I almost died today

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
f***'in allergies. Has this happened to anyone else? my throat closed, hives, couldn't breath...I was in a out-patient clinic for half the day, and I don't know what I was allergic too... so I was just wondering what you all do when/if this happened to you. How do i tell what i had an allergic reaction too?

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  • Reply 1 of 19
    lucaluca Posts: 3,833member
    Man... that's pretty scary. You should definitely go in and have it looked at. One time I got some hives after eating at Red Lobster and I was tested for various seafood allergies (shellfish is the most common). Basically, they used a little plastic thingie to scrape off the top layer of skin and then they put a tiny drop of some kind of seafood juice onto the area they had roughed up. I didn't end up reacting to any of it so I was cleared and now I can eat seafood all the time (which is fortunate because I love seafood!).



    Think about what you ate that day... especially immediately before your reaction. Allergic reactions can happen fast but not always so it could have been anything you ate. Just go in and get it checked because otherwise this may happen again, and you might not be so lucky next time.
  • Reply 2 of 19
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    you seem to have a Quincke oedema crisis. Finding the origin of your allergia will be a long and hard process. Sometimes even after a big investigation you don't find the origin.



    You should carry on your self some corticoids and some adrenalin in case of need.



    Good luck.
  • Reply 3 of 19
    fellowshipfellowship Posts: 5,038member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by kraig911

    f***'in allergies. Has this happened to anyone else? my throat closed, hives, couldn't breath...I was in a out-patient clinic for half the day, and I don't know what I was allergic too... so I was just wondering what you all do when/if this happened to you. How do i tell what i had an allergic reaction too?



    Cut out all sugar man! real fast!



    Sugar makes it worse... Any kind of simple sugars cut them. No Sodas....



    Talk to your doctor.



    Fellowship
  • Reply 4 of 19
    rick1138rick1138 Posts: 938member
    Staying away from sugar will not protect you from the type of serious reaction you have experienced. As Powerdoc said, finding the cause is often difficult. Skin tests are not necessarily accurate because many allergies are pathway dependent. The only accurate tests are RAST tests, which only work for IgE or similar antibody mediated reactions, but which happen to be the type that most commonly cause anaphylactic shock.
  • Reply 5 of 19
    aquafireaquafire Posts: 2,758member
    Bees.Bees Bees

    When I was a kid, I used to run around barefoot most of the time. Got plenty of bee stings too, but never had any problems.

    Then one day about 5 years ago, got stung twice in under a week.

    First sting no problems..a little swelling...so on.

    The next sting ( on my wrist ) ended up puffing the whole side of my neck & face.

    I looked like a balloon....& could barely breathe



    Sick as a dog & had to stay in hospital for a couple of days..

    Don't remember much about it as I was pretty much zonked....

    They said that it can effect the heart.....?

    Whatever.. Best thing for me is to just stay away from Beez........\
  • Reply 6 of 19
    netromacnetromac Posts: 863member
    The most importanc cause of anaphylactic shock outside of hispitals are penicillin of insect stings. Other causes are vaccines, drugs or x-ray contrast. Penicillin and penicillin derived drugs, ASA and vancomysin are some common drugs that often cause reactions like this. Shells, shellfish, seafood, soya products, wheat, nuts, milk, eggs, and conservatives in food can also cause AS. Bee, wasps, ants and other insects can also cause AS. And if your allergic to someting and being exposed to it in large quantities can also lead to AS.



    Anaphylaxia is a type I allergic/hypersensivity-reaction. The allergen reacts with IgE that is bound to socalled "mast-celles" that releases several mediators in large quantities that causes both local and systemic effects. Increas vascular permeability, bronchial constriction, increas secretion from mucous membranes, and leads to infiltration of immune-cells locally.



    Tests:

    Immunology:

    - Bloodtest for antibody examination have little value because of low sensivity and spesificity and is true for all IgE, IgA and IgG antibodys.

    - For RAST you have to critically evaluate results of these test because of many false positives and negatives.

    - Skin tests are uncertain with adults, but if they come out negative they have a high negative predictive value.



    Food tests:

    - Should be done in hospital, if you have had an anaphylactic reaction, with acute medical backup.



    If the reaction was severe and you don't know what you reacted to, you should go visit a doctor, and best of all would be to see some sort of specialist on allergic reactions. They can equipe you with a "EpiPen" (maybe called something else in america) that contains adrenalin and can be used if you should ever have this kind of reaction again.



    netro



    (edit: grammar AND spelling)
  • Reply 7 of 19
    giaguaragiaguara Posts: 2,724member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by FellowshipChurch iBook

    Cut out all sugar man! real fast!



    Sugar makes it worse... Any kind of simple sugars cut them. No Sodas....




    I doubt his symptoms are because of diabetes. what could be more probable to cause anything in sodas and candies are the colors and the conservants and all the other unneeded and unnatural crap. not the sugar.
  • Reply 8 of 19
    giaguaragiaguara Posts: 2,724member
    also the spring ... so pollen, dust, etc crap on the air. do you know if you are allergic e.g. to any trees or flowers? do you get normally some allergic reactions more in a certain time of year? like spring, summer, or when the olive trees pollute...



    also, what did you have eaten and drinken before that happened? like in the 24 hours before? was there anything uncommon of whatever type where you were, like dust, paint, animals, insects, any medications that you had taken, any chemicals ... ? what was different to normal in any sense before that happened? a large question but it might help to track down some reasons ... good luck on finding the allergens (on a non-lethal way that is).
  • Reply 9 of 19
    sounds like a bad reaction to shellfish. by the way, i'm glad, as i'm sure you are, that your not dead.
  • Reply 10 of 19
    danmacmandanmacman Posts: 773member
    Have you eaten any peanuts lately?
  • Reply 11 of 19
    vandewaalsvandewaals Posts: 450member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NETROMac

    T...... Shells, shellfish, seafood, soya products, wheat, nuts, milk, eggs, and conservatives in food can also cause AS. Bee, wasps, ants and other insects can also cause AS.......



    It's Republicans!!! Soylent Green is Republicans!!!!



    On a more serious note....



    I'd at least get a basic allergy test just to see if anything pops up. As someone noted, they're not 100% reliable. Allergies are weird things...you can be born with a bad food allergy, then have it vanish as you get older. Or it can just show up later in in life. And they can be caused by some odd things. With the popularity of body piercing, a lot of allergies to nickle (the metal, not the coin ) have cropped up. Or allergies to latex (exam gloves in the hospital, ect.). Anyways, good luck with staying shock-free.
  • Reply 12 of 19
    shetlineshetline Posts: 4,695member
    An interesting perspective on the issue of allergies:



    Too Clean For Our Own Good?
  • Reply 13 of 19
    fangornfangorn Posts: 323member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by kraig911

    f***'in allergies. Has this happened to anyone else? my throat closed, hives, couldn't breath...I was in a out-patient clinic for half the day, and I don't know what I was allergic too... so I was just wondering what you all do when/if this happened to you. How do i tell what i had an allergic reaction too?



    What to, beats me. But take Apis (homeopathic). My Nurse Practioner Mother-in-Law swears by it.



    Honestly, I don't have much experience with Allergies although they run rampant through my Mother's side of the family. The only time I get Allergies is when I am stressed. Then the only answer is to take a Benadryl (or two) and unplug for a few hours. It hasn't failed yet.
  • Reply 14 of 19
    shetlineshetline Posts: 4,695member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Fangorn

    What to, beats me. But take Apis (homeopathic). My Nurse Practioner Mother-in-Law swears by it.



    Homeopathy is one of the biggest crocks around. Oh, there might a few treatments that actually work by sheer accident or placebo effect, but the "theory" behind homeopathy is pseudoscientific nonsense.



    As hucksters have known for centuries, you can whip together almost any random ingredients you like, and as long as you're careful enough about your choices that you don't outright sicken or poison someone right away, you will, guaranteed, be able to compile a list of believers in no time. Placebo affect, coupled with people just happening to get better on their own after taking your "medicine" will do it every time.



    Do you realize that many homepathic remedies are so dilute that a standard dosage might not even contain one single molecule of the supposed active ingredient? Homeopathy supports will counter this with ridiculous claims, not supported by a spec of research, that somehow the water used to dilute the medicine "remembers" what had been disolved in it, and this "memory" carries the curative power!
  • Reply 15 of 19
    fangornfangorn Posts: 323member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by shetline

    Homeopathy is one of the biggest crocks around. Oh, there might a few treatments that actually work by sheer accident or placebo effect, but the "theory" behind homeopathy is pseudoscientific nonsense.



    As hucksters have known for centuries, you can whip together almost any random ingredients you like, and as long as you're careful enough about your choices that you don't outright sicken or poison someone right away, you will, guaranteed, be able to compile a list of believers in no time. Placebo affect, coupled with people just happening to get better on their own after taking your "medicine" will do it every time.



    Do you realize that many homepathic remedies are so dilute that a standard dosage might not even contain one single molecule of the supposed active ingredient? Homeopathy supports will counter this with ridiculous claims, not supported by a spec of research, that somehow the water used to dilute the medicine "remembers" what had been disolved in it, and this "memory" carries the curative power!




    Like I said, she is a Nurse Practitioner, i.e., she has a Masters in Nursing; she can write prescriptions, admit people to the hospital, etc. That tends to give her quite a bit of credibility.



    Although, in all honesty, I have not bought the homeopathic remedy thing hook, line and sinker. I've seen it work and I've seen it not work. I tend to go homeopathic when nothing else will work, which tends to be most of the time when you are treating colds and flus. However, if its 3 am and the kid has a cough she just can't beat, I grab the Triminac every time, screw digging for the right remedy.



    And, also like I said, I fight "allergies" with Benadryl myself. I would never go so far as to blame all allergic reactions on stress, but it's certainly the first place I'd look.
  • Reply 16 of 19
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    I've been rushed to hospital ERs on two separate occasions in recent years for some wicked asthmatic/allergic reactions.



    Both times I got rushed past the other people in the waiting room, they slammed an IV in me, gave me some shots of who-knows-what, and pumped oxygen down my nose and throat with some kind of vaporizor.



    Scary shit. The first time I thought I was gonna die too. I guess I might not really have been that close, but my god was it painful.
  • Reply 17 of 19
    rick1138rick1138 Posts: 938member
    Homeopathy is not proven to work at all, I would stay away from it. As far as stress is concerned, it actually may be good for allergies - high stress situations can cause the body to produce noradrenaline, which is a natural antihistamine. Anectodatally a lot of people who are involved in "extreme" sports have a higher incidence of allergies, and participating in dangerous situations helps to keep them under control.
  • Reply 18 of 19
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    My uncle in law is a patented allergologist, he never give homeopathy as therapy. After knowing the origin of allergia he will suggest :

    - the eviction of the allergena

    - desensibilisation (good for bees for example, but under medical control in hospital)

    - antihistaminics, and corticoids nasal spray.



    I don't know a huge allergic person that cure himself with homeopathy. What works best is the long actions corticoids like Kenakort. I took one, per year because it's the only thing who works for me. If you can avoid it, do it, because long lasting corticois have backside effects.
  • Reply 19 of 19
    To avoid the random hospital trips I always read ingredients on everything I eat, ask what's in food and carry Benadryl and an epipen everywhere I go.



    I haven't gone to the hospital recently, not since finding out that I was allergic to hazelnuts on Passover a few years ago. That was not fun, but the rush from the epipen was interesting.



    One of my sisters got rushed to the hospital in an ambulance during school once for a reaction to kiwis.



    Allergies are very bizarre, I've grown out of major allergies to eggs and milk, but kept the allergies to fin-fish and some nuts.
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