I think if there was someone to produce a true paperless paper, Apple's the one with the experience (NEWTON, and the new OS X App that recog's hand writing...has anyone messed around with it?)
I dont understand the extreme need for a video pod. Who is gonna buy it? How long can you watch something on such a small screen? My head hurts just thinking about the eye strain. Ouch! I'm imagining being on a plane and trying to focus on a lil screen with so much going on. no thanks. I surly hope they donnot waste the time and energy on such a product. There is other work to be done.
I dont understand the extreme need for a video pod. Who is gonna buy it? How long can you watch something on such a small screen? My head hurts just thinking about the eye strain. Ouch! I'm imagining being on a plane and trying to focus on a lil screen with so much going on. no thanks. I surly hope they donnot waste the time and energy on such a product. There is other work to be done.
I'm with you. I don't see a need. However, I think the idea is, you'd be able to hook it up to any computer or TV so you can take your home movies and TV shows with you anywhere; not necessarily to watch on a tiny screen. But I'm not sure what the interest is. Anybody?
Video iPod could work, depending on what it's used for.
If it's got A/V I/O, then we've got a portable Tivo. That's good.
If they ever get iPhoto's speed up to snuff so it can handle more pictures than iTunes can handle audio files, a portable photo collection along side your portable audio collection would be good.
If it's got bluetooth it could connect to your phone's internet service and you'll have a bigger browser window than you would with your phone. Fun for your commute to work.
It's non-essential stuff, but there are a lot of options. I wouldn't really want one myself but there are reasons to have them.
There is a large potential pro and consumer market for a video/photo iPod with a nice 4 to 6" high quality screen. There are about 12 such devices on the market now with more coming (the Sony being the nicest looking so far). Apple undoubtedly have a design ready to go... its just a matter of timing.
Panasonic are moving to flash video storage in their pro newsgathering product line (P2 system) in 2004.
Video iPod could work, depending on what it's used for.
If it's got A/V I/O, then we've got a portable Tivo. That's good.
If they ever get iPhoto's speed up to snuff so it can handle more pictures than iTunes can handle audio files, a portable photo collection along side your portable audio collection would be good.
This is what I think. iPhoto sync, internal color screen to show photos, slide shows, etc. But enough storage for video, probably output to an external device (TV).
On another note. Apparently there is a growing market for "add-on" storage devices for digital still cameras. Article in the WSJ yesterday about this. These things were running a few hundred dollars. Differing techniques and technologies.
The iPod already stores digital photos although not if you use xD Picture cards like me.
I'd rather look at photos on a larger screen. That's the beauty of digital photography; you don't have to look at tiny 4x6 inch prints.
As for video, I can't see the need to carry video around with you unless you're a pro and then, you'd have your PowerBook.
Apple has a way of making things that didn't make sense, make sense, but I just don't see this a video pod being very popular; especially if it's $749. Why not save and get an iBook instead?
SJ has consistently said that there will be no video iPod. His comments have been published dozens of times.
Well, not sure he has said it "consistently". I've only heard of one time that he commented on the subject. Of course that comment may have been published "dozens of times".
I think the one with the incomplete sentence maybe onto something here.
What if its not a video ipod but an eBook for $749. It would have a 8 to 10 inch screen, a G3 or low end G4 at best.
Basically only capable of basic tasks like word processing, internet browsing, viewing pics, and playing video. and some low intensity gaming like starcraft and solitare. DVD player too.
I think it would steal consumers from the portable dvd market segment and attract consumers that still think $1000 is too much for a laptop but kinda want one.
Ok yes it wood have less features than the current low end iBook but for $749 bucks? It might not be a bad buy
At several of the past analyst meetings the subject of a video iPod has come up. Amazingly SJ didn't say "we don't discuss future products" but instead said he did not see it. The Newsweek article was the first time it was mentioned in print but not the first time he addressed the matter.
I dont understand the extreme need for a video pod. Who is gonna buy it? How long can you watch something on such a small screen? My head hurts just thinking about the eye strain. Ouch! I'm imagining being on a plane and trying to focus on a lil screen with so much going on. no thanks. I surly hope they donnot waste the time and energy on such a product. There is other work to be done.
I've said it before, and I'll now say it again ...
What is the difference between looking at a 4" screen from 2 feet away, and looking at a 13" drop-down CRT screen from 10-12 feet away?
Optimal viewing distance for NTSC/PAL on a 4" screen is 1.6 feet.
Optimal viewing distance for NTSC/PAL on a 13" screen is 4.2 feet.
In close confines you're not always going to be in the seat directly in front of the aircraft monitor (barring the possibility that you're in first class and watching a 6" LCD monitor in the seat-front ahead of you). In this case, you are more likely to have a better experience with your 4" screen vPod.
People need to stop using air travel comparisons. I haven't been on too many flights in the past 6 months that have allowed me to watch a movie without doing some color-correction in my head. I'd much prefer to have a vPod. The fact that I could bypass the typically poor choice of films shown on flights is enough to empty my wallet in Apples direction.
At several of the past analyst meetings the subject of a video iPod has come up. Amazingly SJ didn't say "we don't discuss future products" but instead said he did not see it. The Newsweek article was the first time it was mentioned in print but not the first time he addressed the matter.
I was aware of SJ's remarks and the truth is just I'm wishfully thinking with the vid iPod idea.
Fact is there are a lot of companies developing portable video players of the such. There are several links to them in these forums alone. I believe that the reluctance by Apple to dive into a product like this is mainly due to uncertain risk, and the lack of historical market research, BUT i think once these video players from other manufactures start circulating that play Windows Media Files and mpeg files starts becoming more common and attractive to people, Apple will hopefully come around and create a Video iPod.
Not a product that would demolish the current iPod as others think it might. But a differrent product kind of like what a PowerMac is to an iMac. More expensive, added purpose.
I bet its a sports/outdoor version of an iPod but with 10" OLED Screen (requires bugger all power) mini keypad or perhaps dual jogger/dial and pen with built in mini camera and phone. It will be submersible and everything stainless so I can use it on the boat this summer. Powered with a 90nm G5 using that fangled new controlled clock frequency noise suppression syncronization circuit stuff I read about on El Reg this morning.
An eBook? Oh, I don't know, there comes a point where making a machine smaller doesn't really save you anything (in terms of manufacturing) and also introduces new difficulties. ie, on a 10" eBook, where do we fit an adequate battery, cram in the optical etc etc...
Now if Apple wanted to take one 12" iBook and drive it down market with an older tray loader, slim graphics, RAM, and HDD compliment, possibly even keep that old clunker the G3 around a little bit longer, yeah, hey, why not? Somehow I don't think they will. At 1099, the iBook entry is pretty nice for what you get; though the screen is a little small for most budget buyers, savvy road warriors can still capitalize on this fluke of component costs for a while longer...
As for a camera? I still don't think it's a bad idea. Yes, sometime in Q1-2 '04 other sub 1K DSLR's will join Canon's Digital Rebel and put even more downward pressure on the market, but there's room there for a neat, dead simple (but high quality) hybrid device. Would I spend 749 on a Apple camera when I can get a Digital Rebel for 250 more? Nope, and Sony, Oly, HP, Fuji and others will have to deal with this aswell. First will be Nikon with an APS sized DSLR for 999. Then Fuji and probably Kodak (possibly both with 4/3rds systems)
Then you look at the success of Sony and HP, and you realize that there's lotsa room for P&S cameras, though probably not for 750USD ones, not for long anyway.
hmmm...
A tablet? 749 might be acceptable for a tablet that does NOT replace the notebook, but is very small (A5 size) and acts as a proper tablet. Still too pricey for me, but...
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Originally posted by xXTitaniumXx
...Also a bill gates doll with dark helmet included.
Didn't Bill play Dark Helmet in Space Balls?
"Evil will always triumph over good, because good is dumb."
Originally posted by Gigawire
19" LC?D
Ooooh no, no need for a 19" when there's a 20". Unless of course its a HD, but at that price? Naaah.
My guess: a DJ iPod with two touch wheels, cross fading, a larger screen and maybe two 40 gig discs.
I like that quote. It SEEMS genuine.
I think if there was someone to produce a true paperless paper, Apple's the one with the experience (NEWTON, and the new OS X App that recog's hand writing...has anyone messed around with it?)
Originally posted by sillycybin
I dont understand the extreme need for a video pod. Who is gonna buy it? How long can you watch something on such a small screen? My head hurts just thinking about the eye strain. Ouch! I'm imagining being on a plane and trying to focus on a lil screen with so much going on. no thanks. I surly hope they donnot waste the time and energy on such a product. There is other work to be done.
I'm with you. I don't see a need. However, I think the idea is, you'd be able to hook it up to any computer or TV so you can take your home movies and TV shows with you anywhere; not necessarily to watch on a tiny screen. But I'm not sure what the interest is. Anybody?
If it's got A/V I/O, then we've got a portable Tivo. That's good.
If they ever get iPhoto's speed up to snuff so it can handle more pictures than iTunes can handle audio files, a portable photo collection along side your portable audio collection would be good.
If it's got bluetooth it could connect to your phone's internet service and you'll have a bigger browser window than you would with your phone. Fun for your commute to work.
It's non-essential stuff, but there are a lot of options. I wouldn't really want one myself but there are reasons to have them.
Panasonic are moving to flash video storage in their pro newsgathering product line (P2 system) in 2004.
Originally posted by bunge
Video iPod could work, depending on what it's used for.
If it's got A/V I/O, then we've got a portable Tivo. That's good.
If they ever get iPhoto's speed up to snuff so it can handle more pictures than iTunes can handle audio files, a portable photo collection along side your portable audio collection would be good.
This is what I think. iPhoto sync, internal color screen to show photos, slide shows, etc. But enough storage for video, probably output to an external device (TV).
On another note. Apparently there is a growing market for "add-on" storage devices for digital still cameras. Article in the WSJ yesterday about this. These things were running a few hundred dollars. Differing techniques and technologies.
I'd rather look at photos on a larger screen. That's the beauty of digital photography; you don't have to look at tiny 4x6 inch prints.
As for video, I can't see the need to carry video around with you unless you're a pro and then, you'd have your PowerBook.
Apple has a way of making things that didn't make sense, make sense, but I just don't see this a video pod being very popular; especially if it's $749. Why not save and get an iBook instead?
Originally posted by MacsRGood4U
SJ has consistently said that there will be no video iPod. His comments have been published dozens of times.
Well, not sure he has said it "consistently". I've only heard of one time that he commented on the subject. Of course that comment may have been published "dozens of times".
Originally posted by mcoats23
A new lower priced iBook... eBook maybe?
I think the one with the incomplete sentence maybe onto something here.
What if its not a video ipod but an eBook for $749. It would have a 8 to 10 inch screen, a G3 or low end G4 at best.
Basically only capable of basic tasks like word processing, internet browsing, viewing pics, and playing video. and some low intensity gaming like starcraft and solitare. DVD player too.
I think it would steal consumers from the portable dvd market segment and attract consumers that still think $1000 is too much for a laptop but kinda want one.
Ok yes it wood have less features than the current low end iBook but for $749 bucks? It might not be a bad buy
Originally posted by sillycybin
I dont understand the extreme need for a video pod. Who is gonna buy it? How long can you watch something on such a small screen? My head hurts just thinking about the eye strain. Ouch! I'm imagining being on a plane and trying to focus on a lil screen with so much going on. no thanks. I surly hope they donnot waste the time and energy on such a product. There is other work to be done.
I've said it before, and I'll now say it again ...
What is the difference between looking at a 4" screen from 2 feet away, and looking at a 13" drop-down CRT screen from 10-12 feet away?
Optimal viewing distance for NTSC/PAL on a 4" screen is 1.6 feet.
Optimal viewing distance for NTSC/PAL on a 13" screen is 4.2 feet.
4" screen, 2 feet away = 25% over optimal viewing distance.
13" screen, 11 feet away = 161% over optimal viewing distance.
In close confines you're not always going to be in the seat directly in front of the aircraft monitor (barring the possibility that you're in first class and watching a 6" LCD monitor in the seat-front ahead of you). In this case, you are more likely to have a better experience with your 4" screen vPod.
People need to stop using air travel comparisons. I haven't been on too many flights in the past 6 months that have allowed me to watch a movie without doing some color-correction in my head. I'd much prefer to have a vPod. The fact that I could bypass the typically poor choice of films shown on flights is enough to empty my wallet in Apples direction.
Originally posted by MacsRGood4U
At several of the past analyst meetings the subject of a video iPod has come up. Amazingly SJ didn't say "we don't discuss future products" but instead said he did not see it. The Newsweek article was the first time it was mentioned in print but not the first time he addressed the matter.
I was aware of SJ's remarks and the truth is just I'm wishfully thinking with the vid iPod idea.
Fact is there are a lot of companies developing portable video players of the such. There are several links to them in these forums alone. I believe that the reluctance by Apple to dive into a product like this is mainly due to uncertain risk, and the lack of historical market research, BUT i think once these video players from other manufactures start circulating that play Windows Media Files and mpeg files starts becoming more common and attractive to people, Apple will hopefully come around and create a Video iPod.
Not a product that would demolish the current iPod as others think it might. But a differrent product kind of like what a PowerMac is to an iMac. More expensive, added purpose.
Or perhaps not.
Dobby.
Now if Apple wanted to take one 12" iBook and drive it down market with an older tray loader, slim graphics, RAM, and HDD compliment, possibly even keep that old clunker the G3 around a little bit longer, yeah, hey, why not? Somehow I don't think they will. At 1099, the iBook entry is pretty nice for what you get; though the screen is a little small for most budget buyers, savvy road warriors can still capitalize on this fluke of component costs for a while longer...
As for a camera? I still don't think it's a bad idea. Yes, sometime in Q1-2 '04 other sub 1K DSLR's will join Canon's Digital Rebel and put even more downward pressure on the market, but there's room there for a neat, dead simple (but high quality) hybrid device. Would I spend 749 on a Apple camera when I can get a Digital Rebel for 250 more? Nope, and Sony, Oly, HP, Fuji and others will have to deal with this aswell. First will be Nikon with an APS sized DSLR for 999. Then Fuji and probably Kodak (possibly both with 4/3rds systems)
Then you look at the success of Sony and HP, and you realize that there's lotsa room for P&S cameras, though probably not for 750USD ones, not for long anyway.
hmmm...
A tablet? 749 might be acceptable for a tablet that does NOT replace the notebook, but is very small (A5 size) and acts as a proper tablet. Still too pricey for me, but...
hard to guess, mebbe just BS ?