pro Max, about the same as the most expensive MacBook Air, and about even with MacBook Pro starting prices, who is going to buy this phone?

    The Vision Pro is pretty expensive, but it actually introduces new and different utility beyond the novelty that you wear fit on your face. The folding phone does none of that. 

    None of it makes any sense, and in all probability, none of it will ever see the light of day. The problem is that its continued non-existence will leave open the opportunity for "analysts" to keep predicting it, and sites like AI to keep reporting on those predictions. 
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  • Reply 4 of 22
    KMWAZkmwaz Posts: 4member
    That's nuts.  Don't think people will want it (only the have to have's will), the current format works fine. 
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  • Reply 5 of 22
    thttht Posts: 5,913member
    If this device is 3% of iPhone sales, it would be an incredible success. The market is technophiles. People who want high end novelty devices. It doesn't have to sell to everyone. Just the top 2, 3, 5% of the market.

    A lot of these buyers get the iPhone Pro Max. If Apple converts some of them to the iPhone Fold, that's a gigantic win because ASPs for iPhone Fold will be 2x to 2.5x. I think Apple would have done it two or three years ago except for issues with the crease and the friction of the display cover.

    They really should go with a glass display cover with a 0.5" bend diameter, or 0.25" bend radius. Would make for the hinge end to be 0.6, 0.7 inches thick (14 to 16 mm), but I would much prefer no crease with a smooth surface over the existing designs.
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  • Reply 6 of 22
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,442member
    Zero surprise. Galaxy Fold 6 ranges from $1600 to nearly $2K at Best Buy, depending on storage, So it sounds like Apple will be within a few hundred of those numbers. Why Apple would introduce this extremely niche and expensive bridge to nowhere is beyond me, but I also can't believe that all these predictions of its arrival are wrong. Apple has never felt the "me, too" need to chase Android gimmicks. and it's hard to see the Galaxy Fold as anything more than that when it has generated such little sales traction after six years on the market. Same for the Pixel Fold, although that has been around for only two years. Who knows? Maybe Apple will have come up with some compelling use cases by the time it arrives that will justify its stratospheric price and fragility when you inevitably drop it to a broader audience than either Samsung or Google has reached, but I'm not sure what those would be. 
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  • Reply 7 of 22
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,442member
    tht said:
    If this device is 3% of iPhone sales, it would be an incredible success. 
    Nibbling at the edges like that has never been Apple's game. The iPhone Plus has routinely made it into the top ten selling smartphones in the world, and yet Apple is still allegedly cutting it for lack of "sufficient" sales. As for 3% of sales being a gigantic win--how do you figure that? I think you're correct that Fold sales will largely come from cannibalizing Pro Max sales. A mid-tier storage Pro Max sells for $1600. A similar storage Fold might come in at $400 or $500 more. But it's going to be a MUCH more expensive phone to manufacture, not to mention the costs for R&D, tooling and marketing that will go into it. I'm not seeing much added profit at all for Apple in that $400-$500 increase in the selling price over the Pro Max when you consider all of the costs that have to be amortized over a relatively small (for Apple) number of phones that will be sold. 

    geekmee said:
    Remind me, what problem does this solve again?
    It will finally stop the whining on tech sites for Apple to make a folding phone. 
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  • Reply 8 of 22
    geekmeegeekmee Posts: 653member
    Remind me, what problem does this solve again?
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  • Reply 9 of 22
    charlesn said:
    tht said:
    If this device is 3% of iPhone sales, it would be an incredible success. 
    Nibbling at the edges like that has never been Apple's game. The iPhone Plus has routinely made it into the top ten selling smartphones in the world, and yet Apple is still allegedly cutting it for lack of "sufficient" sales. As for 3% of sales being a gigantic win--how do you figure that? I think you're correct that Fold sales will largely come from cannibalizing Pro Max sales. A mid-tier storage Pro Max sells for $1600. A similar storage Fold might come in at $400 or $500 more. But it's going to be a MUCH more expensive phone to manufacture, not to mention the costs for R&D, tooling and marketing that will go into it. I'm not seeing much added profit at all for Apple in that $400-$500 increase in the selling price over the Pro Max when you consider all of the costs that have to be amortized over a relatively small (for Apple) number of phones that will be sold. 

    geekmee said:
    Remind me, what problem does this solve again?
    It will finally stop the whining on tech sites for Apple to make a folding phone. 
    I don't think the highest storage tier foldable iPhone will cost just $400-$500 when compared to the highest storage tier iPhone Pro Max. It would be the entry level iPhone Fold that would cost $400-$500 more than the highest storage iPhone Pro Max. If you make an apples to apples comparison, the iPhone Fold would cost almost double when compared to iPhone Pro Max. So margins won't be an issue with iPhone Fold lineup for Apple.
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  • Reply 10 of 22
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 8,240member
    charlesn said:
    Zero surprise. Galaxy Fold 6 ranges from $1600 to nearly $2K at Best Buy, depending on storage, So it sounds like Apple will be within a few hundred of those numbers. Why Apple would introduce this extremely niche and expensive bridge to nowhere is beyond me, but I also can't believe that all these predictions of its arrival are wrong. Apple has never felt the "me, too" need to chase Android gimmicks. and it's hard to see the Galaxy Fold as anything more than that when it has generated such little sales traction after six years on the market. Same for the Pixel Fold, although that has been around for only two years. Who knows? Maybe Apple will have come up with some compelling use cases by the time it arrives that will justify its stratospheric price and fragility when you inevitably drop it to a broader audience than either Samsung or Google has reached, but I'm not sure what those would be. 
    There are some things to consider here. 

    Apple is having a tough time competing in China. There are a few reasons for that but I'll highlight just two. 

    NEV sales are going through the roof there and the 'smarts' in those cars are very smart - blowing way past anything CarPlay can offer. Hundreds of thousands (and rising fast) of those cars are running HarmonyOS so anyone with a Huawei phone tied to a Huawei-partnered car will see the benefits. The opposite is also true. If one of those cars takes your fancy, getting a Huawei phone (or tablet, wearable, TV...) makes a lot of sense.

    Xiaomi is another example although so far they only have one car. 

    What can Apple do to counter that situation if they have no competing product? 

    Folding phones are reaching maturity in many ways but remain expensive. That keeps the marketshare of folding phones down. 

    Prices especially of flip phones however, are seeing more affordable versions come to market.

    Similar to the car situation if you want a folding experience, Apple is not going to get the sale because it has no folding option. You would have to look elsewhere. 

    It has been said that if the Huawei Mate XT hit sales of 500,000 units (unthinkable to my mind) it would bring in $1.5B in revenue. Yet just last week there were (unsubstantiated) reports of it having sold 400,000 units (in spite of the incredible price tag). In basically one quarter. 

    That model has now got a 'global' release so it's anybody's guess how many will be sold. Prices start at 3,699€ in the EU. 

    Now the Pura X has hit the Chinese market too with it's unusual form factor but great screen ratio. 

    Throw in the likes of Oppo, Honor, Samsung etc and there are lots of folding options to choose from and thinness, weight, creases etc are beginning to look like non-issues. 

    It's hard not to see Apple losing sales (especially in China) as a result of not having a folding phone. 

    There will clearly be a threshold to lost sales beyond which Apple must respond. Perhaps these reports are simply Apple gearing up to stop a trickle of lost sales turning into a flood.

    The outlier here is maybe Google. While the US is shielded (quite literally now) from a wide spread of folding/flip options on home soil, if a Pixel Fold came to market offering Chinese level engineering, Apple would possibly be in a spot of bother (assuming there is untapped demand for foldables there). 
    edited April 16
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  • Reply 11 of 22
    M68000m68000 Posts: 936member
    geekmee said:
    Remind me, what problem does this solve again?
    “Keeping up with the Joneses”. 😀
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  • Reply 12 of 22
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,454member
    Finally, Apple's "Edsel" moment. 
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  • Reply 13 of 22
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,454member
    "iBrick" looks to have a bright future. 
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  • Reply 14 of 22
    CiaranFciaranf Posts: 27member
    The way this tariff war is going, a base model Pro will cost over $2k. I can only imagine the price in the end for this. 
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  • Reply 15 of 22
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,442member
    charlesn said:
    tht said:
    If this device is 3% of iPhone sales, it would be an incredible success. 
    Nibbling at the edges like that has never been Apple's game. The iPhone Plus has routinely made it into the top ten selling smartphones in the world, and yet Apple is still allegedly cutting it for lack of "sufficient" sales. As for 3% of sales being a gigantic win--how do you figure that? I think you're correct that Fold sales will largely come from cannibalizing Pro Max sales. A mid-tier storage Pro Max sells for $1600. A similar storage Fold might come in at $400 or $500 more. But it's going to be a MUCH more expensive phone to manufacture, not to mention the costs for R&D, tooling and marketing that will go into it. I'm not seeing much added profit at all for Apple in that $400-$500 increase in the selling price over the Pro Max when you consider all of the costs that have to be amortized over a relatively small (for Apple) number of phones that will be sold. 

    geekmee said:
    Remind me, what problem does this solve again?
    It will finally stop the whining on tech sites for Apple to make a folding phone. 
    I don't think the highest storage tier foldable iPhone will cost just $400-$500 when compared to the highest storage tier iPhone Pro Max. It would be the entry level iPhone Fold that would cost $400-$500 more than the highest storage iPhone Pro Max. If you make an apples to apples comparison, the iPhone Fold would cost almost double when compared to iPhone Pro Max. So margins won't be an issue with iPhone Fold lineup for Apple.
    My bad. I pulled the price for the Max's highest storage tier, not the mid-tier. So yes, if the fold ends up being in the $2K-$2500 range depending on storage, it would make each of the three models $800-$900 more expensive than its Pro Max counterpart. 

    avon b7 said:
    There are some things to consider here. 

    Apple is having a tough time competing in China. There are a few reasons for that but I'll highlight just two. 

    NEV sales are going through the roof there and the 'smarts' in those cars are very smart - blowing way past anything CarPlay can offer. Hundreds of thousands (and rising fast) of those cars are running HarmonyOS so anyone with a Huawei phone tied to a Huawei-partnered car will see the benefits. The opposite is also true. If one of those cars takes your fancy, getting a Huawei phone (or tablet, wearable, TV...) makes a lot of sense.

    Xiaomi is another example although so far they only have one car. 

    What can Apple do to counter that situation if they have no competing product? 

    Folding phones are reaching maturity in many ways but remain expensive. That keeps the marketshare of folding phones down. 

    Prices especially of flip phones however, are seeing more affordable versions come to market.

    Similar to the car situation if you want a folding experience, Apple is not going to get the sale because it has no folding option. You would have to look elsewhere. 

    It has been said that if the Huawei Mate XT hit sales of 500,000 units (unthinkable to my mind) it would bring in $1.5B in revenue. Yet just last week there were (unsubstantiated) reports of it having sold 400,000 units (in spite of the incredible price tag). In basically one quarter. 

    That model has now got a 'global' release so it's anybody's guess how many will be sold. Prices start at 3,699€ in the EU. 

    Now the Pura X has hit the Chinese market too with it's unusual form factor but great screen ratio. 

    Throw in the likes of Oppo, Honor, Samsung etc and there are lots of folding options to choose from and thinness, weight, creases etc are beginning to look like non-issues. 

    It's hard not to see Apple losing sales (especially in China) as a result of not having a folding phone. 

    There will clearly be a threshold to lost sales beyond which Apple must respond. Perhaps these reports are simply Apple gearing up to stop a trickle of lost sales turning into a flood.

    The outlier here is maybe Google. While the US is shielded (quite literally now) from a wide spread of folding/flip options on home soil, if a Pixel Fold came to market offering Chinese level engineering, Apple would possibly be in a spot of bother (assuming there is untapped demand for foldables there). 
    It may be the case that Apple "needs" a folding phone for the China market. Hard to know for sure without knowing how much market share high-end folding phones actually have. That aside, I could see it being difficult, especially in China, to maintain perception of being a premium, "luxury" brand when you're not competing at the ultra premium end of the market while your main competitors are. I also think that the competition in China to leap ahead to the next big "feature" is especially brutal. That Huawei XT--apart from its more than a Vision Pro price tag!--is a case in point. Not just a folding phone, but a TRI-panel folding phone. To be honest, THAT design makes more sense to me than the dual panel folds because one of the screen panels on the Huawei faces outward when folded--so you can use it as a normal candy bar phone with no need to unfold it unless you want the bigger screen, which goes up to 10 inches with all 3 panels unfolded. 
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  • Reply 16 of 22
    Not for me ever!
    williamlondon
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  • Reply 17 of 22
    I have yet to see any iPhone innovation that I've found compelling enough to ditch my iPhone 12.
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  • Reply 18 of 22
    Choice is what people want and I would love an iPhone that has a smaller footprint with a quick look screen that folds out to an iPad mini, and nothing you naysayers think matters #INNOVATEorDIE
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  • Reply 19 of 22
    GeeAyegeeaye Posts: 42unconfirmed, member
    *$2000 in every other countrty
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  • Reply 20 of 22
    Zirlinzirlin Posts: 28member
    $2000+? Keep it.
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