App Store Freedom Act hopes to bring alternative app stores to US iPhones

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A bill proposed in Florida may bring DMA-like provisions to the United States, forcing Apple to allow alternative app stores, third-party payments, and side loading on iPhones.

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Alternative app stores could come to US iPhones if a new Florida bill passes



Apple has been wrestling for control over its platforms for years as regulators around the globe seek to open up the walled garden. The biggest effort to date, the EU Digital Markets Act, has inspired action in the United States before, but the latest bill may go full force.

Even though the United States government has stated it won't tolerate foreign entities regulating and fining Apple, that hasn't stopped it from pursuing similar legislation. According to a report from The Verge, Florida Representative Cammack has introduced the App Store Freedom Act to combat companies like Apple and Google.

While these companies aren't named directly, the bill targets any company with app stores that have more than 100,000,000 users. It states that the platform owners must allow third-party app stores, external payment methods, and access to all the same technologies available to developers on Apple's platform.

It also has strict language around Apple not being able to maliciously comply via difficult-to-follow rules or high fees. Basically, it would open the door to using iPhone as the world's biggest and most lucrative distribution system with little to no cost to developers while Apple foots the bill for the underlying technology.

"At its core, this bill seeks to promote a competitive marketplace for consumers and developers," Representative Cammack said in a press release, "ensuring U.S. mobile users can choose the applications, payment methods and platforms that are best for them without unduly forcing developers to comply or the pay the price-- both literally and figuratively-- for straying from the dominant marketplaces' preferences."

While what the bill asks requires a significant overhaul of Apple's business model, the legislators are aware that Apple has already built a similar system in the EU. If the bill passes, the timeframes around execution and enforcement could be quite abbreviated.

In the EU under the DMA, developers can opt to leave the App Store model and distribute their apps via an alternative App Store or website. Apple still collects a commission, but only after 1 million app downloads, and there is an escape hatch if a developer fears they can't afford to pay it.

Apple's compliance with the DMA has come under question repeatedly and has resulted in fines. With ongoing regulatory issues in the Epic Games case, Apple will likely not curry much favor in the US courts either.

By trying to maintain absolute control over its platform every step of the way, it seems Apple may lose more than it bargained for. How it responds to the new US regulations, if passed, could decide what the future of the company's business model and relationship with developers looks like.



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  • Reply 1 of 32
    nubusnubus Posts: 820member
    Nooo.... an All-American republican right out of the family ranch in Colorado demanding "Right to install". What should we name the bill? North American Right to Apps or NRA?

    Even if this is a blatant rip-off on European IP you're most welcome. Just place EU in front of anything name Liberty and you can have it without tariffs or a 30% cut ;-)
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  • Reply 2 of 32
    docbburkdocbburk Posts: 113member
    Why are politicians so quick to jump on a topic that's catching media attention instead of actually working to solve this country's many real problems? This is another weak-minded attempt to get votes and attention. What's next, writing a bill that requires Amazon to store anything a 3rd party wants to sell in their warehouses, list it on Amazon.com and distribute it all without c
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  • Reply 3 of 32
    docbburkdocbburk Posts: 113member
    All without compensation? That's what they are trying to do to Apple. 
    iOS_Guy80ITGUYINSD
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  • Reply 4 of 32
    Fred257fred257 Posts: 290member
    This isn’t about politics.  Remember jailbreaks? Without jailbreaks we wouldn’t have many inventions that Apple copied and have been a huge part of the iPhone for quite some time. Take control center or music starting automatically when connected to Bluetooth. I had these using an iPhone 3GS. Plus I could run my phone 📞 n TMobile which was not available at the time and was less then half the amount of ATT.  
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  • Reply 5 of 32
    apple4thewinapple4thewin Posts: 438member
    Well… I guess the time was coming, or like most bills, this will be thrown out or pushed back for years. 
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  • Reply 6 of 32
    apple4thewinapple4thewin Posts: 438member
    So question for anyone, most of the time Apple is the center of these laws, but does that force the hand of other companies? Such as Nintendo on the Switch platform? Sony on PlayStation? Microsoft on Xbox?
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  • Reply 7 of 32
    hammeroftruthhammeroftruth Posts: 1,389member
    This is another attempt to make Apple’s business model that Steve Jobs made into the same thing that gutted IBM when they lost the PC market to cloners. The way the App Store works is tied to the R&D costs of Apple’s products. When NBC wanted to leave iTunes because they thought it cost them too much money, they realized that because of iTunes shows like “The Office” were saved by Apple’s customers who bought the shows episodes. 

    Now Epic, a company who, for years, had NO public beef with Apple’s fees, decided to revolt. Is it because of exorbitant fees, or because of Tencent’s 40% stake in Epic’s ownership and now they don’t want to pay.  

    So you can use 3rd party app stores on Android and I’m not seeing any data on how much money the consumer is saving nor how much more money the developer is making due to not being on a manufacturer’s App Store. 
    What I am seeing is more android developers making iOS apps and seeing more security alerts due to “open markets”.  

    I am in favor of negotiating better terms between Apple and the developers. Not so much the consumer because they would want everything for free anyway and some devs appease them and customers give them their data in trade not thinking their information IS the currency. 
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  • Reply 8 of 32
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 8,265member
    So question for anyone, most of the time Apple is the center of these laws, but does that force the hand of other companies? Such as Nintendo on the Switch platform? Sony on PlayStation? Microsoft on Xbox?
    It's not limited to Apple but there are few companies involved. That is why these proposals are made in the first place. 

    Those few companies have sufficient means to limit competition and stifle innovation. Especially when their scope for harm is wide.

    The equivalent of 'gatekeeper' will perhaps need to be fleshed out a bit but we can expect the same kind of action (in one form or another) to spread. 
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  • Reply 9 of 32
    JamesCudejamescude Posts: 102member
    “Freedom” to allow an American company to be sidestepped by all kinds of foreign entities. Make it make sense.
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  • Reply 10 of 32
    sirdirsirdir Posts: 210member
    docbburk said:
    All without compensation? That's what they are trying to do to Apple. 
    I think they can still get compensation. But why, I thought they sell phones. Why shouldn’t the OWNER of the phone have a choice where he licenses his software??
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  • Reply 11 of 32
    sirdirsirdir Posts: 210member
    JamesCude said:
    “Freedom” to allow an American company to be sidestepped by all kinds of foreign entities. Make it make sense.
    Yep, evil developers. 
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  • Reply 12 of 32
    Pekoepekoe Posts: 8member
    As a long time iPhone fan, my number one issue issue is security/privacy.  There is no other issue even close. I believe that the real issue here is companies that want to steal our data, track us, and cheat us.  The "walled garden" is the best thing that ever happened to Smart Phones.  Apple - stay strong!
    williamlondonthtradarthekatmattinoz
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  • Reply 13 of 32
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,459member
    The Orwellian name, "App Store Freedom Act" is actually a denial of my freedom to choose a walled garden app store. For those who don't want to choose it, they have non-walled options by going with Android. Have at it!

    Gosh... I guess if Apple's 30% cut is so greedy and onerous, developers must have said, "Screw you, Apple," we're going to focus on developing for Android!" Such a shame that happened! Wait, what's that? Developers ARE still developing for Apple? Oh, that's good!. Wait, and what?!  You say many actually prefer developing for Apple, and either develop iOS versions of apps first, or develop for iOS exclusively? But that makes no sense! Apple is ripping them off with a monopoly that gouges them for a 30% cut! What? They say it's worth it because WHY? Hmmmm... okay, so Apple paid all costs to set up the App Store and pays all costs to operate it. Sure, but.... oh, there's more? Go ahead... so Apple is serving up to developers hundreds of millions of iOS users that are, by far, THE most lucrative app buying customer base in the world? Almost a billion app downloads per WEEK? Wow. Okay, now I get... oh, there's STILL more? So because Apple's hardware and software are so tightly interwoven, and because Apple has done such a great job educating its customer base to download and run the latest free iOS updates, it's actually much easier to develop for iOS than all the different flavors of Android out there, with a user base that's all over the map in terms of how recent or old the version is that they're using. So it takes less time to develop for Apple, time is money, AND the app will work more reliably because the iOS version is recent and consistent. Okay... wow....well, sounds like Apple is providing a helluva lot of value for a 30% cut of sales! If someone was giving my business access to that kind of customer base, I'd happily give them 30% of sales! So what do they want from Apple? Say what?! They still want access to that fantastic customer base, but they want to be able to direct them to another site that cuts Apple out of the purchase?! And Apple is the greedy one if they don't allow this?! Yeah, right. 

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  • Reply 14 of 32
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,434member
    Nothing “free” about being forced to bring freeloaders in the house you built. 

    Gotta love these laws with nice sounding names while carrying destructive payloads. 

    If they can do this to apple, they can do it to each and all of us. 

    “Hey little Susie, great lemonade stand you built. It’s got good lemonade, it’s painted and looks great. And you have a nice secure cash box. Wow. Great job. But you see Timmy across the street? His lemonade stand isn’t so nice and his lemonade is made with dirty water bevause he doesn’t clean the jar , his stand is just a chair with the jar in the ground bevause he is lazy And no one is buying from him. So you need to scoot over and put another nice chair here in your pretty painted lemonade stand for Timmy and put his cash box next to yours and give him space to put his lemonade on your shelf. That way it’s “fair.” And if anyone has a problem with his lemonade, you deal with it ok? Ok. Oh. By the way, Timmy won’t pay you a single penny for using your stand and taking sale
    s from your customers. 

    I’d be shocked if our “justice system” allows this. But then again, after seeing so much lately, maybe not so shocked. 


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  • Reply 15 of 32
    jfabula1jfabula1 Posts: 224member
    Let them build their own ecosystem 
    haluks9secondkox2dewmeAlex1N
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  • Reply 16 of 32
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,742member
    So question for anyone, most of the time Apple is the center of these laws, but does that force the hand of other companies? Such as Nintendo on the Switch platform? Sony on PlayStation? Microsoft on Xbox?
    No probably not… The object is to make Apple into HP or Dell hardware only.
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  • Reply 17 of 32
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,434member
    jfabula1 said:
    Let them build their own ecosystem 
    Exactly. You want your own sales, then go find your own customers and build your own platform. 

    Otherwise stick to the terms of your partnership and be grateful they didn’t kick you out for trying to rob them. 
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  • Reply 18 of 32
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,434member
    danox said:
    So question for anyone, most of the time Apple is the center of these laws, but does that force the hand of other companies? Such as Nintendo on the Switch platform? Sony on PlayStation? Microsoft on Xbox?
    No probably not… The object is to make Apple into HP or Dell hardware only.

    actually, yes. 

    Because if they do that to Apple, then the precedent is set and the near identical models of Nintendo, PlayStation, Google play store, and Xbox etc. will be right behind like dominoes. 

    It’s just a very bad precedent set in the epuc games case in the usa and even worse by the incredibly corrupt dma in the eu. 

    The judge had no reason to hurt apple like that. Just because someone brings a frivolous lawsuit doesn’t mean that party should get a consolation prize when they lose. 

    And in the case of the targeted legalized extortion racket in the EU, the whole thing must be repealed. 
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  • Reply 19 of 32
    From The Verge article:

     It would also require Apple and Google to offer developers “equal access to interfaces, features, and development tools without cost or discrimination,” as well as allow users to remove or hide pre-installed apps.”

    The acces to development tools at no cost seems especially nuts. 
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  • Reply 20 of 32
    AppleZuluapplezulu Posts: 2,430member
    Once again, consumer choice happens when selecting the device. If you want a managed, secure system, get an iPhone. If you want to be able to side load unregulated third-party stuff, get an Android phone. Forcing Apple to be more like Android results in less consumer choice, not more. 
    tiredskillsmattinoz
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