18-year-old girl in California, prescribed RU486 by Planned Parenthood.
Died.
Rights for women?
Also dead are other persons who have taken numerous other forms of medicine, including aspirin. Many medicines, even common medicines, can cause adverse reactions.
Did this girl have any medical conditions that would make her susceptible to harmful side-effects of the drug?
Was she checked by a physician first before being prescribed it by Planned Parenthood?
Can Planned Parenthood "prescribe" drugs? Doesn't it require a doctor?
Did she use Ru486 properly? She didn't OD did she?
Has an autopsy been performed? Do they know she died from taking the Ru486? Or might it be a coincidence?
I'm not saying we shouldn't be concerned, or turn a blind eye to this situation. If Ru486 is potentially unsafe it should definitely be thoroughly tested and checked. But you haven't really provided enough information to start pointing the finger at those who are pro-choice.
And yes, Planned Parenthood employs (and uses the volunteer services of) real doctors and nurses who prescribe and adminster medications and treatments. [disbelieving sarcasm] I mean, do you think it's staffed by a bunch of unshaven feminazis with degrees in women's studies pushing plastic bags of illegally imported drugs? [/d.s.]
At least she wasn't prescribed U(R)-235. Would've been a much more painful death. And that my friends, is about on-point as saying PP should've known RU486 would kill the girl.
It was a freak reaction. Why the argument to the contrary? Are lots of women all over the western world dying from RU486 ingestion?
War on drugs? What a phony, cynical waste of money, when many potentially lethal substances are advertised on TeeVee.
What does any of that have to do with the war on drugs? There's no need to be intentionally dense about it, even if you're just trying for rhetorical purposes.
Are you going to argue that heroin, cocaine, acid, designer drugs, and a host of other drugs are safe, even as recreational drugs? Perhaps they should be allowed to flow freely into our schools and communities?
Gimme a break, that study deals almost exclusively with the misuse of prescription drugs -- a situation that begins with our idiotic concept of "drug stores" as a sort of one stop convenience store with meds. If over the counter and prescription drugs were sold exclusively through a pharmacy people might take the instructions more seriously rather than self medicate. They might actually ask a pharmacist with their current drug/medical file if what they are taking is safe to have along with other conditions and/or drugs they have.
You might legitimately argue that the drug corporations have an interest in keeping this lax state of affairs where people can self prescribe some potentially dangerous OTC drugs, but I don't think that lessens the neccessity of policing and controlling dangerous street drugs. It certainly doesn't make the war on drugs a joke (not from the distribution angle)
I do question, as I assume you do, the criminalization of people with obvious mental dissorders and medical conditions (drug dependency.)
Still, I think your characterization is completely over the top.
What does any of that have to do with the war on drugs? There's no need to be intentionally dense about it, even if you're just trying for rhetorical purposes.
Are you going to argue that heroin, cocaine, acid, designer drugs, and a host of other drugs are safe, even as recreational drugs? Perhaps they should be allowed to flow freely into our schools and communities?
Gimme a break, that study deals almost exclusively with the misuse of prescription drugs -- a situation that begins with our idiotic concept of "drug stores" as a sort of one stop convenience store with meds. If over the counter and prescription drugs were sold exclusively through a pharmacy people might take the instructions more seriously rather than self medicate. They might actually ask a pharmacist with their current drug/medical file if what they are taking is safe to have along with other conditions and/or drugs they have.
You might legitimately argue that the drug corporations have an interest in keeping this lax state of affairs where people can self prescribe some potentially dangerous OTC drugs, but I don't think that lessens the neccessity of policing and controlling dangerous street drugs. It certainly doesn't make the war on drugs a joke (not from the distribution angle)
I do question, as I assume you do, the criminalization of people with obvious mental dissorders and medical conditions (drug dependency.)
Still, I think your characterization is completely over the top.
I agree with you that I am offtopic here (drug reaction vs drug misuse), but I did wake up with a steaming headache after a halloween party, and I didnt pay attention very closely to the thread. The headache was self-inflicted of course.
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Originally posted by cookies
Just heard on the radio:
18-year-old girl in California, prescribed RU486 by Planned Parenthood.
Died.
Rights for women?
Also dead are other persons who have taken numerous other forms of medicine, including aspirin. Many medicines, even common medicines, can cause adverse reactions.
Was she checked by a physician first before being prescribed it by Planned Parenthood?
Can Planned Parenthood "prescribe" drugs? Doesn't it require a doctor?
Did she use Ru486 properly? She didn't OD did she?
Has an autopsy been performed? Do they know she died from taking the Ru486? Or might it be a coincidence?
I'm not saying we shouldn't be concerned, or turn a blind eye to this situation. If Ru486 is potentially unsafe it should definitely be thoroughly tested and checked. But you haven't really provided enough information to start pointing the finger at those who are pro-choice.
No previous conditions. Dead.
Rights for men to impregnate?
RU486 places the decision making process in the hands of a woman and her healthcare provider where it should be.
nothing is without risk, certainly not progress.
this young woman's death is tragic but not a reason to take away other women's right to control their destiny.
Originally posted by Northgate
There have been numerous Viagra related deaths.
No previous conditions. Dead.
Rights for men to impregnate?
Viagra is dangerous for men who have heart diseases.
It will be interesting to know more info about this case. I will just point it out that even a simple pill can kill.
Pill ---> phlebitis ---> lung embolia ---> death.
Even a peanuts can kill via allergia. Beware of the peanuts
ONE FREAKING CASE PROVES NOTHING! Educate yourself about statistics.
And yes, Planned Parenthood employs (and uses the volunteer services of) real doctors and nurses who prescribe and adminster medications and treatments. [disbelieving sarcasm] I mean, do you think it's staffed by a bunch of unshaven feminazis with degrees in women's studies pushing plastic bags of illegally imported drugs? [/d.s.]
http://www.oralchelation.com/faq/wsj3.htm
War on drugs? What a phony, cynical waste of money, when many potentially lethal substances are advertised on TeeVee.
re RU 486...why single that one out? Just because its used as an emergency contraceptive?
It was a freak reaction. Why the argument to the contrary? Are lots of women all over the western world dying from RU486 ingestion?
Originally posted by sammi jo
One of America's real drug problems:
http://www.oralchelation.com/faq/wsj3.htm
War on drugs? What a phony, cynical waste of money, when many potentially lethal substances are advertised on TeeVee.
What does any of that have to do with the war on drugs? There's no need to be intentionally dense about it, even if you're just trying for rhetorical purposes.
Are you going to argue that heroin, cocaine, acid, designer drugs, and a host of other drugs are safe, even as recreational drugs? Perhaps they should be allowed to flow freely into our schools and communities?
Gimme a break, that study deals almost exclusively with the misuse of prescription drugs -- a situation that begins with our idiotic concept of "drug stores" as a sort of one stop convenience store with meds. If over the counter and prescription drugs were sold exclusively through a pharmacy people might take the instructions more seriously rather than self medicate. They might actually ask a pharmacist with their current drug/medical file if what they are taking is safe to have along with other conditions and/or drugs they have.
You might legitimately argue that the drug corporations have an interest in keeping this lax state of affairs where people can self prescribe some potentially dangerous OTC drugs, but I don't think that lessens the neccessity of policing and controlling dangerous street drugs. It certainly doesn't make the war on drugs a joke (not from the distribution angle)
I do question, as I assume you do, the criminalization of people with obvious mental dissorders and medical conditions (drug dependency.)
Still, I think your characterization is completely over the top.
Originally posted by Matsu
What does any of that have to do with the war on drugs? There's no need to be intentionally dense about it, even if you're just trying for rhetorical purposes.
Are you going to argue that heroin, cocaine, acid, designer drugs, and a host of other drugs are safe, even as recreational drugs? Perhaps they should be allowed to flow freely into our schools and communities?
Gimme a break, that study deals almost exclusively with the misuse of prescription drugs -- a situation that begins with our idiotic concept of "drug stores" as a sort of one stop convenience store with meds. If over the counter and prescription drugs were sold exclusively through a pharmacy people might take the instructions more seriously rather than self medicate. They might actually ask a pharmacist with their current drug/medical file if what they are taking is safe to have along with other conditions and/or drugs they have.
You might legitimately argue that the drug corporations have an interest in keeping this lax state of affairs where people can self prescribe some potentially dangerous OTC drugs, but I don't think that lessens the neccessity of policing and controlling dangerous street drugs. It certainly doesn't make the war on drugs a joke (not from the distribution angle)
I do question, as I assume you do, the criminalization of people with obvious mental dissorders and medical conditions (drug dependency.)
Still, I think your characterization is completely over the top.
I agree with you that I am offtopic here (drug reaction vs drug misuse), but I did wake up with a steaming headache after a halloween party, and I didnt pay attention very closely to the thread. The headache was self-inflicted of course.
Is this anything more than flamebait, cookies, or do you seriously think you have a point here?
Originally posted by cookies
Just heard on the radio:
18-year-old girl in California, prescribed RU486 by Planned Parenthood.
Died.
Rights for women?
Sorry guys. I never even looked back at this post once. It is the first time I've posted in AO. I wasn't trying to flame.
I think that the main issue was that the cause of death was RU-486. Otherwise, the person was healthy.
Of course, by now it has been a month or more since she's died, so her family probably would rather have us not talk about it.
Originally posted by cookies
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Of course, by now it has been a month or more since she's died, so her family probably would rather have us not talk about it.
Yea, and it's been a month or more since this thread was posted in. Why bump it just to say this?
FYI, according to latest studies, 79.22% of statistics are made up on the spot.