As a discussion on the Apple Java Dev list shows, Java is broken on quite a lot of installs (both dirty installs and clean ones).
Apple has appearantly recognized the Problem (see Tech note).
To see if you computer is affected, type "java -version" in the terminal. If you get a message saying "HotSpot not at correct virtual address. Sharing disabled", you are affected.
The build number should be 1.4.1_01_99 - if it is 1.4.1_01_69.1, you are likely affected, too.
Try to run any of the graphs, especially histograms, and see what happens. Does it crash for you too? Cause I can run analyses, but any graphs crash the whole program for me .:-(
I can get graphs, but I've got to click through about 20 warnings of HOOPS errors for each graph. I'll run a histogram and see...
No problems but 36 HOOPS routine warnings. This was on a large data set (20000) observations. So I suspect something went wrong with your install.
Im concerned about any problems M-Audio Revolution owners are experiencing...does the 1.2.7 driver update work fine with Panther? Also a few audio apps:
-Cubase SX 2.0
-Reason 2.5
-pHATmatik Pro
-Absynth 2
-FM7
maybe Logic 6 since I may be getting that soon
Also stuff like VLC, BBEdit, Code Warrior ....
VLC works fine. Also RealOnePlayer, and DivX under VLC 8)
Im concerned about any problems M-Audio Revolution owners are experiencing...does the 1.2.7 driver update work fine with Panther? Also a few audio apps:
-Cubase SX 2.0
-Reason 2.5
-pHATmatik Pro
-Absynth 2
-FM7
maybe Logic 6 since I may be getting that soon
Can't speak for anything else on yr list, but Logic 6 is working great.
I can get graphs, but I've got to click through about 20 warnings of HOOPS errors for each graph. I'll run a histogram and see...
No problems but 36 HOOPS routine warnings. This was on a large data set (20000) observations. So I suspect something went wrong with your install.
Odd, I have installed twice now, with the same prob. I heard someone else was having the crash, too. Rats, HOOPS errors would be better than crashing, i got a email from SPSS tech support saying they have no plans to support Panther anytime soon, no patch, no update, nada...
Odd, I have installed twice now, with the same prob. I heard someone else was having the crash, too. Rats, HOOPS errors would be better than crashing, i got a email from SPSS tech support saying they have no plans to support Panther anytime soon, no patch, no update, nada...
Did SPSS acknowledge a problem with 10.3? I've used it a littel over the last couple of days and have still not had any problems. Again, I'm learning the program coming from good old Statview (rest in peace), so the program has been taxing me rather than the other way around. I've perfromed some t-tests, histrograms and error bar graphs (where are the error bar histograms on this app?).
Did SPSS acknowledge a problem with 10.3? I've used it a littel over the last couple of days and have still not had any problems. Again, I'm learning the program coming from good old Statview (rest in peace), so the program has been taxing me rather than the other way around. I've perfromed some t-tests, histrograms and error bar graphs (where are the error bar histograms on this app?).
They simply said there were no plans to test it on 10.3, so they will not be supporting anyone who has problems who is running it on anything besides 10.1 or 10.2, and had no future plans to update or test it...This was forwarded to me by someone who asked the same question.
SPSS version 11.0.2 has not tested -- and cannot be
certified to run -- on OS X (10.3) of Macintosh. I
apologize for your inconvenience.
At this time I know of no plans to test SPSS 11.0.2
under 10.3. I also know of no plans to create a
patch of any sort for this version combination.
Please check the SPSS website (www.spss.com) for any
Logitech's drivers conflicted with something for me. I'm using the MX700 and Internet Navigator Keyboard on a Dual 800 G4 with an Archive & Install 10.3
They simply said there were no plans to test it (SPSS) on 10.3, so they will not be supporting anyone who has problems who is running it on anything besides 10.1 or 10.2, and had no future plans to update or test it...
I find that hard to believe. I think that was a stock answer and was somewhat poorly worded. The way it sounds is like they are dropping future updates altogether, but I think that conclusion is wrong. Everyone is talking about more Macs coming to the scientific fields. Its hard to imagine that SPSS would just at this time drop future support. Offcourse, if they are not planing on stopping at SPSS 11, then they will have to test on Panther etc.
Either way, I did a little more work on my systems (new Powerbook and G5) and I have had no noticeable problems. My systems are new and I haven't had much opportunity to mess them up yet, so maybe that's why I haven't had any problems with the Panther upgrade.
I find that hard to believe. I think that was a stock answer and was somewhat poorly worded. The way it sounds is like they are dropping future updates altogether, but I think that conclusion is wrong. Everyone is talking about more Macs coming to the scientific fields. Its hard to imagine that SPSS would just at this time drop future support. Offcourse, if they are not planing on stopping at SPSS 11, then they will have to test on Panther etc.
Either way, I did a little more work on my systems (new Powerbook and G5) and I have had no noticeable problems. My systems are new and I haven't had much opportunity to mess them up yet, so maybe that's why I haven't had any problems with the Panther upgrade.
I don't find it hard to believe at all. SPSS has a way of screwing Mac users. 4 years between 6 and 10, then 10 doesn't run in OS X which was released shortly afterwards? Laughable. Then 11 isn't supported in Panther and they have no plans to support it? That's bullshit and I'm not feeling guilty in the least for not buying it. I bought 10 and it worked for all of 2 months. Screw 'em.
bondgirl, I'd recommend deleting your preferences and doing a search for all "SPSS" on your computer and deleting those too (as long as they're not your own data files that you labeled with SPSS or something).
I'm having some serious problems with Panther and several apps. I am running a new Powerbook 15" AI. I installed a fresh copy of panther on a zeroed out drive.
Second, with Microsoft Office v. X . ...
I tried to run the Microfilth updater 10.1.2, but it does can't find the app on my Hard Drive. WTF. How can I update to the newest version, when your instructions explicitly say I need 10.1.2, 10.1.3, and 10.1.4 updates to be installed in order to upgrade to 10.1.5? This is ridiculous.
I'm also having trouble with updating Office to 10.1.2. I have a 700MHz iBook. Erased and installed Panther then installed Office from CD. Put in CD key and tried to update to 10.1.2. After 'Gathering Info...' my system crashed with message from Panther to restart using power cycle.
I know there's a problem with the VISE installer searching network volumes, but I had no network connections at the time. I've tried repairing permissions, using a different downloaded updater in case it was corrupt. Still no luck. Tried removing Office, reinstalling and updating and still doesn't work. This means I can't get my hotmail via Entourage, apart from anything else.
Oddly, though, tried installing and updating on my new 17" 1.25GHz iMac (erase and install of Panther) and was able to update 10.1.2 through to 10.1.5 with no problems at all.
Don't think I'm the only one with problems with VISE installer without network drives present. I'm open to any suggestions...
I'm having troubles too with Logitech drivers. My MX 700 can't use any of its extra buttons. I tried installing the LCC stuff again, but the installer hangs before it can install anything.
I'm also having trouble with updating Office to 10.1.2. I have a 700MHz iBook. Erased and installed Panther then installed Office from CD. Put in CD key and tried to update to 10.1.2. After 'Gathering Info...' my system crashed with message from Panther to restart using power cycle.
I know there's a problem with the VISE installer searching network volumes, but I had no network connections at the time. I've tried repairing permissions, using a different downloaded updater in case it was corrupt. Still no luck. Tried removing Office, reinstalling and updating and still doesn't work. This means I can't get my hotmail via Entourage, apart from anything else.
Oddly, though, tried installing and updating on my new 17" 1.25GHz iMac (erase and install of Panther) and was able to update 10.1.2 through to 10.1.5 with no problems at all.
Don't think I'm the only one with problems with VISE installer without network drives present. I'm open to any suggestions...
sam
I had a similar issue, though it didn't cause a kernel panic (what you described happened on your computer). I eventually got it to work by doing nothing differently. Typical MS. And why the fvck can't they have a combined updater??? Is it that hard?
Anyway, you could just drag the MS Office application folder over to your other computer. That will work just fine to give you a functioning Office v.X system.
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Apple has appearantly recognized the Problem (see Tech note).
To see if you computer is affected, type "java -version" in the terminal. If you get a message saying "HotSpot not at correct virtual address. Sharing disabled", you are affected.
The build number should be 1.4.1_01_99 - if it is 1.4.1_01_69.1, you are likely affected, too.
Originally posted by bondgirl
Try to run any of the graphs, especially histograms, and see what happens. Does it crash for you too? Cause I can run analyses, but any graphs crash the whole program for me .:-(
I can get graphs, but I've got to click through about 20 warnings of HOOPS errors for each graph. I'll run a histogram and see...
No problems but 36 HOOPS routine warnings. This was on a large data set (20000) observations. So I suspect something went wrong with your install.
Originally posted by TigerWoods99
Im concerned about any problems M-Audio Revolution owners are experiencing...does the 1.2.7 driver update work fine with Panther? Also a few audio apps:
-Cubase SX 2.0
-Reason 2.5
-pHATmatik Pro
-Absynth 2
-FM7
maybe Logic 6 since I may be getting that soon
Also stuff like VLC, BBEdit, Code Warrior ....
VLC works fine. Also RealOnePlayer, and DivX under VLC 8)
Originally posted by TigerWoods99
Im concerned about any problems M-Audio Revolution owners are experiencing...does the 1.2.7 driver update work fine with Panther? Also a few audio apps:
-Cubase SX 2.0
-Reason 2.5
-pHATmatik Pro
-Absynth 2
-FM7
maybe Logic 6 since I may be getting that soon
Can't speak for anything else on yr list, but Logic 6 is working great.
Originally posted by pensieve
I can get graphs, but I've got to click through about 20 warnings of HOOPS errors for each graph. I'll run a histogram and see...
No problems but 36 HOOPS routine warnings. This was on a large data set (20000) observations. So I suspect something went wrong with your install.
Odd, I have installed twice now, with the same prob. I heard someone else was having the crash, too. Rats, HOOPS errors would be better than crashing, i got a email from SPSS tech support saying they have no plans to support Panther anytime soon, no patch, no update, nada...
Originally posted by wmf
BitTorrent does not work. The developer is working on it.
I gave it a quick test and it seems to work fine. Not the most recent version (3.3) though.
iTunes seems to pause for 8 secs before launching.
itunes visualizer momentarily stalls when switching to iTunes from another app.
Archive and Install. PB 15" 1ghz SD.
Originally posted by bondgirl
Odd, I have installed twice now, with the same prob. I heard someone else was having the crash, too. Rats, HOOPS errors would be better than crashing, i got a email from SPSS tech support saying they have no plans to support Panther anytime soon, no patch, no update, nada...
Did SPSS acknowledge a problem with 10.3? I've used it a littel over the last couple of days and have still not had any problems. Again, I'm learning the program coming from good old Statview (rest in peace), so the program has been taxing me rather than the other way around. I've perfromed some t-tests, histrograms and error bar graphs (where are the error bar histograms on this app?).
Upgraded to 2.0.6. Now it works perfectly. Remember to look for latest versions people!
ehh... new version fikses the problems
Originally posted by Carson O'Genic
Did SPSS acknowledge a problem with 10.3? I've used it a littel over the last couple of days and have still not had any problems. Again, I'm learning the program coming from good old Statview (rest in peace), so the program has been taxing me rather than the other way around. I've perfromed some t-tests, histrograms and error bar graphs (where are the error bar histograms on this app?).
They simply said there were no plans to test it on 10.3, so they will not be supporting anyone who has problems who is running it on anything besides 10.1 or 10.2, and had no future plans to update or test it...This was forwarded to me by someone who asked the same question.
SPSS version 11.0.2 has not tested -- and cannot be
certified to run -- on OS X (10.3) of Macintosh. I
apologize for your inconvenience.
At this time I know of no plans to test SPSS 11.0.2
under 10.3. I also know of no plans to create a
patch of any sort for this version combination.
Please check the SPSS website (www.spss.com) for any
updates.
Susan - Technical Support Specialist
SPSS Inc.
[email protected]
Tel: +1.312.651.3410
Got a question for SPSS Technical Support? Try SPSS
AnswerNet on the web:
http://support.spss.com/answernet
Originally posted by bondgirl
They simply said there were no plans to test it (SPSS) on 10.3, so they will not be supporting anyone who has problems who is running it on anything besides 10.1 or 10.2, and had no future plans to update or test it...
I find that hard to believe. I think that was a stock answer and was somewhat poorly worded. The way it sounds is like they are dropping future updates altogether, but I think that conclusion is wrong. Everyone is talking about more Macs coming to the scientific fields. Its hard to imagine that SPSS would just at this time drop future support. Offcourse, if they are not planing on stopping at SPSS 11, then they will have to test on Panther etc.
Either way, I did a little more work on my systems (new Powerbook and G5) and I have had no noticeable problems. My systems are new and I haven't had much opportunity to mess them up yet, so maybe that's why I haven't had any problems with the Panther upgrade.
Originally posted by Carson O'Genic
I find that hard to believe. I think that was a stock answer and was somewhat poorly worded. The way it sounds is like they are dropping future updates altogether, but I think that conclusion is wrong. Everyone is talking about more Macs coming to the scientific fields. Its hard to imagine that SPSS would just at this time drop future support. Offcourse, if they are not planing on stopping at SPSS 11, then they will have to test on Panther etc.
Either way, I did a little more work on my systems (new Powerbook and G5) and I have had no noticeable problems. My systems are new and I haven't had much opportunity to mess them up yet, so maybe that's why I haven't had any problems with the Panther upgrade.
I don't find it hard to believe at all. SPSS has a way of screwing Mac users. 4 years between 6 and 10, then 10 doesn't run in OS X which was released shortly afterwards? Laughable. Then 11 isn't supported in Panther and they have no plans to support it? That's bullshit and I'm not feeling guilty in the least for not buying it. I bought 10 and it worked for all of 2 months. Screw 'em.
bondgirl, I'd recommend deleting your preferences and doing a search for all "SPSS" on your computer and deleting those too (as long as they're not your own data files that you labeled with SPSS or something).
Originally posted by feliperal
I'm having some serious problems with Panther and several apps. I am running a new Powerbook 15" AI. I installed a fresh copy of panther on a zeroed out drive.
Second, with Microsoft Office v. X . ...
I tried to run the Microfilth updater 10.1.2, but it does can't find the app on my Hard Drive. WTF. How can I update to the newest version, when your instructions explicitly say I need 10.1.2, 10.1.3, and 10.1.4 updates to be installed in order to upgrade to 10.1.5? This is ridiculous.
I'm also having trouble with updating Office to 10.1.2. I have a 700MHz iBook. Erased and installed Panther then installed Office from CD. Put in CD key and tried to update to 10.1.2. After 'Gathering Info...' my system crashed with message from Panther to restart using power cycle.
I know there's a problem with the VISE installer searching network volumes, but I had no network connections at the time. I've tried repairing permissions, using a different downloaded updater in case it was corrupt. Still no luck. Tried removing Office, reinstalling and updating and still doesn't work. This means I can't get my hotmail via Entourage, apart from anything else.
Oddly, though, tried installing and updating on my new 17" 1.25GHz iMac (erase and install of Panther) and was able to update 10.1.2 through to 10.1.5 with no problems at all.
Don't think I'm the only one with problems with VISE installer without network drives present. I'm open to any suggestions...
sam
Originally posted by sam_c
I'm also having trouble with updating Office to 10.1.2. I have a 700MHz iBook. Erased and installed Panther then installed Office from CD. Put in CD key and tried to update to 10.1.2. After 'Gathering Info...' my system crashed with message from Panther to restart using power cycle.
I know there's a problem with the VISE installer searching network volumes, but I had no network connections at the time. I've tried repairing permissions, using a different downloaded updater in case it was corrupt. Still no luck. Tried removing Office, reinstalling and updating and still doesn't work. This means I can't get my hotmail via Entourage, apart from anything else.
Oddly, though, tried installing and updating on my new 17" 1.25GHz iMac (erase and install of Panther) and was able to update 10.1.2 through to 10.1.5 with no problems at all.
Don't think I'm the only one with problems with VISE installer without network drives present. I'm open to any suggestions...
sam
I had a similar issue, though it didn't cause a kernel panic (what you described happened on your computer). I eventually got it to work by doing nothing differently. Typical MS.
Anyway, you could just drag the MS Office application folder over to your other computer. That will work just fine to give you a functioning Office v.X system.